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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_shadows View Post
    There are more and more sex crimes happing around here.


    http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8625955

    Burlington Police arrested a man after he broke into the apartments of two young women and allegedly sexually molested at least one of them. Police say no one was injured, but the incidents were frightening because in each case, the intruder was a stranger who recklessly broke in through unlocked doors and windows.

    More at link.

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    They should have said he entered through an unlocked door or window, IF they had been locked then it would be a break in.

  2. #107
    It is also going to depend somewhat on MJ's family's standing in that community, too. If his family is friends with the Judges, this may be a reason to move it. IIRC, his grandmother served as a Justice of the Peace for quite a few years in the area.

    Still, I think they can get a fair trial there. People's reactions aren't going to be much different to the evidence anywhere else in a case such as horrific as this one. I certainly would NOT want to be on that jury tho. It will be a nightmare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    They should have said he entered through an unlocked door or window, IF they had been locked then it would be a break in.
    If I remember right break means the seal of the door is broken as in opened. doesn't matter if its locked or not.
    enter well that is self explanatory.

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  4. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    They should have said he entered through an unlocked door or window, IF they had been locked then it would be a break in.
    He may have been really stupid and actually broke the unlocked windows or doors before entering tho. Yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    He may have been really stupid and actually broke the unlocked windows or doors before entering tho. Yes?
    LOL, never thought of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    Some affadavits aren't ever published in cases I've followed, and in the Laurean/Lauterbach case it dragged on forever, and not all were released.

    MUCH of what is learned as to details never come out until the trial as to not 'taint' the case when selecting a jury.
    right but these affidavits are already released and out there, and much of the detail in them has been reported.

    re: redaction, see my earlier comments on this, if they were going to do such a lousy job of it im not sure why they even bothered to try and redact to protect AR's identity. it would be laughable if it wasnt so sad.

  7. #112
    It reminds me again of the screen on top of the porch at MJ's house. It is sticking out for me. I would like to know how it got there. Are they easily blown off or removed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by liljim View Post
    right but these affidavits are already released and out there, and much of the detail in them has been reported.

    re: redaction, see my earlier comments on this, if they were going to do such a lousy job of it im not sure why they even bothered to try and redact to protect AR's identity. it would be laughable if it wasnt so sad.
    To be honest I was shocked they released them so soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    To be honest I was shocked they released them so soon.
    Me too. I think they jumped the gun on releasing them. In fact I think they were leaked from the court house before they were supposed to be. Thats why they had to go back and redact .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    To be honest I was shocked they released them so soon.
    I agree. I am glad they did, but it did come as a surprise without a doubt. We rarely see that much from LE or the FBI. It has to mean there is so much more we aren't seeing that it is neccessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by becca View Post
    If you noticed they had to back pedal and black out some info after first publishing with out redacting. This was an error. Now they will be very careful. They could blow the case. It happened here with the Lunsford case.... the trial had to be moved to Miami. No jury could be seated here.
    Think small town Vermont and national coverage of this case and the same thing could well happen.

    i agree that they should have been and will be more careful about what they release, but again, we are talking about affidavits that are already public and have had many of the details in them reported widely, im commenting on the selection of details that have been reported, and the ones that have been omitted - by news outlets. not officials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    They should have said he entered through an unlocked door or window, IF they had been locked then it would be a break in.
    Dearest TomsGirl,
    He broke through her unlocked window screen, then he opened her bedroom door that was not locked and sexually assualted her.
    Her bedroom door was not locked, but it does not matter, he walked through the threshold. Besides, who locks thier bedroom door anyway? It does not matter that her bedroom door was not locked.

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    Oh, they will definitely be more careful from here on out!
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    I don't know they will release anything much about the autopsy results other than the manner of death (ie. murder, suicide, accidental). We already know the answer, I think.

    I am not expecting a lot more to come out tomorrow actually. They lined things out already in the affidavit sufficient to charge him.

    The additional charges against Jacques will be interesting in how they plan on wording those in the affidavit tho.
    isnt it typical, in cases where sexual assault is highly suspected, to release if evidence of such is found during autopsy?

  16. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by dark_shadows View Post
    Dearest TomsGirl,
    He broke through her unlocked window screen, then he opened her bedroom door that was not locked and sexually assualted her.
    Her bedroom door was not locked, but it does not matter, he walked through the threshold. Besides, who locks thier bedroom door anyway? It does not matter that her bedroom door was not locked.

    Love and Respect,
    dark_shadows
    And to think for about $20.00 per month, those women could have an alarm system. Then again, if they didn't bother locking their windows...shame on them!
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



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