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  1. #1
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    Dec 2003

    Flds - Follow The Money

    Where do the funds come from that fund the approximately 10,000 FLDS members?
    Federal Contracts, Construction contracts within the state of Nevada, Utah, Arizona, investments, tithing
    and....your tax dollars.

    THE FLDS EMPIRE "The then-prophet, Leroy "Uncle Roy" Johnson, reigned over an empire that now
    includes interests in construction, real estate, hotels and restaurants, banking, and Bolivian Tin

    Jon Krakauer, author wrote in his book "Under the Banner of Heaven" that fundamentalist leaders in Colorado
    City view the whole process as "creative budgeting." He says that they regard it as a "virtuous act."

    Flora Jessop: ""They are told to go on welfare. It's called 'bleeding the beast' and they find it amusing that
    Satan is supporting God's work."

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    Apr 2005
    I understand from a post somewhere FLDS made contributions to some politicians which would have quelled some serious questioning, IMO. is this so?

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    Dec 2003

    Welfare & Benefits

    US Welfare & Benefits - Utah & AZ

    1. Food stamps
    2. Housing assistance
    3. Medical assistance
    4. Eyeglasses
    5. Dental assistance
    6. Fuel assistance
    7. babysitting assistance

    Being responsible for the temporal needs of the members of the UEP, Bishop Fred Jessop encouraged anyone who was
    eligible to take advantage of government assistance in the form of welfare and the WIC (woman-infant-child) programs.
    Reportedly in 2003, "thirty-three percent of the town's residents receive food stamps compared to the state
    average of 4.7 percent"
    resulting in more than $6 million a year in public funds being funneled into the community
    of Colorado City, Arizona.

    "This subsidy is destined to rapidly expand. With each passing year, as the FLDS population grows, the cost to state
    taxpayers rises. In addition to the $6 million going to FLDS-controlled governments, Arizona is footing the bill for
    health care in Colorado City. Nearly everyone in the area receives state-managed health-care benefits, costing
    taxpayers another $8 million annually."

    "Taxpayers are also feeding the huge families resulting from polygamous marriages. More than half the population on the
    Arizona side of the area receives food stamps, worth more than $2 million a year. Another $500,000 a year goes
    to help pay for child care.

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    Dec 2003

    Men have jobs & their women are on welfare

    Question: Laurie, are the residents of Colorado City actually exempt somehow from state rules for public education?

    Laurie Allen: They are, and the state exempts them from just about everything. They don't enforce the
    law in that town. For example, in Phoenix, if a woman goes on welfare, she has to name the father of her child,
    and there are many other things she has to do. In Colorado City, they don't have to - they just give them the money.
    In Salt Lake City, if a mother is on welfare, she has to have her kids in school, getting a proper education.

    That's not the case in Colorado City - they just give them the money. We know that approximately $30 million in
    taxpayer money goes to support the FLDS alone. And most of the men have jobs in that town, and they don't report
    the income.
    They call it "bleeding the beast" - take all the money from the taxpayers and give it to the prophet.
    That's what they're taught. And it was the same in the LeBaron sect - they didn't have welfare in Mexico, but many
    would be stateside and sending the money to Mexico.

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    Dec 2003

    33% vs state averages

    Note: The source for this article was "Polygamy on the Dole: Welfare aids the illegal lifestyle of many families in Utah-Arizona
    border community" Salt Lake Tribune/June 28, 1998, By Tom Zoellner

    Welfare is often how polygamist communities like Hildale in Utah and Colorado City in Arizona substantially support themselves.
    Polygamists often use food stamps to feed their families. Former polygamist Benjamin Bisline said, "If it wasn't for government
    subsidies, these people couldn't survive. There are people here with 15 wives on welfare.

    Colorado City and Hildale were on a list of the top ten towns with a population over 2,000 in the Intermountain West for
    reliance upon Medicaid (health care for the poor) in 1998. And in that same year the same towns draw from the Women,
    Infants and Children (WIC) program (food for low-income mothers) could only be equaled by Western Indian reservations
    and impoverished inner cities. 33% of Hildale and Colorado City residents were using food stamps in 1998. To put this
    into perspective, respectively Arizona's average was 6.7% and Utah's 4.7% during that same period.

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    Dec 2003
    Less Hildale households receive food stamps than many Utah towns. However, more aid comes to Hildale as a community because
    of the number of children that live in each household. During one month in 1997 35 households received a total of $22,375 for
    393 people
    , while another Utah town Parowan, got half that amount for 165 residents. The largest household in Parowan was seven members, while Hildale recorded a household of 37 people receiving food stamps.

    According to federal paperwork, Colorado City is filled largely with unwed mothers without any visible spousal support.
    Polygamous women are treated as single mothers. "In terms of food-stamp eligibility, she's not in a recognized marriage situation,
    and she'd be considered a single mom with kids,'' said Mason Bishop, spokesman for the Utah Department of Workforce Services.

    According to Arizona records the Cooperative Mercantile Exchange, the one grocery store in Colorado City, collected $26,466
    from the WIC food program in December 1997
    . Hildale has its own WIC office rented to the government for $400 a month in
    1998. In an affidavit Hildale's town attorney stated, "There is a large amount of foot traffic in and out of [the WIC] office.''

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    Dec 2003

    Federal Housing Grants


    Hildale received $405,006 from federal housing grants to remodel 19 homes on FLDS land.

    Trailers are parked next to mansions. Half the place seems to be under construction. This is because the FLDS dislikes mortgages.
    Nobody can get financing for a house, so homes are built when money is available.

    Public money was used to remodel 19 homes according to Utah state records. People who received this money were
    picked by Hildale city officials
    . FLDS leader Fred Jessop approved each one according to court records.

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    Dec 2003

    Canadian Welfare & Benefits


    Since the celestial wives of Bountiful are not legally married by the government, they all register as single mothers and
    receive the child tax credit. Moreover, American girls shipped to Canada apply to immigrate here based on Section 25(1)
    of the Immigration and Refugee Act which allows females who give birth here to become permanent residents.

    Then they are eligible for health care, daycare subsidies, welfare, Canada Pension, Old Age pension, Canada child tax
    benefit and the BC family bonus

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    Dec 2003

    Arizona AHCCCS


    Multiple wives, who were married in church, but not in the eyes of the law, began applying for state assistance. Food Stamps
    and Federal programs like WIC, which provide nutritional assistance to low-income women and children, were also tapped.
    So were healthcare dollars through Arizona's AHCCCS program, which provides most of the medical insurance for
    residents in Colorado City AZ. Last year over 4,000 residents were enrolled, reportedly costing the state about $8 million
    a year.

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    Dec 2003
    Mayor Barlow

    He conceded though that welfare payments made polygamist life better for FLDS families. But he felt those receiving benefits
    from the WIC program are actually doing "the thing that Americans do." Barlow claimed the community could get along without welfare if it had to. "We would survive, but we wouldn't survive at the level we are now. Like the rest of America, if it weren't
    for the aid of the government, many people would be at a lower lifestyle," he said. Unemployment though is almost zero in both Hildale and Colorado City, according to U.S. Census records. So why do 33% need food stamps? Barlow said this is because they "don't have high-paying jobs.''

    MOLLY SAYS:Not everyone else in America is collecting benefits, and a huge majority don't have high paying jobs.

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    Dec 2003

    Flds Property

    Yearning for Zion Ranch


    San Angelo Standard, Texas/June 24, 2006 By Matt Phinney

    "The group has faithfully paid its property taxes since buying the land, and this year's note should be the biggest yet.

    The massive building was appraised for the first time this year and stands at a preliminary value of about $8 million.
    The entire YFZ Ranch north of Eldorado, where the building is located, has an assessed value of nearly
    $18 million
    , according to preliminary numbers by Schleicher County Appraiser Scott Sutton.

    If the numbers at the YFZ ranch stand, the group's tax bill would be about $450,000. The sect paid about $200,000 last
    year. All entities in Schleicher County offer an incentive for taxpayers to pay early. They get a 3-percent discount if the
    bill is paid in October, 2 percent in November and 1 percent in December. The YFZ Ranch paid its taxes in October last
    year, and in December in 2004 when it purchased the land, Sutton said.

    According to the state tax code, property owned by religious organizations may qualify for a property-tax exemption
    if the organization files for an exemption and shows it qualifies for the discount. Eligible property includes places of
    worship and residences of clergy, according to the code.

    Sutton said the group has never filed for an exemption.

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    Dec 2003

    Working & receiving Welfare


    Colorado City had one radio station in 1998, KCAA. A program "In the Spotlight,'' is hosted by Tom Barlow. He often criticizes
    the federal government. On one show he blasted the "welfare state" and national debt. But Barlow, a trucker, admits
    to taking welfare to support his family and sees no contradiction.

    "This society we're in has got us in a trap,'' he said. He claims, "The dependence we have on such things as hydroelectric
    power and fossil fuels has got people in a situation where it's about impossible to raise families without government help.
    We're in a trap because we have to obey a lot of stupid laws from the state of Utah and federal government.''

    The radio station itself actually sits on FLDS land and received $445,00 from the "Colorado City Improvement Association"
    (president and trustee is FLDS Presiding Bishop Jessop)
    to build and operate.

  13. #13
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    Dec 2003
    Quote Originally Posted by Floh View Post
    I understand — from a post somewhere — FLDS made contributions to some politicians which would have quelled some serious questioning, IMO. is this so?
    Floh, the 10,000 members vote as their prophet or leaders want them to. It's been rumored that they've voted for Orrin Hatch,
    who has claimed to have friends in Hilldale and has not seen any abuse.. If I can find that article again I will post it.

  14. #14
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    Dec 2003

    Another town controlled essentially by one religion was denied services and public money.
    This was the Oregon City of Rajneeshpuram, run by cult leader Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, a "guru" from India.
    A federal judge ruled in 1984 that allowing the community to incorporate would amount to promotion
    of a specific religion
    . However, Hildale was chartered before that ruling.

    Yet in 1985, a year after the Rajneeshpuram decision in federal court, Arizona allowed Colorado City to
    incorporate anyway, which made the town eligible to receive state and federal grants.

    Since then it has received over $1.8 million from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development to pave
    streets, upgrade fire equipment and build a water-storage tank. Hildale got $94,000 for its fire station. And the
    government-financed airport on the edge of Colorado City cost $2.8 million.

    MOLLY says: That's the one many in the FLDS considered as Jeff's private airport.

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    Dec 2003

    Jeffs, who succeeded Leroy Johnson in 1986 is credited with the financial acumen that brought the FLDS into a new,
    modern era. Janet Johansen said, "He knew of all the breaks available and how to get around regulations and all the
    loopholes. Rulon Jeffs is the one who moved the group in that direction. He's the money man.''

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