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    It's the coldest of cold cases, and yet it keeps warming to life. Seventy years after Amelia Earhart disappeared, clues are still turning up. Long-dismissed notes taken of a shortwave distress call beginning, "This is Amelia Earhart...," are getting another look.

    The previously unknown diary of an Associated Press reporter reveals a new perspective.

    A team that has already found aircraft parts and pieces of a woman's shoe on a remote South Pacific atoll hopes to return there this year to search for more evidence, maybe even DNA.

    If what's known now had been conveyed to searchers then, might Earhart and her navigator have been found alive? It's one of a thousand questions that keep the case from being declared dead, as Earhart herself was a year and a half after she vanished.

    The extraordinary new info is at this link:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070331/ap_on_re_us/search_for_amelia



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    What an amazing story. I have been captivated by the disappearance since I was a little girl. Thanks for this.


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    I read the article in the newspaper a day or so ago and was very intrigued. I came away with the impression that had people been aware that Amelia was truly lost, a more intensive search might have been conducted in the area where she last reported being.

    The article mentions the heel from a (possible man's) shoe was found, as well as an woman's entire shoe. Since this is an island where the natives did not wear shoes, it is intriguing to speculate where these items came from.

    I think someday this mystery will be solved once and for all.


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    Amelia Earhart, 39, 1937

    I have searched this site for a thread on Amelia Earhart and cannot find one. I find this hard to believe! Earhart's disappearence is the most famous cold case and tantalizing missing persons case in history and I thought for sure I would find a thread about her.
    It is possible she just crashed but there is a lot of theory's that she went down in the Marshall Islands and was captured by the Japanese and even speculation she was on a special top secret mission under FDR to 'crash' in the Marshall Islands and gather info. 2 teens with transistor radio insist they heard Amelia's distress calls the day after she disappeared. One of those people was still alive when the below article was written and she still insist on what she heard. At the time she had written it down in a note book and her father contacted the Coast Guard. Considering some of the artifacts that have been found on Gardner Island it seems plausible they crashed but survived for awhile.
    As far fetched as some of these theories may get I find her disappearence fascinating.
    Please point me in the direction of a thread about her on here if there is one and I shall delete this.

    http://www.ameliaearhart.com/home.php

    http://www.tighar.org/Projects/Earhart/AEoverview.html

    http://www.livescience.com/history/0...p_earhart.html

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    I am so glad you started this!!!!

    i will dive in to discussion as soon as I have finished packing and moving, lol...


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    I've always been fascinated about Emilia's disappearance, would love to know what really became of her.


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    tighar.org is the best resource for Amelia. They have spent years, including visits, to possible sources of her disappearance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trino View Post
    tighar.org is the best resource for Amelia. They have spent years, including visits, to possible sources of her disappearance.
    I am going to check out that site.


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    Wow, so there really wasn't a thread for Amelia. I thought for sure someone would be like, old news here's the thread.

    tighar.org has a TON of information. Very interesting.

    The History Channel had a special on about her disappearence over the weekend which is what re-sparked my interest. I am excited to hear people's theories and sources of information. Can't spend much time right now - American Idol is on!
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    Not much discussion from me. I've followed tighar.org for years, and I think they've been serious in all their searches and are "right on" with theories about Nikumaroro. I note that tighar has changed it's format a bit, allowing people to discuss ideas.

    One thing that surprised me, however, from what I've read about Amelia is that she may not have been the best woman flier but the publicity generated by her husband made it seem so.


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    I am so glad someone started this. I just wrote an englsih paper on her. i have always wanted to know what really happened to her since I was a kid.


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    I also tend to go with the Nikumaroro theory. The discovery's they have found there are pretty convincing. In 2007, TIGHAR went back and found a lighter, a zipper and snaps, and most intriguing an AMERICAN pocket knife.
    The cover-up, sealed documents, etc that ensued suggest to me not some top secret mission but rather the Coast Guard trying to protect themselves from the mistakes which were made that day. The incidences of mis-communication are amazing. The Itasca broadcasting on the wrong frequency, using morse code when Amelia made it clear she didn't know morse code, etc.
    Eventhough I find Nikumaroro the most compelling I can't ignore the 'eye-witness' accounts that came out of the Marshall Island, Saipan and other locales in Japan. As we know, eye-witness accounts are not the most reliable but these people obviously saw people they believed could be Earhart and Noonan. They can't all be lying. But, of course, they could all be mistaken.
    Is it possible they landed at Nikumaroro, were there for a few days and then picked up by the Japanese? I know Niku was Britain's territory and it seems a little out of the way but......
    From http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...cy/q0299.shtml - much longer article but I have just included the part about them possibly being taken prisoner.

    Other evidence that Earhart and Noonan ended up as Japanese prisoners comes from residents of various islands administered by Japan and US servicemen who served in the Pacific during the war. Many researchers have maintained that if Earhart could not find Howland Island, a contingency plan was to fly northwest to the Marshall Islands held by Japan. Natives of the Marshalls and the island of Saipan in the Marianas much further west have told tales of two American aviators, a man and a woman, being held there around 1937 to 1939. While it is virtually impossible the Electra could have flown all the way to Saipan, it is conceivable that Earhart and Noonan landed on or near the Marshalls and were brought to Saipan.

    One of the most popular of these theories claims the Electra crash-landed at the Mili Atoll where, after several days, its crew was picked up by a Japanese fishing boat. The flyers were then taken to another island, probably Jaluit, where Noonan received medical treatment for cuts received in the crash. The two were moved again to Kwajalein and ultimately imprisoned at Saipan. In 1960, a woman named Josephine Akiyama who had lived on Saipan came forward suggesting she had seen two Americans being held on the island in 1937. Four other native women also told stories of a thin foreign woman with short hair cut like that of a man who was on Saipan around the time. They said the woman had been a pilot who was captured spying after her plane crashed to the south. Additionally, some of the women remembered excitement about an aircraft with a broken wing being transported aboard a Japanese ship. The natives also said the foreigner was kept under guard and looked sickly. They went on to suggest that the woman was either killed or died of illness and was buried on the island.
    These stories caught the interest of a CBS Radio correspondent named Fred Goerner who traveled to Saipan in the 1960s looking for evidence to solve the Earhart mystery. While some 50 residents claimed to remember two American aviators, no official documentation of their presence could be located. Goerner hired divers to search Saipan's harbor for aircraft wreckage, and although some was found, it was from a Japanese plane and not the Electra. Goerner also looked into rumors from a US serviceman who said he was shown graves of the two flyers while stationed on Saipan in 1945. Although bodies were uncovered, they did not match those of Earhart or Noonan. Another US soldier who served on the island even claimed that he watched as fellow Americans destroyed a Lockheed Electra stored in a Japanese hanger at Saipan's airfield. Perhaps Goerner's most extreme contention is that US servicemen recovered the pair's bodies which may still be in the possession of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. He also maintained that some of his theories were confirmed by no less than Admiral Chester Nimitz who commanded the US Pacific Fleet during the war. Despite the lack of success finding compelling evidence placing Earhart and Noonan on these islands, at least ten other expeditions to the Marshalls and Marianas have continued to seek clues to the fate of the famous flyers. One of the most recent was to the island of Tinian just south of Saipan. A US Marine named Saint John Naftel who was stationed on the island in 1945 says he was shown two graves where the Japanese had supposedly executed and buried Earhart and Noonan. Archaeologist Jennings Bunn tested the theory by organizing an excavation of the site, but no remains of any kind were found. Additional excavations have been conducted elsewhere on Saipan near locations where rumors suggest the aviators were held, but no trace of their remains have been found. Still other rumors place the pair on the island of Truk (now called Chuuk) or at a prisoner of war camp in the Philippines, China, or mainland Japan.
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    From what I've read, the TIGHAR people make a pretty compelling case for the Nikumaroro theory. My problem with the Japanese-capture theory is this: it would have taken an ironclad conspiracy of huge size. If as "they" say FDR knew about it when it happened, why has nothing turned up, even with all the efforts since the 80s to discredit his presidency? Then if there was no political conspiracy, evidence would certainly have been collected after the war and occupation of the Mandates. All the "evidence" we have is third-hand and conveniently omits such things as photos, aircraft parts, specific locations, etc.

    Problem with "secret" conspiracies is, someone usually speaks up. Until that happens convincingly, I'm going to have to relegate the capture theory to the Tinfoil Hat Brigade.


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    Sure, iconoclast I agree. I am just looking at different theories that have become prevalent over the last few decades. You make a good point regarding the efforts in the 80's to discredit FDR - if he was involved it would have most likely come out then.
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    This is a facinating case.
    And there are some compeling theories.
    Although I think If I had to pick one I think they probably did simply run out of fuel and take it in to the ocean though it wouldnt surprise me if one day the wreck is found.
    Wouldnt that be something,


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