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  1. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty@Commcraft.net View Post
    Sinsiniwa is an old Chippewa name for "Grave" or final resting place

    All the killings happened in what was the old Chippewa nations territory

    There was a great deal of unrest starting in the late 90"s over the tribes rights to land taken from them in the last century over failure to pay taxes.
    About the time they believe the killings started

    To step away from fact and into theory one could ask who a desinfranchised native american youth group may percieve as the guilty parties for thier present state . One can only answer the " The White Man", but to take it further ask the poor white man or the one with what appears to be all the advantages? and the final step ask. A christian man or A DECANDENT MAN?

    On a sidebar Chippewa custom calls for a dead body to be dry to cross to the other side.

    Just a thought.
    Welcome to WS Rusty! Wonderful post.

    I had not known that these were all in Chippewa lands. That is interesting. I also thought that Sinsinawa meant home of the spirit or rest of the spirit.
    This all certainly fits in well here with our puzzling case.

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    Welcome Rusty to WS.....

    I have heard of that before / my Gr Grandmother was supposed to inherit massive amounts as was each of her offspring. When all was said & done the NA who were entitled to inherit it never had enough Chippewa blood in them. Plus they had to pay the taxes as you say the amounts of money was "massive". So once again the US beat the Native Americans out of it. My Dad passed away 9 yrs ago & I still have his Chippewa tribal cards.My Dads generation was the last one who could of collected off the land.

    Many Native Americans rely on money from the casinos but must live on the reservations in order to collect any money.

    What you say is totally true....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty@Commcraft.net View Post
    Sinsiniwa is an old Chippewa name for "Grave" or final resting place

    All the killings happened in what was the old Chippewa nations territory

    There was a great deal of unrest starting in the late 90"s over the tribes rights to land taken from them in the last century over failure to pay taxes.
    About the time they believe the killings started

    To step away from fact and into theory one could ask who a desinfranchised native american youth group may percieve as the guilty parties for thier present state . One can only answer the " The White Man", but to take it further ask the poor white man or the one with what appears to be all the advantages? and the final step ask. A christian man or A DECANDENT MAN?

    On a sidebar Chippewa custom calls for a dead body to be dry to cross to the other side.

    Just a thought.
    Wow. That is incredible Rusty, and welcome to WS. Please expand if you would - do you believe there could be a connection between the deaths and the Chippewa nation? How does the drinking/decadence fit in? I know around here, I have often heard Native American activists attribute their people's propensity for alcohol abuse to the white man's plying them with alcohol way back when, as well. Facinating thoughts.

    TIA.

    Eve

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    Hey Rusty..are you out there?

    Please post again soon!

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    The killers could have knowledge of what sinsiniwa means "resting place" or "grave" and Sinsiniwa is only the name of the street where the one young man went missing from. I wonder what the nicknames left near it were. It sounds foolish to write a tag name on the wall, then to write them in more than one location. Anything is possible, i highly doubt it is an organized group of First Nation Peoples doing this. Whoever the killers are, my guess is that they look white in appearance (they have to be able to blend into the bars where their victims have attended). So if they were really tan amidst a group of white people, they may stand out. Whoever is doing these killings is able to go in and out of bars without anyone remembering a "strange" or "different" individual being there on the nights these men went missing. The government and first settlers have been disrespectful to different tribes since 1492 and onward.
    There are so many different theories that could be the case with this. It could be a group of mad women, also.

    In any case "Sinsiniwa" was written as foreshadowing as to where a death would occur. It is more concrete evidence than just smiley faces being spray painted. The drawings appear to be crudely done, obviously by someone who is in a hurry and has no experience in graffiti art. Also they are a common thing that youth may spray paint onto things. The fact that "Sinsiniwa" was found is the link between the murders that we are aware of.

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    I must have missed something. Was "Sinsiniwa" found at more than one location?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peculiar Petunia View Post
    I must have missed something. Was "Sinsiniwa" found at more than one location?
    I think it was written at one location and then a victim was last seen on a street by that name in another town (Dubuque IIRC).

    Eve

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    I was interested in the sinsiniwa connection and I went to a site marked sinsiniwa. It was terribly freaky. Really, Really creepy. Has anybody been? Wah, I'm sleeping with a light on tonight.
    Last edited by grandmakin; 10-15-2009 at 01:16 AM.

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    I don't know if this has been posted on this site before or not, but a clue was left in Duluth, a poem title "A Curse on the Men in Washington" by Gary Snyder. Here is a line from that poem

    "So surely I hunt the white man down...I won't let him live. The 'American' I'll destroy. The 'Christian' has long been dead...their own naked bodies, swimming...As I kill the white man the 'American' in me...To trample your throat in your dreams. This magic I work, this loving I give That my children may flourish And yours won't live."

    Got it off this website that has information about the drowning cases in Duluth, MN

    http://surfdete.ipower.com/duluth.html

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    So could we possibly be looking at a perpetrator of Native American descent seeking to "right" some wrongs?
    Some people do crossword puzzles or Soduko in their spare time...I look at skeletal reconstructions and work on UID puzzles. I swear I'm not this morbid in person!

    Help Fred Murray find his daughter and bring her home. He should not be walking those woods alone!
    What Happened to Maura Murray? http://www.mauramurraymissing.com


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    would anyone like to hear my take on the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingindubuque View Post
    would anyone like to hear my take on the case?

    Please share your opinions about this case.

    Thnx!
    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lookingindubuque View Post
    would anyone like to hear my take on the case?
    yes.
    five characters

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    How does Sinsinawa fit in???? Well I will tell you.... -you need to contact Edward Potts. He has the answer. This is a theme that israel keyes said they did on holidays having to to with jesus. They already killed Christiansen and Jared Dion on Good Friday. They also killed Matt Ryan later in the same month as Dion. As you know from bible school Jesus died on the cross for mans sin. Dion and christiansen were Good Friday victims. Kruziki last seen alive before Christmas. jared Dion was a Lacrosse victim and lacrosse means the cross. Matt Ryan was a Biddeford maine victim..notice Di-on and died for in Biddeford-die on the cross and I died for man are in consecutive letters.

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