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  1. #1
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    CA - Kern Co., Fem HC497, 20-25, under concrete floor of foundry, May'73

    Unidentified Unknown Race Female
    The victim was discovered on May 3, 1973 in Kern County, California
    Estimated Date of Death: circa 1948 25 years
    State of Remains: Skeletal

    Vital Statistics
    Estimated age: 20-25 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'153
    Dentals: Available Would have had prominent buck teeth.
    Fingerprints: Not availble.
    DNA: Not availble.

    Case History
    The victim was found buried 30 inches under concrete floor of a foundry in Kern County, California on May 3, 1973. Authorities believe that the body had been buried approximately 25 years.

    Investigators
    If you have any information about this case please contact:

    Bakersfield Police Department
    Kern County Coroner
    661-326-380

    You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

    Agency Case Numbers:
    Sheriff Case - # 073 H11935
    Coroner Case # H11935
    NCIC Number: U-77260062

    Please refer to these numbers when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

    Source Information:

    The Doe Network: Hot Case 497

    LINK:

    http://www.doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase497.html
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-28-2013 at 01:31 AM.

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    Bumping case up. This Jane Doe was probably killed way back in 1948. Does anyone have more information?

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    Wow, coming up on 70 years without an ID.

    What about Frances Groves? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/17377/0/
    Height fits, and her teeth look prominent to me, but her age is off and the year is wrong. But they said year was estimated and Kern and Riverside counties are within daytrip distance, depending on which part of the county.

    Another possibility: Bertha Smith of Maricopa County, Arizona.
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/ca...=circumstances
    Wrote a mysterious letter to her family and disappeared in 1944. Height fits, she seems to have buckteeth, and her age is closer than Frances. Not too close, but within a reasonable range.

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    Here are two others from the 1940s, a bit closer to the estimated age range:

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1762dfca.html -- appears to have an overbite

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3228dfaz.html -- said to be traveling to CA

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    Has Hodel seen this?
    This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.


    Stan Reid

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    Patricia Crandall: Age (18 - 19) is one year off, height (5'3) is within range, timing (disappeared March 1949) is consistent.
    Shasta County is 466 miles from Kern County, but it says that Patricia was last seen with a black suitcase so it's possible she was going on a trip when she disappeared.

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    Patricia Crandall and especially Lorraine Chance both seem like really good potential matches.

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    A while back I started a thread on Stella May Horrell. A relative of hers commented on the thread but I have not heard anything since.
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...hlight=horrell

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    I have submitted Lorraine Judith Chance to Doe Network as a potential match for this UID.
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._lorraine.html

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    Rocky Wells says this potential match has already been reported to LE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by STANDREID View Post
    Has Hodel seen this?
    Are you thinking it could be one of his father's victims, Stan?
    "Fall down seven times, get up eight."

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    Bump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PricklyPear View Post
    Wow, coming up on 70 years without an ID.

    What about Frances Groves? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/17377/0/
    Height fits, and her teeth look prominent to me, but her age is off and the year is wrong. But they said year was estimated and Kern and Riverside counties are within daytrip distance, depending on which part of the county.

    Another possibility: Bertha Smith of Maricopa County, Arizona.
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/ca...=circumstances
    Wrote a mysterious letter to her family and disappeared in 1944. Height fits, she seems to have buckteeth, and her age is closer than Frances. Not too close, but within a reasonable range.
    Think Frances is too much of a stretch, age-wise. Bertha could be a fit but not sure how they'd match them because Jane Doe only has dentals available and Bertha doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogperson View Post
    I have submitted Lorraine Judith Chance to Doe Network as a potential match for this UID.
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._lorraine.html
    I think Lorraine's teeth look too straight to be "buck teeth" like JD is described as having -- her teeth are large but they're in line with the others, the front teeth don't protrude.



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