Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 69

Thread: Inconsistencies

  1. #1

    Inconsistencies

    just wanted to point one out,i bet there are a LOT of these....


    Q. (By Mr. Kane) Here's a question

    20 that was not asked, Mrs. Ramsey. Did you

    21 dress JonBenet Christmas Day?

    22 A. I can't remember.

    23 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Mrs. Ramsey, do

    24 you know whether or not she changed her

    25 underwear Christmas Day?

    0103

    1 A. I don't know.


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Q. (By Mr. Levin) Did you help

    13 JonBenet get dressed for the Whites'

    14 Christmas Day '96?

    15 A. Yes.

    16 Q. Did you do this by yourself or

    17 did John help you too?

    18 A. No, John did not help me





  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    4,808
    Quote Originally Posted by maya.morgen View Post
    just wanted to point one out,i bet there are a LOT of these....


    Q. (By Mr. Kane) Here's a question

    20 that was not asked, Mrs. Ramsey. Did you

    21 dress JonBenet Christmas Day?

    22 A. I can't remember.

    23 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Mrs. Ramsey, do

    24 you know whether or not she changed her

    25 underwear Christmas Day?

    0103

    1 A. I don't know.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Q. (By Mr. Levin) Did you help

    13 JonBenet get dressed for the Whites'

    14 Christmas Day '96?

    15 A. Yes.

    16 Q. Did you do this by yourself or

    17 did John help you too?

    18 A. No, John did not help me


    Very good Maya. The woman is an out and out liar and whenever she is questioned by anyone representing the police, inevitably, her answers are I don't remember. Is someone really going to forget whether or not they dressed their child before they went out that evening, six hours before she was killed. I would think the mother would miss her child so much that helping her get dressed would be one of those memories that brings tears to her eyes. But Patsy does not remember.


  3. #3
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somewhere In Time
    Posts
    5,838

    Great Catch...

    Yeah, good catch! I wonder though..if the first part that you wrote in blue font...where it says...Christmas Day....maybe he means that MORNING. He really wasn't specific.


  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    5,555
    Either way...it appears they're trying to see if there is an explanation for evidence from JR found on JB.Whether this was before his fiber evidence came in or not, I don't know.
    But do keep in mind,the R's book DOI came out right before ST's JonBenet did.In it,JR was already trying to account for his underwear fibers beside JB's bed,near the phone where they dialed 911,as well as his prints on the walk-in fridge and night vision goggles (and the broken window too,of course).Not knowing what Thomas's book was going to say,it appears he was trying to cover a few bases before the fact.
    The only thing I recall that stood out to me in Thomas' book,as far as that type of evidence goes, was something about several spots being found on the carpet near JB's bed,but what exactly what the spots were was never revealed.
    In PMPT,it is said that JB's body was 'tented' and covered with a super-glue type substance in an attempt to find prints on her.Only one was found,and who's it was wasn't ever revealed,as far as I know.


  5. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    In the Federal Witness Protection Program
    Posts
    7,990
    I had read both of those things before- that a print had been found by the coroner and he chose not to include it in his notes. Hmmm.
    And that there was something found on the rug in JBR's bedroom, and a piece of the rug was removed. I had read it was urine. I also think I recall that urine was found on the carpet outside the wineceller door. Anyone else remember this?
    THIS time, we get it RIGHT!

    This post is my constitutionally-protected opinion. Please do not copy or take it anywhere else.


  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somewhere In Time
    Posts
    5,838
    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee249 View Post
    I had read both of those things before- that a print had been found by the coroner and he chose not to include it in his notes. Hmmm.
    And that there was something found on the rug in JBR's bedroom, and a piece of the rug was removed. I had read it was urine. I also think I recall that urine was found on the carpet outside the wineceller door. Anyone else remember this?
    I read somewhere that Patsy "pretended" to vomit (from being so "upset") on the carpet the morning that JB was "missing". But, later...the vomit was tested and that it was old...and that Patsy was trying to make it look like it was hers, from that morning. I think that is a load of bull though, because the pineapple wouldn't have been in JB's stomach, if it had of been HER that vomited, and I can't think of anyone elses that Patsy would have tried to cover up.


  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee249 View Post
    I had read both of those things before- that a print had been found by the coroner and he chose not to include it in his notes. Hmmm.
    And that there was something found on the rug in JBR's bedroom, and a piece of the rug was removed. I had read it was urine. I also think I recall that urine was found on the carpet outside the wineceller door. Anyone else remember this?
    i remember reading that a piece of rug was cut and removed but i don't remember hearing what was found on it...


  8. #8
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    1,594
    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    I read somewhere that Patsy "pretended" to vomit (from being so "upset") on the carpet the morning that JB was "missing". But, later...the vomit was tested and that it was old...and that Patsy was trying to make it look like it was hers, from that morning. I think that is a load of bull though, because the pineapple wouldn't have been in JB's stomach, if it had of been HER that vomited, and I can't think of anyone elses that Patsy would have tried to cover up.
    I don't recall hearing any of that. I remember JR saying in an interview sarcastically that Patsy was accused of not being upset so she must've forced herself to vomit that morning. I haven't heard any of the other stuff. Is there a book out there somewhere that I haven't read or something? Ames you are a wealth of information on this case but I'm kind of at a loss about where you get some of this stuff. Please share!!!(Especially if it's a book!)lol!


  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    1,594
    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee249 View Post
    I had read both of those things before- that a print had been found by the coroner and he chose not to include it in his notes. Hmmm.
    And that there was something found on the rug in JBR's bedroom, and a piece of the rug was removed. I had read it was urine. I also think I recall that urine was found on the carpet outside the wineceller door. Anyone else remember this?
    Yes I have also read that urine was found on the rug outside the winecellar door. Isn't that why they thought that's where she was strangled? That and pieces of the carpeting on her face or something.


  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    1,594
    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    Yeah, good catch! I wonder though..if the first part that you wrote in blue font...where it says...Christmas Day....maybe he means that MORNING. He really wasn't specific.
    JB didn't get dressed to go to the Whites until later in the day, in the afternoon. I guess that's why he said "day".


  11. #11
    i'm sorry but this is ABSURD:

    from DOI

    "Both of us race to Burke's room at the far end of the second floor and find him apparently still sleep. Best not to arouse him until we figure out what's happening here, I think. He's better off asleep for now. I step into the hall."
    in THAT situation you don't wake him up IMMEDIATELY to ask him if he knows something???????????

    this is unbelievable......i'll NEVER buy this.....


  12. #12
    http://crimemagazine.com/solvingjbr-main.htm


    In the course of the interview with Patsy Ramsey, prosecutors asserted that investigators had found:
    • Fibers on the sticky side of the duct tape John Ramsey removed from his daughter's mouth when he says he discovered her body in the basement wine cellar that are "identical" to fibers in the red sweater-jacket Patsy was photographed wearing at a Christmas dinner at a friends' house the previous day.
    • Fibers from the same type of jacket in the paint tray from which a brush was taken that was used to help fashion the ligature found around JonBenet's neck.
    • Fibers from the same type of jacket "tied into" the ligature.
    • Fibers from the same type of black wool shirt made in Israel that John Ramsey wore to the Christmas dinner "in" the panties JonBenet was wearing when she found and in her "crotch area."

    THE PANTIES - John Ramsey told investigator Smit in his 1998 interview that while he had carried a sleeping JonBenet to bed after the family returned from their Christmas Day outing, he did not undress her. Patsy did. Patsy confirmed that. There is, therefore, no obvious way to explain why fibers from the type of shirt John was wearing when he says he put her to bed were found in her underpants and "crotch area."


  13. #13
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    6,998
    Quote Originally Posted by maya.morgen View Post
    maya.morgen,
    Compelling list of evidence.

    THE PANTIES - John Ramsey told investigator Smit in his 1998 interview that while he had carried a sleeping JonBenet to bed after the family returned from their Christmas Day outing, he did not undress her. Patsy did. Patsy confirmed that. There is, therefore, no obvious way to explain why fibers from the type of shirt John was wearing when he says he put her to bed were found in her underpants and "crotch area."
    Well there is in that John's shirt came in contact with a naked JonBenet, go figure?


    .


  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    5,555
    As far as I know,the spots on the carpet pieces that were taken from near JB's bed have never been revealed as to what they were.


  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Somewhere In Time
    Posts
    5,838
    Quote Originally Posted by trixie View Post
    I don't recall hearing any of that. I remember JR saying in an interview sarcastically that Patsy was accused of not being upset so she must've forced herself to vomit that morning. I haven't heard any of the other stuff. Is there a book out there somewhere that I haven't read or something? Ames you are a wealth of information on this case but I'm kind of at a loss about where you get some of this stuff. Please share!!!(Especially if it's a book!)lol!
    LOL...I haven't mentioned the vomiting before, because I couldn't remember where I had read it. It may or may not be true....who knows. There are alot of untrue things about this case, out there floating around. I do not remember the source...I just remember reading it a few years ago. I do know that it wasn't in a book....so, probably something on the internet.


Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •