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    FL - Pasco Co., Box of bones kept by deceased individual, Jul'08

    Wow they are finding lots of bones on the West Coast of Fla past couple weeks, here's another one.

    http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/jul...d-hudson-shed/
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    By GEOFF FOX | The Tampa Tribune

    Published: July 4, 2008

    HUDSON - A box containing what appeared to be human remains was found Friday in a storage shed at 13029 Buoy Court, the Pasco County Sheriff's Office said.

    The sheriff's office was called around noon by the family of Otto Ullrich, who died last year, sheriff's spokesman Doug Tobin said. He said Ullrich lived in New Jersey and Pasco, but that the Buoy Court property was not Ullrich's primary residence.

    Tobin said the bones were found in a box that appeared to have been at the residence for "a considerable amount of time."
    Discussion and quotes of links that don't load for me here:
    http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.com...e41197e974c20c

    Apparently Otto Ullrich died in his eighties and was something of an eccentric, a loner/miser/hoarder/scavenger/collector who was not known to be violent and might possibly have found the bones somewhere and brought them home and kept them. There were no obvious missing person cases connected with him.

    I didn't find information about the bones being identified but they're not listed in Namus or DN.


    On Friday, nephews of Otto Ullrich made the surprising find as they cleaned out a shed at 13029 Buoy Court in Hudson. Ullrich — who was not poor but lived as though he was by doing such things as bathing in a canal behind his home and bicycling miles to find scrap metal — died last year at 81. His nephews inherited his properties.

    The medical examiner's office is working to determine whether there is more than one set of human remains, their age and their gender. Tobin said none of Ullrich's close relatives are missing, which would be one sign of foul play. The bones, he said, could be 100 years old. "We don't know at this point," he said. "It's still a mystery."
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    The box was very old, Tobin said, as indicated by writing on the box and newspapers found inside. They date from 1972 to 1993.

    The Sheriff's Office declined to reveal details about the remains. The medical examiner will determine all that, and if possible, a cause of death.

    But deputies are running down the possibilities. There are no missing relatives or neighbors, Tobin said.

    And they're checking to make sure Ullrich's two deceased wives are buried where they're supposed to be.

    Cadaver dogs searched Ullrich's primary residence at 7810 Gulf Highlands Drive but found nothing, said deputies.

    Both properties are unoccupied.

    Neighbors said Ullrich was never violent. Records show he was never arrested in Florida.

    The Sheriff's Office won't call it foul play and won't even call it a crime scene — despite all the yellow tape.

    All deputies have is a mystery.
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    What ever became of this? Did the medical examiners ever identify the bones? Age and if they where male or female ? The newspapers were from 1972 and 1993. A lot of people went missing and never found in those years they could be anybody!
    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    Discussion and quotes of links that don't load for me here:
    http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.com...e41197e974c20c

    Apparently Otto Ullrich died in his eighties and was something of an eccentric, a loner/miser/hoarder/scavenger/collector who was not known to be violent and might possibly have found the bones somewhere and brought them home and kept them. There were no obvious missing person cases connected with him.

    I didn't find information about the bones being identified but they're not listed in Namus or DN.



    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...efox-a&strip=1



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    this is all I found.. there was no update as to if the bones were male or female or adult or child.. or any more info r photo of the box they were in..
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...f-bones/661947

    He is even more of a mystery in death.
    A year after Ullrich died at the age of 81, the Pasco County Sheriff's Office said, human bones were found Friday on one of his old properties at 13029 Buoy Court.

    His nephews were visiting from New Jersey to clean up their uncle's properties for sale.
    Then Friday morning they started on the plain white shed sitting by the plain white mobile home.
    "The last thing the two nephews thought they'd find," said sheriff's spokesman Doug Tobin, "was some bones in a box."

    Soon after, official-looking vehicles lined the street. A crime scene technician examined the shed. A medical examiner confirmed the bones were human. Cadaver dogs didn't find any more remains on the property. And TV crews set up video cameras as stunned residents in this canal neighborhood looked on.
    The box was very old, Tobin said, as indicated by writing on the box and newspapers found inside. They date from 1972 to 1993.
    The Sheriff's Office declined to reveal details about the remains. The medical examiner will determine all that, and if possible, a cause of death.
    But deputies are running down the possibilities. There are no missing relatives or neighbors, Tobin said.
    And they're checking to make sure Ullrich's two deceased wives are buried where they're supposed to be.
    Cadaver dogs searched Ullrich's primary residence at 7810 Gulf Highlands Drive but found nothing, said deputies.
    Both properties are unoccupied.

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    Holy crap. I have a lot of NJ cases they need to be checked against. First and foremost to me is Jan Cotta.

    I hope that they release where he lived in NJ and was known to frequent. If he did just find these bones, then there may be more out there in that area.

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    I have not found where he lived in NJ but I did read he had a wife buried in NJ.
    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaraOwl View Post
    Holy crap. I have a lot of NJ cases they need to be checked against. First and foremost to me is Jan Cotta.

    I hope that they release where he lived in NJ and was known to frequent. If he did just find these bones, then there may be more out there in that area.

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    I noticed in this case http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...e-Dec-88/page8. The bones were dated back to 1973 I believe.
    there were remains found but then also one flip flop and one child's shoe but no bones... I wonder if the bones in the box are the bones that belong to the extra shoes?

    Quote Originally Posted by KaylaraOwl View Post
    Holy crap. I have a lot of NJ cases they need to be checked against. First and foremost to me is Jan Cotta.

    I hope that they release where he lived in NJ and was known to frequent. If he did just find these bones, then there may be more out there in that area.

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    I'm sure they have ways of ruling things like this out, and I'm sure they already did, but perhaps they're bones used for medical study? A friend of mine in med school had a really old box full of human bones. His had little number's on them, that matched up with a key, so you could identify which bone was which, but maybe these are so old, or the man rook off the numbers.
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