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  1. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by K.s.canivet View Post
    Guys you will not believe this. I'm almost positive I found the picture. http://www.gettyimages.com/license/112507282
    Third girl from the right.
    The date is off, perfectly fits the description of the picture; kids around 6, ballet class, two girls upfront, and the rest in a row behind them. The girl has the same eyebrows, straight nose, small mouth and shy demeanor. Please respond soon, I'm very excited about this.
    The eyebrows are different. Betty's are practically a straight line and the girl in the pic has quite an arch.

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    Has anyone considered investigating the author, Betty Sodders who wrote "Michigan on Fire?"


    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    Originally Posted by Shadow205
    I need help researching and trying to find an old magazine. You will remember mentioned that George Sodder saw a picture of a young girl in a magazine that he beleived was Betty. He traveled to New York in an attempt to identify the girl but was not allowed to see her. Here is the letter that he wrote to the school;

    Walt Whitman School
    25 East 78th Street
    New York, NY
    Attn: Miss Louise Krueger, Director

    Dear Miss Krueger:

    The enclosed picture of several of your students appearing in the May 14, 1946, edition of LOOK magazine is self-explanatory.

    For your information, the little girl to which the arrow points quite definitely resembles one of our children who disappeared during the latter part of 1945, and I shall appreciate it greatly if you will, at your earliest convenience, favor me with the following information:

    1. Her name
    2. The date of her enrollment
    3. Any further information you may feel at liberty to supply.

    Needless to say, your cooperation in this matter will be more than appreciated.

    Yours very truly,

    George Sodder
    According to Jennie(Granddaughter) it is not known if he received a reply to the letter or not. She thought that she located the correct magazine and purchased it but the picture that she was looking for was not in it. So, evidently there was a mistake on which issue the picture appeared in. Anyone that would like to help could search for anything to do with the school, classmates.com, reunion sites, any place where we might find pictures of students from that time period, any info on "Ms.Krueger".

    Any ideas on where we might go with this information?

    Jennie also said: My mom remembers the picture showing little girls lined up at a ballet class.
    I found a site that lists old issues of Look Magazine and describes some of the topics featured in them:

    http://www.pastpaper.com/List-Look40s.htm

    The February 5, 1946 issue lists "Ballet Fashion Show". Not sure if that is what we are looking for. I find it hard to believe that Mr. Sodder would get the date of the magazine wrong. Perhaps the magazine has pages missing from it?



    ALSO
    Copied over from #2 thread...

    I found this posted in thread one, but I can't get it to open...anyone?

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    [QUOTE=K.s.canivet;13585356]Guys you will not believe this. I'm almost positive I found the picture. http://www.gettyimages.com/license/112507282
    Third girl from the right.
    The date is off, perfectly fits the description of the picture; kids around 6, ballet class, two girls upfront, and the rest in a row behind them. The girl has the same eyebrows, straight nose, small mouth and shy demeanor. Please respond soon, I'm very excited about this.[/QUOTe

    This could be the photo he saw. Or the one his granddaughter remembers.

    Nothing seems to explain how or why he believed the photo was from a particular school, a particular magazine, or a particular date, since none of them match. Could he have been delusional in his grief? I don't think the girl IS Betty, but in his distress maybe he thought it was.

    The person he wrote at the school said there was no doubt about the parentage of the girl in question. So she must have seen the actual photo and known the girl?

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    The February 1946 issue of LOOK with the ballet fashion show involved teens, according to this one for sale.
    https://2neat.com/magazine/product/l...bruary-5-1946/

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    it appears that all the children looked alike to each other. Are there any up to date pictures of the surviving children that we can see? Maybe there is someone out there that will recognize them at an older age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4SAM View Post
    it appears that all the children looked alike to each other. Are there any up to date pictures of the surviving children that we can see? Maybe there is someone out there that will recognize them at an older age?
    I believe I read somewhere that there were age progression pics somewhere but that they were very hurtful to the mother and I am not sure what happened to those.

    I will also say after reading this thread that it is possible the children left without fuss because they knew the person that lured them out of the house. They may have been told to come with them that their parents needed them. I always think of situations where kids at school walk away with a stranger, usually its because they are told someone sent them etc...whose to say that didn't happen in this circumstance. They may have been taken to another country and told their family was dead, if yours was burned up in a fire or that was what you were led to believe how likely later in life would yu go looking for people that are dead, maybe they just didn't look because they didn't know. Its sad the whole situation. Too many strange happenings for me to just accept all of it was coincidence.

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    I also after leaving my pervious thought wondered about something else. What about the guy they caught stealing that night and who cut the phone lines...anyone ever pursue who is friends were or who he "hung out" with. Is it possible to tie him in to anyone else in the case who tried to cover up details of the search after the fire? Find out who the thiefs friends and cohorts were and you might find more truth. Also, if someone can throw grenades onto the house to start a fire who is to say they didn't knock the kids out with some kind of gas before taking them out, if that is what happened. Also what about chloroform, couldn't they have been removed from the house and knocked out with something like that. Someone said they saw the children in a car watching the fire, which leads me to also believe that my earlier thought could be close to the truth, these kids were probably told they all died in the fire and that's why they didn't look for them later.

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