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    UT - Christopher Kirsch, 62, stabbed to death in his Orem home, 15 June 2008

    Poor Christopher Kirsch. The 62 year old father was stabbed to death with a meat clever on Father's Day. What makes it worse is it was his own son who murdered him.

    Michael Kirsch aged 31 used a meat clever to hatchet his dad while his mother called 911. The Orem, Utah man has a 2004 conviction for aggravated assault with a knife. Talk about hoping your child will grow up to lead a prosperous life as an adult.


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    We had this local story by my house where a Father killed his son on Father's Day.
    http://wjz.com/local/shooting.2.748822.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by michelle View Post
    We had this local story by my house where a Father killed his son on Father's Day.
    http://wjz.com/local/shooting.2.748822.html
    How sad. A sad day all around for these people.

    Michael Kirsch had schizophrenia. He had been commited to a State hospital until 2007. How so very sad. Parents trying to help their son. That is heartbreaking.



    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_9598156

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filly View Post
    How sad. A sad day all around for these people.

    Michael Kirsch had schizophrenia. He had been commited to a State hospital until 2007. How so very sad. Parents trying to help their son. That is heartbreaking.



    http://www.sltrib.com/ci_9598156
    How sad- he must have stopped taking his meds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneLostGrl View Post
    How sad- he must have stopped taking his meds...
    I thought that as well, OneLostGrl. I feel so very bad for this family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filly View Post
    I thought that as well, OneLostGrl. I feel so very bad for this family.
    Me too. When is the mental health system going to get the backing and money for research and follow-up programs for schizophrenics? The disease has such a high fatality rate for victims and families. So much pain and suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiperoni View Post
    Me too. When is the mental health system going to get the backing and money for research and follow-up programs for schizophrenics? The disease has such a high fatality rate for victims and families. So much pain and suffering.
    You make a good point, chiperoni. It seems like mental health issues in the longrun get swept under the rug. Here's a family that could have benefitted with some follow up care for sure.

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    Michael Kirsch got 20 years for the murder of his father with possibility of parole. Some plea deal going on.

    Kirsch had to be prepared to be able to stand trial because of his mental health issues.

    I'd wondered about this family. It's all too sad.




    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ng-of-dad.html

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    Once again I have to ask the obvious question; if we can develop a long term implant (Implanon) for birth control, why can't we develop an implant for schizophrenia and severe bipolar?

    There aren't many among us who wouldn't be tempted to go off our meds if we felt much much better off them. People who do not live with these illnesses just don't get it. Mentally ill people don't choose to be this way. They don't choose to have horrible side effects. They don't choose to have a false sense of hope that the med is working. These illnesses are great temptresses and fool the brain.

    When the brain is fooled, people get hurt.



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