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    hi everyone i know there is already a project that fetures buttons and letters of the missing it was started by jasons mom and they feture a bunch of recent missing children, what i want to do is similar but i want to feture old cold cases such as the lyon sisters, janice pockett, eten patz, andy pulglise and others like the buttons and stuff that they do my theory is if you send out info on these old cold cases someone might remember something or someone if anyone is intrested or has any ideas or anything let me know, even bumper stickers

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    I think its a nice thing to want to do, but I feel like I need to warn you that we've had some serious stalking activities taking place over the past months. You're going to need to be careful who you give your address and personal information out to.

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    I also think you'd need to contact the families for permission.


    Have you considered just doing a Cold Cases website?
    The saints are the sinners who keep trying...

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    yes i have considerd doing a cold case website, i woudlnt give out my add i would use a po box. but its just and idea. and yes i would contact the famliys. and i know most of them would prolly turn me down... if i was to do a website would i still need to contact them?

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    I can only speak for myself, but being one of those "families," I can only say that I have deep appreciation for people who want to help out, but I wouldn't ever want to be contacted out of the blue by anyone wanting to do something like this. Its too much of an intrusion. These families have to open every aspect of their homes and lives to law enforcement. They have very little left and again, speaking strickly for myself and my family, I think I'd have to say that this would spook the poo out of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    The Montgomery County Police detectives were indeed searching specifically for the Lyon sisters when they dug test holes in the yard on Suitland Road. It was one of many stories about the girls disappearance that was in the news over the years. Many tips were followed and many pediphiles and serial killers were investigated in depth before being ruled out.
    In regard to the Suitland Road house, I cannot say specifically what information detectives had from the prison inmates, but I do know that it related directly to the Lyon Sisters. Detectives had to investigate and also had to make a determination as to the veracity of that information and as to the reliability of the informants. I do not know how much reliability was eventually given to them, or how thoroughly their information was checked, beyond the one time newspaper account.
    There has been, however, subsequent information which seems to link the former owner of that house to the Lyon case. I have not seen a 1975 photo of that individual to compare to the sketch, but know that he was about 38 years old at the time. He is still incarcerated in a Maryland Prison. He had a home based cabinet repair business, and allegedly employed another person who had a long police record and who lived in several places near those two shopping centers.
    Richard, do you have a picture of the sketch? I tried locating it, but to no avail.

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    Sketch of Suspect

    Froderick,
    Yes, I do have copies of the two sketches made by Montgomery County Police. They were published by the Washington Post newspaper and I copied them from microfilm files.

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    If I provided you with my email, would you mind sending them to me, if possible?

    Thank you,

    Froderick

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    Sketches

    Yes, go ahead and send me your e-mail address by way of a personal message in this website, and I will try to get the sketches scanned and sent. They are presently paper photocopies made from a microfilm of a newspaper. So the clarity leaves something to be desired, but since they were only black and white sketches to begin with, they don't lose too much. If scanning does not work, I can try to fax them. I have never seen these sketches on any of the websites which feature the girls, and I have never seen them in press stories after 1975.
    Richard

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    I remember them...

    I grew up in Maryland and was 9 years old in 1975. I will never forget the case of the Lyon Sisters. My best friend and I walked to the 7-11 which was about 2 miles from our homes and saw their pictures hanging in the store. We were in shock. We had never seen or heard of missing children. I still remember that feeling when I walked home...looking over my shoulder for this kidnapper. In my world, Maryland meant my neighborhood. A little of my innocence was lost that day. It wasn't until I was in high school that missing kids started appearing on milk cartons. Was the danger always there or are we just more aware of it because of the media attention? I would never let my kids(not that I have any) walk two miles to a store at 9 years old or 12 years old for that matter. I am so thankful for the innocence I had in my childhood.

    I do recall another young boy who was abducted from our area around the same time. He was located and returned to his family but as a child I remember a rumor that there was a connection between this case and the Lyon case....something like this boy had seen the Lyon girls...probably was just a childhood rumor...I have no facts to back it up.

    I will always remember the case of the Lyon Sisters as a rite of passage for me....my first glimpse of a dangerous world.

    BTW....Has anyone read any of John Douglas', FBI profiler, books? Fascinating. I also saw him speak locally. I have learned alot about profiling from him and wonder what his thoughts would be on the Lyon Sisters.


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    missing children were always there it wasnt till john walshes son went missing and then was turned up dead. did they really start to pay more attention to children john had to fight to pass a law for le to take missing childrens reports and eventualy they opened up the ncmec. prior to adam walshes murder. most le didnt really do much about a missing child they took the info down but little was done.. i hope they find the lyon sisters so they can be brought back to the family even though its an old case

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    Lyon Sisters Story

    Many missing persons websites exist today, and most of them "borrow" information, files, photos, and stories from other websites. A few of the earlier websites have become defunct, yet their files appear on other sites, sometimes altered slightly. I wrote the origional story about the LYON sisters that most of these sites copy, quote, misquote, paraphrase, and alter. Because many of these "edited" versions of my 2001 story have induced errors, or have left out bits of information in the interest of brevity, I decided to locate my origional story and post it here for all to read.
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    Sheila Mary Lyon

    Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance
    Missing Since: March 25, 1975 from Wheaton, Maryland
    Classification: Endangered Missing
    Date Of Birth: March 30, 1962
    Age at the time: 12 years old
    Height and Weight: 5'2; 100 pounds
    Classification: Endangered Missing
    NCIC Number: M-6053299749
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Blonde hair; blue eyes. Sheila wears eyeglasses.

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    Katherine Mary Lyon

    Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance
    Missing Since: March 25, 1975 from Wheaton, Maryland
    Classification: Endangered Missing
    Date Of Birth: March 29, 1964
    Age at time: 10 years old
    Height and Weight: 4'8; 85 pounds
    Classification: Endangered Missing
    NCIC Number: M-605329953
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Blonde hair; blue eyes. Katherine has a birthmark inside her upper thigh. Her nickname is "Kate."

    Case Details

    Between 11:00 AM and Noon on Tuesday, 25 March 1975, Sheila M. LYON age 12, and her younger sister, Katherine M. (Kate) LYON age 10 left their home at 3121 Plyers Mill Road in Kensington, Maryland to walk to the Wheaton Plaza Shopping Center in Wheaton, located on the corner of University Boulevard and Veirs Mills Road, a distance of about half a mile from their home. The girls were on spring break from school and it was their intention to view Easter exhibits and to have lunch at The Orange Bowl Restaurant.

    They were seen outside the Orange Bowl at about 1:00 PM by a 13-year-old boy who knew them. He described seeing them talking to a middle aged man in a brown suit who had a cassette tape recorder in a briefcase. The boy reported that other children were also talking to the man and into a microphone that he held. This boy's account to police investigators became the basis for a composite sketch and description of a possible suspect in the girls' disappearance.

    The girls were seen in The Orange Bowl Restaurant about 2:00 PM by their own brother, Jay LYON age 14, who said that they were eating pizza together at the time.

    Another friend of the sisters later reported seeing them walking west on Drumm Avenue between 2:30 PM and 3:30 PM near Devon Street. Drumm Avenue, a residential street, was part of the most direct route from Wheaton Plaza to their home. This was the last known sighting of the Lyon sisters.

    The girls' mother, Mary LYON had told Sheila and Kate to be home by 4:00 PM, and when they had not arrived by 7:00 PM, she called the Montgomery County Police to report them missing.

    The girls' father, John LYON, was an announcer for WMAL radio in Washington, DC. The radio station, area television stations, and the Washington Post newspaper gave the case much publicity. Many people in the Washington Metropolitan area were interested in the case and many were involved in trying to solve it. Rewards were raised and offered and many tips came in.

    With the Washington Post's publication of the sketch of the "Tape Recorder Man" suspect, several people called to state that they had seen him at Wheaton Plaza on Monday, 24 March, the day before the girls' disappearance. Aproximately fifteen other callers recognized the sketch and description of the suspect as that of a man seen on Saturday, 22 March at Iverson Mall and at Marlton Heights Shopping Center, both in neighboring Prince Georges County, Maryland. This indivudal was reportedly approaching young girls with a request that they read an answering machine type message typed on an index card into the suspect's hand held microphone. Based on these witnesses, the first sketch was only slightly modified and reissued. A few Prince Georges County men were questioned, but none were considered viable suspects.

    A massive search of the Kensington and Wheaton areas was conducted. The search involved tracking dogs, volunteers, National Guardsmen, Helicopters, and divers, but no trace of the girls was found.

    In the days and weeks that followed, a few attempts at extortion were made by individuals demanding ransom payments. While most of these attempts were quickly considered crank calls, one was taken more seriously. This occurred on Friday, 4 April 1975, when a male caller demanded of John Lyon that he place $10,000 in a restroom at the Ann Arundel County Court House in Annapolis. John Lyon and Montgomery County Police officials left a briefcase as instructed, but no one came to retrieve it. The man later called back and said that there had been too many police in the area for him to get to the money. When told that he had to produce some evidence that he actually had the girls before the ransom would be paid, he said that he would call back, but never did. This was not made public until the following incident took place.

    On Monday 7 April 1975, at 7:30 AM, a witness in Manassas, Virginia reported that he saw two young girls bound and gagged in the back of a beige 1968 Ford station wagon. This sighting was at the corner of Grant and Center Streets in Manassas. When the driver of the car (a man who the witness said resembled the composite sketch of the suspect) saw that he was being followed and watched, he accelerated, ran a red light, and drove west on route 234 toward Interstate 66. It was reported that the vehicle had Maryland plates, possibly with the following letter/number combination: DMT-6**. The last two numbers could not be seen because the plate was bent. That combination of letters had been issued in Cumberland, Hagerstown and Baltimore, Maryland. A search for all possible combinations of those plate numbers failed to produce any information.

    With that last report, at first deemed credible, but later considered questionable by police, the case of Sheila and Kate Lyon gradually went from front page daily news to sporadic updates and then to anniversary articles.

    Fred Howard Coffey Jr. was viewed as a possible suspect in the sisters' cases beginning in March 1987. Coffey is serving a life sentence in a North Carolina prison for murder and child molestation convictions. Authorities learned that he began working at a scientific firm based in Silver Spring, Maryland one month after the Lyon sisters vanished. Investigators have been unable to determine if Coffey is connected to the cases and he has never been charged in their disappearances.

    Investigators considered Raymond Rudolph Mileski Sr. another potential suspect in the girls' disappearances. Mileski resided at 5816 Suitland Road in Suitland, Maryland (Prince Georges County) in 1975. He murdered his wife and teenage son inside their home after a disagreement in November 1977. Mileski's youngest son was wounded in the incident. He was convicted of the homicides in 1978 and sentenced to 40 years in prison. Authorities searched the yard of his former residence in April 1982 for material connected to the Lyon cases, but no evidence was discovered.

    Although occasional leads have been given to the police over the years, the case remains open and unsolved to this day.

    Investigating Agency
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    Montgomery County Police Department
    240-773-5070

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    the suspects that they had in mind did they have pics of them and if they did, did any of them resemble the sketch and what was the recording that the guy wanted? from those kids.

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    Tape Recorder Man

    Quote Originally Posted by smile22
    the suspects that they had in mind did they have pics of them and if they did, did any of them resemble the sketch and what was the recording that the guy wanted? from those kids.
    Many persons were questioned by police concerning the Lyon sisters, probably not many of them were photographed as a rule. Police are always careful to say whether or not someone is "considered a suspect". That always implies that they have some sort of evidence on a specific individual. In this case, there simply was very little physical evidence that a crime was even committed. The girls were known to be at the Mall, and were seen talking to the man with the tape recorder, then they disappeared within the next two or three hours. No one actually saw them abducted, and they have never been found.
    Some of the possible suspects investigated over the years have been career criminals or convicts in prisons. In those cases, booking photos and official prison photos do exist. I do not know how many of those photos resemble the sketch. I have copies of both sketches, but do not know exactly how to post them in this forum.
    Regarding what the Tape Recorder Man wanted recorded: No one stated specifically what he wanted from the Lyon Sisters, or any other children on the day the girls disappeared. At least it was not reported in the papers. Witnesses at two other malls (in Prince Georges County) stated that a man who matched the description and sketch of the Montgomery County Tape Recorder Man had been approaching young teen aged girls and he would say something like "Gee, you have a nice voice. I like the sound of a girl's voice. Would you read an answering machine message for me?" He handed an index card to some of the PG County girls and asked them to read from it, but the girls he approached stated that they refused to do so.

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    very intresting. how long was the man at the mall? does anyone know if he was there when the girls were on the way home maybe he was secretly following them from a distance and saw them walking home and deicided to follow them

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