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    Maricopa Jane Doe 1999 Thread #5

    Please continue general discussion here.


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    let's think about the possibility that she was closer to 13 than 15...perhaps that is why she lied to the strip club saying she was 15...that would put her at the same age as the girl KTL was charged with trafficking...


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    It kills me how young she was.


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    Hi everyone, new-ish to the forums, not new to this case. She is one of my pet cases. I've got 2 questions, can anyone give me a simplified version of what has gone on in threads 3-5? Please? I'm starting to have brain malfunctions and info overload trying to read them all from the beginning. I'd really appreciate it. I got up to about the middle of Thread #3 and realized that I had not comprehended anything for the last dozen posts. I saw something here in this thread about a strip club? Can I get clued in on that at least?
    next on the list of questions, have we been looking for people with major scars or birthmarks that were in the spot where our girl has her tattoo? It is possible that when she went missing she had a birthmark on her chest and covered it up with a tattoo. I'm sure somebody already brought that up and I missed it.
    The work that has been done here already is truly amazing.


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    And I came up with another question...I know... I am the genuine definition of PITA. Id there any way to get a listing of emancipated minors from the area from around that time? I think it might be a possibility.


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    Hi not my kids, welcome to WS.

    Somewhere in the LE report, a witness interviewed said MJD had applied to be a dancer at a Strip Club, but was denied because of her age. HTH.

    I like your idea about emancipated minors.
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    Ok, caught myself up, the questions still stand though.
    Thanks Cubby.


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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    Ok, caught myself up, the questions still stand though.
    Thanks Cubby.
    I think if you asked 10 people, they'd have 10 different summations of threads 3 and 4, but here's a go:
    We were considering contacting the female in the vehicle with MJD, her name is Lindsey. There was a possibility of getting some media attention through a reporter who was interested in interview someone local (Arizona) regarding Websleuths. The police report has been discussed at lengths. It was confirmed that there was a ring with the initials "DMA" on it. Someone in the police report claims that MJD went by the street name "Cory or Carla". MJD had real diamonds in the jewelry she carried. There has been some discussion about the driver of the vehicle. His name is Alonzo but he was referred to as "William" in one part of the police report.

    What have I missed? Anyone want to add?


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    I'd have to say there is much much more.....I just don't have time, sadly, to recap.


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    Hey guys: not to interupt but a huge child sex ring bust went down in the last few days and included perps picked up in Phoenix!!! http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/25/...tes/index.html


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    Hi Ya'll!

    Welcome NMK - great to have new eyes, insight and determination here! Please let me know if you still have questions and I'll attempt to answer them for you. We now have seen the original police report and portions of the ME's report. I would like to know where LE stands on this investigation right now. Seems ADF and Lipsey have been in pretty consistent trouble since (and before!) MJD took that fatal flight out the window. I don't see Alonzo suddenly opening up much about it at this stage. But I do not believe Lipsey was sufficiently pursued in terms of his knowledge of and relationship with MJD. Since he seems to be in perpetual legal trouble, I sure wish LE would take an opportunity to negotiate for some concrete information.

    BTW - I have read the police report completely twice now and still feel I'm missing something. Both times LE questioned Lipsey, they asked him if he knew Kansas City Slim or KC or KC Slim. I don't see anywhere where that came from. Does anyone know???


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    BTW - again - I like the idea of looking at emancipated teens as this is not something we have pursued before. It could explain why no one has been looking for her. However, I can't see any court granting emancipation to someone this young. I really don't know much about it, but I would assume the teen would have to prove they had somewhere safe to live and a legitimate way to earn a living. That would definitely not be a strip club or prostitution.


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    Maybe one or more of the pimps picked up just might remember our MJD-might be a good time for the reporter to poke around??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    Welcome NMK - great to have new eyes, insight and determination here! Please let me know if you still have questions and I'll attempt to answer them for you. We now have seen the original police report and portions of the ME's report. I would like to know where LE stands on this investigation right now. Seems ADF and Lipsey have been in pretty consistent trouble since (and before!) MJD took that fatal flight out the window. I don't see Alonzo suddenly opening up much about it at this stage. But I do not believe Lipsey was sufficiently pursued in terms of his knowledge of and relationship with MJD. Since he seems to be in perpetual legal trouble, I sure wish LE would take an opportunity to negotiate for some concrete information.

    BTW - I have read the police report completely twice now and still feel I'm missing something. Both times LE questioned Lipsey, they asked him if he knew Kansas City Slim or KC or KC Slim. I don't see anywhere where that came from. Does anyone know???
    KC Slim and Kansas City Slim are aliases of his in the sex trade, I believe...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    Welcome NMK - great to have new eyes, insight and determination here! Please let me know if you still have questions and I'll attempt to answer them for you. We now have seen the original police report and portions of the ME's report. I would like to know where LE stands on this investigation right now. Seems ADF and Lipsey have been in pretty consistent trouble since (and before!) MJD took that fatal flight out the window. I don't see Alonzo suddenly opening up much about it at this stage. But I do not believe Lipsey was sufficiently pursued in terms of his knowledge of and relationship with MJD. Since he seems to be in perpetual legal trouble, I sure wish LE would take an opportunity to negotiate for some concrete information.

    BTW - I have read the police report completely twice now and still feel I'm missing something. Both times LE questioned Lipsey, they asked him if he knew Kansas City Slim or KC or KC Slim. I don't see anywhere where that came from. Does anyone know???

    I was under the impression that KC Slim was a gang?.. or gang members affiliated in a gang

    And I know in the state of AZ (however that may not be where she's from and I am aware that laws differ elsewhere) you must be at least 16 years of age with transportation, a valid address but you DO NOT have to be attending school.. however; you do have to work to provide adequate income. And I don't believe in 1999 the age of child emancipation was set at 16 because Janet Napolitano just recently changed that.. not sure if it was older or younger before..

    in fact.. I don't think there was ever really a statute for it to be honest..


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