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  • John and/or Patsy Ramsey

    104 53.33%
  • Burke Ramsey

    4 2.05%
  • A friend of the Ramsey's that they covered for

    11 5.64%
  • an intruder

    76 38.97%

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  1. #1
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    POLL: Has the DNA evidence changed your theory on who killed Jonbenet?

    In light of the new DNA evidence, who do you believe killed Jonbenet?
    Justice for Jonbenet!

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    This should be interesting.
    The DNA evidence did nothing to change my belief that Patsy killed JBR when in a fit of rage and John helped cover it up.

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    Hi Philamena....my theory has not changed.
    Justice for Jonbenet!

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    Before - I figured the parents were possible, but I leaned towards an intruder - not strong either way. Now - it's an intruder. Not impossible to have parental involvement - but without evidence of that (and I know the evidence - it is well short of showing their involvement - all of it has innocent interpretations or is too vague) - I do not believe it. It's never really rang true to me.

    I've been right and wrong on these cases, but more often right than wrong. The Couey case - before he was found, I never did think her father or grandfather were responsible for Jessica's disappearance. This one - LE lied from the start, which set up the adversarial relationship. Ransom notes and pineapple are part of the stuff that in a court case we never ever find out why and how they happened unless the killer decides to reveal what happened. It could be so many things that are not the parents. Family friend, charismatic stranger, or stun gun. So many options.

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    I've always respected and been swayed by the posters who believe the Ramseys were responsible, but felt that there are strangers who can be crazy and cunning enough to pull off something like this. At times I've leaned more towards a pedophile intruder than Patsy Ramsey, but just wasn't sure. Now I think it was most likely an intruder who somehow knew the family or a total stranger who targetted JonBenet awhile before the crime.

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    don't be fooled.that's exactly what the R's and Lacy want everyone to think.this case has always been a fine example of one of the largest cover-ups in US history.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    I didn't have a theory. I tried reading some early on but opinions by experts countered each other. I entertained both theories equally; intruder v. parents. I felt like it was unknowable from all the countering I read. I felt I had no choice but to accept that I couldn't know. It never came to trial, not enough evidence to indict anyone, nothing entered into evidence in a court of law, no judge, no jury, no defendant, no sworn witnesses. I do feel like the initial da bungled it and set up a whirlwind of them v. us camps that spiraled down a road to nowhere. I thought that was a shame for such an innocent little baby girl.

    If the evidence that came out today is true, I have no choice but to believe whoever killed the child is an unknown. I voted intruder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMO8778 View Post
    don't be fooled.that's exactly what the R's and Lacy want everyone to think.this case has always been a fine example of one of the largest cover-ups in US history.
    You're proof people do think with independent minds. Just because all may not share your opinion doesn't mean you shouldn't allot them the same permission you give yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMO8778 View Post
    don't be fooled.that's exactly what the R's and Lacy want everyone to think.this case has always been a fine example of one of the largest cover-ups in US history.
    A cover up because.......................?????

    So often times it happens that we live our life in chains, and we never even know we have the key. ...Eagles, "Already Gone"

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    Child molestation, murder, and political corruption.


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    RR, don't leave out 'personal gain', both in a pathetic attempt to repair a publically humiliated reputation and in 'cash in the pocket'. I'll kiss your grits if there is not a book deal in all of this mess!

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    Too bad there wasn't "None of the above" on that poll. I've always believed that it was an intruder but that it was someone the Ramseys knew or were acquaintenances. However I don't believe the Ramseys covered for anyone.

    I'm amazed that there are so many people who WANT the Ramseys to be guilty, even if it is finally proven they aren't!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poco View Post
    A cover up because.......................?????
    The Ramsey's didn't want to go to prison ........

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    Pepper, just to explain my personal position. I do not "want" family members to be guilty. I came into this case as a fence sitter. I explored the IDI possibilities every which way to Sunday... Actually, I sincerely hoped to find a logical way that an intruder could have committed this crime. I posted various intruder theories, but when you combine all of the evidence, the R's just kept casting themselves into the middle of the melting pot.

    I can't speak definatively for other posters here, but I sincerely feel that many RDI's came to the same conclusion which I did, in virtually the same way that I did: based on the totality of the evidence.

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    makes me think a bit more

    Although I believe I have never posted a complete theory in forum about how and why the murder happened or who took part in it, I did have a theory that I was working on and the pieces seemed to fit. The new DNA evidence released has not messed up that theory but it has reminded me to rethink all the possibilities involved. I think that is a good thing because I would not want to become complacent.

    I now have 2 competing theories in mind. Both introduce an unknown person into the picture. Theory one involves 3 people and theory two currently involves only one person. But that person in theory two had left some very telling evidence behind in a way because the ransom note disclosed that he had overheard things he should not have been able to overhear (over a period of many days or weeks) and that can help focus L.E. on where to look for culprits and possibly at which person to look.

    BTK (not involved in the ramsey case but used as an example here) was known to have hidden in his victims house often in a closet and listened to them in their normal routines and then later one day would pop out at a time they were not expecting it and kill them. But that meant he had a way into those homes. In his case he had installed the security devices in some of the homes of his victims and that was his means of entry but he had knowledge of their every day routines from observing them and listening to them, from within their own homes sometimes.
    If BTK had written a ransome note that showed detailed knowledge of the movies the people he murdered had watched and showed a knowledge of the bonus a family member earned at work but discussed at home then it might have tipped off L.E. to look for a reason as to how someone gained such knowledge and that might have alerted them to his method of operation and thus led to his discovery sooner.

    It might be possible that L. E. will be finally able to narrow things down if it should turn out this truly was a one man operation.

    So has the DNA changed my thoughts on who did the crime? Well, untold theory number one is still my favorite but the DNA findings being released did make me rethink the possibilities and theory number two which mostly involves a BTK type of stalker/killer whose ransom letter may have been more of a taunting flaunt of his intimate knowledge of the family to L.E. than anything else, (Sort of like saying "This is a clue as to how I did this and who I am but you are too stupid to figure it out."), is an interesting alternative to my main theory.

    I will say that I believe this probably was never ever a true kidnap-for-ransom plot. To me it seems that the object was to do what was done to the child and the letter served its own purpose and that bit holds true in both my theories.

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