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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieWind View Post
    No question she is back there. Whether the figure we see in the photo is her or the **** doesnt really matter. I'm 100% positive she is back there. Why else would Atwater be in the backseat? Plus, they wanted her there to make sure they could get money out. Once they knew they had the PIN and it worked, only then did they decide they didnt need her anymore. They could have just driven her to a remote place and dropped her off, and that would have given t hem sufficient time to get away. But no, I think they wanted to shoot her.
    I agree PrarieWind. IMO, both Atwater and lovette exited that SUV and shot her after getting her pin #. Eve was shot by both Lovett's handgun and Atwater's sawed off shot gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    I am glad I could help, borndem

    Those pics haunt me, Eve's blond hair is in a pony tail, IMO. There's no doubt in my mind that she was being held by Atwater in the back seat of her SUV.
    I keep looking at this pic, even blown up, and I just can't make her out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    IDK, I was laughing too hard! I am so glad that you caught that! I was wondering if anyone else is following along.

    I wonder where Worm got a wig?

    ETA

    I mean no disrespect towards Eve but I sure needed that Laugh!!! I hope that Eve is laughing along with us. She is the reason we are all here.
    Worm always wears a white warm wig on wacky Wednesdays and weekends.

    Why wouldn't we?


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    Is this witness Jeff AKA Philly?

    He is being questioned about the route taken when the gun was disposed and I remember Ms love stating Philly was driving to the autobody shop.

    Never mind, My questioned was answered in testimony. Just trying to keep all this straight.

    I have to run the vacuum, spray some febreeze and scrub some things before Mr wm returns home. Please keep us updated on details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda View Post
    I am glad I could help, borndem

    Those pics haunt me, Eve's blond hair is in a pony tail, IMO. There's no doubt in my mind that she was being held by Atwater in the back seat of her SUV.
    Yes, and I would assume he had that little .25 pointed at her the whole time. Did she think that they would kill her, or did they "reassure" her that they wouldn't if she behaved? What panic and horrible thoughts must have been going through her sweet head?

    I have been wondering for a while now, as probably many of us have -- and I'm thinking that unless Atwater testifies, we will never know -- what events preceded her being dumped on Hillcrest? Did she try to make a run for it and they shot her down, or did they just pick this area because it was dark & they got paranoid or impatient?

    Did she pizz one of them off & he shot her in the car for the first shot & shoved her out and they finished her there in the street, or just what? And how did her computer have a shot fired through it? Part of some mad scramble in the car?

    Any ideas, anyone? Did Atwater or Lovette tell anyone what happened, & if so, was it true? Eerie, odd and awful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieWind View Post
    No question she is back there. Whether the figure we see in the photo is her or the **** doesnt really matter. I'm 100% positive she is back there. Why else would Atwater be in the backseat? Plus, they wanted her there to make sure they could get money out. Once they knew they had the PIN and it worked, only then did they decide they didnt need her anymore. They could have just driven her to a remote place and dropped her off, and that would have given t hem sufficient time to get away. But no, I think they wanted to shoot her.
    That fits with what Lovette allegedly did with the Duke student. He robbed him and then shot him dead. And that was how he said he was going to make a living -- rob & kill.

    Can't leave any witnesses. But Lovette's MO didn't work well or for very long. What an idiot and a cold, un-feeling &) $*#^*(*.



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    Here's a link to
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    ***WARNING!!! Graphic Details!!!

    http://www.bluelineradio.com/Eve_Carson_autopsy.pdf
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    That is pretty rough to read Matilda. But that report tells a lot. Shot in the bottucks. Was she trying to run away? or Did that shot come after she was already down? She certainly was alive and conscious when shot wtih the shotgun since she raised her hand into the blast. I dont know enough about this case or remember enough, but were the shots heard by anyone?


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    I think that when they turned into hillcrest...Eve knew she was going to get killed and tried to make a run for it. No other explanation for her being shot in her right buttocks unless she was running from them. She fought even after being shot 4 times and Atwater then shot her in the face. They are both heartless ****s.
    There is a video on Youtube of a younger Atwater rapping....shows the useless life he was leading and is mostly about shooting people. It is under Demario Atwater TRU if you can stomach watching that guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieWind View Post
    That is pretty rough to read Matilda. But that report tells a lot. Shot in the bottucks. Was she trying to run away? or Did that shot come after she was already down? She certainly was alive and conscious when shot wtih the shotgun since she raised her hand into the blast. I dont know enough about this case or remember enough, but were the shots heard by anyone?
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    Yes, Prairie. The first witness the PT called was a woman who was wide awake before 5:00am that morning -- she was seven months pregnant so she just lay there after getting up for a bathroom run ... She heard what she thought was one shot, followed by a woman's scream, and then heard three more rapidly-fired shots.

    She thought about it, woke her husband and he told her to call 911. She did, and the call was recorded as coming into them at 5:08am, IIRC. When asked what the scream sounded like, she said she thought it sounded like it came from a younger woman rather than an older one. They lived on Marilyn Lane, and she thought the shots were behind their property. And in fact the shots were on the street behind them -- Hillcrest and Hillcrest Circle.

    The CHPD came, spoke with her, then started looking around. They found the body fairly quickly, and things got started.

    Yes, I do wonder if Eve tried to make a run for it. If she thought they were planning to kill her, why not just try? Or did a struggle in the car start things? Or did they order her to get out and lie on the street, and they just shot her in cold blood? I surely would like to know, but unless Atwater testifies and tells the truth, or unless Lovette told someone about it & that person testifies (and Lovette told him/her the truth), we will never know.

    What a horrible, horrible way to spend the last 1 -- 2 hours of your life -- in total abject fear, loneliness and helplessness. Oh, my. Grrrrrr.


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    the defence were right in the fact that most of states witnesses excepting LE have criminal records, and long records often involving drugs and violence, many are getting something in exchange for there testimony, especially the witness who was a double felon and would have been looking at probably doing a life sentence if he was charged with helping the defendants dispose of the gun, instead he got use immunity,

    the ex girlfriend of the co defendant did well as a witness, her only mis step (she was very well coached by the state, one of the best coached witnesses I have yet to see) was that she just couldn't admit to giving her son a blunt to smoke and videoing it, she was so smartly coached that the question that was the most difficult to deal with was smoothly answered, the one where defence asked her if she threw any part of the gun away and she answered not that I remember, very clever lawyering as state knew the witness immediately after her was a witness who was going to say she threw a part of the gun away

    thus she did not say no she said I don't remember,

    I expect defence are gearing up for Atwater, if they can't damage him in front of jury then the fat lady has already sung, as all the other witnesses are just icing, Atwater is the cake, if jury believe him there is no where else for defence to go


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lori59 View Post
    I think that when they turned into hillcrest...Eve knew she was going to get killed and tried to make a run for it. No other explanation for her being shot in her right buttocks unless she was running from them. She fought even after being shot 4 times and Atwater then shot her in the face. They are both heartless ****s.
    There is a video on Youtube of a younger Atwater rapping....shows the useless life he was leading and is mostly about shooting people. It is under Demario Atwater TRU if you can stomach watching that guy.
    Thanks for sharing this, Lori59. I may watch it eventually, just don't want to give Atwater's rap vid a 'hit' during the trial. Maybe next week, or the next..... It makes me sick to my stomach to think about Eve's fright at the hands of these <modsnip>. My imagination got the best of me when I read the autopsy report and I find it difficult to type what I was thinking about her being shot in the buttocks.,ie, trying to get away.

    Not only are these ****s heartless but they also lack a soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyme View Post
    Just got my answer. Geesh these people are scary.
    Yeah, they are. It's such a contrast -- Eve's best friend was a fellow Morehead Scholar. Another of her friends -- the one with whom she went to Cuba -- was also a Morehead Scolar, IIRC. Justin Singer, another of her roommates, seemed like an up-and-coming young man. All of them appeared to be truly first class young people.

    Atwater's and Lovette's friends/girlfriends whom we saw on the stand -- each of them had rap-sheets. Drug dealers, thieves, or both. Not unexpected, but it's just a side of life that is very unfamiliar to most of us.

    Birds of a feather.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieWind View Post
    No question she is back there. Whether the figure we see in the photo is her or the **** doesnt really matter. I'm 100% positive she is back there. Why else would Atwater be in the backseat? Plus, they wanted her there to make sure they could get money out. Once they knew they had the PIN and it worked, only then did they decide they didnt need her anymore. They could have just driven her to a remote place and dropped her off, and that would have given t hem sufficient time to get away. But no, I think they wanted to shoot her.
    They HAD to shoot her dead. Leave no witnesses. She would have easily been able to identify them, even if all their time "together" was in the dark, or semi-darkness. That was what Lovette knew worked for him and his robberies -- find'em, rob'em and kill'em. Just a matter of next time and place for him and wrong-time, wrong-place for poor Eve. Makes me wanna holler. Ohhhh, stomach-churning. Unnecessary and so very, very cruel.

    If Atwater & Lovette had been hiding behind that sorority-house dumpster the whole time Caroline Harper was in her car so that she would not have seen them, I firmly and totally believe she would be dead today, and only Lovette's and Atwater's victim would have been different -- nothing else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joe jones View Post
    the defence were right in the fact that most of states witnesses excepting LE have criminal records, and long records often involving drugs and violence, many are getting something in exchange for there testimony, especially the witness who was a double felon and would have been looking at probably doing a life sentence if he was charged with helping the defendants dispose of the gun, instead he got use immunity,

    the ex girlfriend of the co defendant did well as a witness, her only mis step (she was very well coached by the state, one of the best coached witnesses I have yet to see) was that she just couldn't admit to giving her son a blunt to smoke and videoing it, she was so smartly coached that the question that was the most difficult to deal with was smoothly answered, the one where defence asked her if she threw any part of the gun away and she answered not that I remember, very clever lawyering as state knew the witness immediately after her was a witness who was going to say she threw a part of the gun away

    thus she did not say no she said I don't remember,

    I expect defence are gearing up for Atwater, if they can't damage him in front of jury then the fat lady has already sung, as all the other witnesses are just icing, Atwater is the cake, if jury believe him there is no where else for defence to go

    I hope the PT is able to get Atwater to testify as well. I heard one little dribble that they may not be able to get him from California -- I don't know why it was said.

    I would like to hear the details of the kidnap & murder and Atwater could surely tell it. I don't think he would have any particular loyalty to Lovette -- not if the PT helped Atwater get to another prison, or get a better prison "job" or maybe let him have special visitors while he is back in NC, etc., etc. And I know he is a very bad character, but I'd sure love to hear what he has to say. You'd think that since he's already pleaded guilty and has a sentence, he would just lay it out for the world to see.


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