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    Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #13

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    I am sad such a tragedy is bringing us all together.

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    Thank You for all your hard work Christine & you are so right.

    Another link to info to rehash & remind

    This is a rush transcript from "On the Record ," June 16, 2008.
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66471

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,368022,00.html

    ROSSER: They left somewhere around 4:30, maybe a little after in the afternoon, walked across this road here. And they walked down here to about a couple hundred yards, maybe 300 yards. That's where Mr. Placker found the girls later this afternoon.
    RITTBERG: What kind of traffic does this street get?
    ROSSER: If you turn back east, you go about two miles to a little community of Bryant. And this is a major--a good connector road between this community of Bryant and Weleetka. So, yes, quite a bit of traffic here. Again, I don't know how heavy it is, but there's quite a bit of traffic.
    RITTBERG: And what evidence was found near the bodies?
    ROSSER: Well, I can't disclose that at this time.
    RITTBERG All the evidence that was taken from the crime scene is pretty much from this dirt road onto the ditch where they were found?
    ROSSER: Yes. Now north and south of this area, as you can see. There's tire impressions. Anything that was distinguishable the might be used for identification, they went ahead and photographed and documented the tire prints.
    There was some shoe prints found in the dirt around here. They went ahead and documented those.
    RITTBERG We're driving on this dirt road. It's quite hard to find. It is very much off the beaten track. Is that why police are assuming it was someone local, because they knew how to get in and out?
    ROSSER: Yes. And, if you'll notice, the area is partially populated. Most of this is agricultural or heavily wooded. So for someone to come off the Interstate or something like that, a transient or somebody just passing through, if they got down here it would be hard to find their way out
    ROSSER: I don't know. Just guessing, we probably had several hundred--between 200 and 300 or so, probably.
    I guess you could look at the progress involved in collecting these leads and following them out is like panning for gold. The old miners used to sift so much soil and everything to come up with that one nugget, and that's what we're doing. We're trying to look for that one nugget or that one piece of the puzzle that will put it all together for us.
    RITTBERG: Do you feel confident that among all these leads something is going to come in.
    ROSSER: We'll know who it is. We'll identify the guy. It may take a little while but we'll know who it is.
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    Here is the sketch Harvey Pratt did of the killer of Tammy Harjo:

    http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/20...rder_Case.html

    Compare it to the actual killer they caught because of his sketch:

    http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/20...er_Arrest.html

    The face is the right width. Everything is in proportion. The lips are perfect. HP is the best in the biz and I trust that when we find finally see the POI...it will look almost exactly like him.

    Byrd's face is rounded and much wider. So many things just don't match up to the sketch. The length, the width, and other things. Not him and is the reason they are not holding him. (Do you guys honestly believe everything you read on Topix? Who verified this Steve who proclaims to be LE?)
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    This article is dated June 13, 2008, the same day OSBI came out with the POI sketch.

    Snip...

    Brown has described the man as American Indian, 6-feet-tall with brown eyes and a long black ponytail. Witnesses said the man was seen standing outside his truck on the county road where the girls were later found dead. Brown said witnesses told investigators that truck was blocking the road around the time of the shooting and the man was standing outside the truck. About six witnesses have given the same account, Brown said.


    http://www.newsok.com/article/3256954/

    I watched this PC and I don't remember OSBI ever saying he was part Caucasian or of European decent. The first I saw of that was when Fox did their article that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Who verified this Steve who proclaims to be LE?
    I'd like to know about this too. How much sleuthing have ya done to see if this is legit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Here is the sketch Harvey Pratt did of the killer of Tammy Harjo:

    http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/20...rder_Case.html

    Compare it to the actual killer they caught because of his sketch:

    http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/20...er_Arrest.html

    The face is the right width. Everything is in proportion. The lips are perfect. HP is the best in the biz and I trust that when we find finally see the POI...it will look almost exactly like him.

    Byrd's face is rounded and much wider. So many things just don't match up to the sketch. The length, the width, and other things. Not him and is the reason they are not holding him. (Do you guys honestly believe everything you read on Topix? Who verified this Steve who proclaims to be LE?)
    Was the information for the sketch given by one eye witness or several?

    I noticed he favored him somewhat but the real perp looked much younger in real life than the sketch.

    imoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    I'd like to know about this too. How much sleuthing have ya done to see if this is legit?
    All I know is he must be legit. He gave all the details, even that a bond hearing was to occur at 3:00pm yesterday and then someone put up a link later on that showed that Byrd had been bonded out yesterday. I cant remember if a poster brought the link over here showing that he made bond though.

    imoo
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    Tulsa, I'm reposting your bridge map here! I thought it was a great map!

    Find bridges with this interactive map.

    http://usbridgemap.com/


    Christine, Steven was legit! I can't expose my source to tell you how I know, but he was legit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Here is the sketch Harvey Pratt did of the killer of Tammy Harjo:

    http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/20...rder_Case.html

    Compare it to the actual killer they caught because of his sketch:

    http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/20...er_Arrest.html

    The face is the right width. Everything is in proportion. The lips are perfect. HP is the best in the biz and I trust that when we find finally see the POI...it will look almost exactly like him.

    Byrd's face is rounded and much wider. So many things just don't match up to the sketch. The length, the width, and other things. Not him and is the reason they are not holding him. (Do you guys honestly believe everything you read on Topix? Who verified this Steve who proclaims to be LE?)

    Sorry, but I would never recognize the suspect from that drawing. The shape of the face is different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    Was the information for the sketch given by one eye witness or several?

    I noticed he favored him somewhat but the real perp looked much younger in real life than the sketch.


    imoo
    I agree, and in the sketch the face/forehead is wider, and the chin stronger.
    imo
    There is a resemblance....the same look (hair/eye color & hair style same skin tone etc), but noway the face is the same width and shape.
    Again, this is the best you get with sketch artists...an over all look, but not 100% accuracy.


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    6-13 -fox news possibly having European heritage

    http://two.crimeshadows.com/poi.htm
    Person of Interest Description:
    American Indian --possibly part Caucasian
    Approximately six feet tall, slender build
    Black hair tied in a pony tail
    Clothing at the time of sighting:
    Blue or gray long-sleeve shirt
    Faded jeans
    Black baseball cap
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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,366464,00.html
    Friday, June 13, 2008

    He is described as a 6-foot American Indian man, possibly having European heritage, about 35 years old, with long black hair pulled into a ponytail.

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    Clip from http://newsok.com/article3256335


    "Still no suspects
    Three days later, the families of both of the victims don't know much more than they did that first night.
    In a news conference Wednesday, Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation agent Ben Rosser said investigators are trying to find children who talked to the girls often and knew their habits.

    "We're talking to young people because the victims were young,” Rosser said. "We've got leads, and we're talking to their friends, but a lot of people are harder to find than others.”

    Earlier Wednesday, investigators said two guns were used in the killings.

    Jimmy Farrow said he'd been told that the first night.

    "They said there was a high-powered weapon and a low-powered weapon,” Jimmy Farrow said. "One of the TV stations showed shell casings piled up in the road where it happened.”

    I hate to beat a dead horse, but to me shell casings piled up in the road where it happened mean one of the guns was probably a shotgun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Here is the sketch Harvey Pratt did of the killer of Tammy Harjo:

    http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/20...rder_Case.html

    Compare it to the actual killer they caught because of his sketch:

    http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Press_Room/20...er_Arrest.html

    The face is the right width. Everything is in proportion. The lips are perfect. HP is the best in the biz and I trust that when we find finally see the POI...it will look almost exactly like him.

    Byrd's face is rounded and much wider. So many things just don't match up to the sketch. The length, the width, and other things. Not him and is the reason they are not holding him. (Do you guys honestly believe everything you read on Topix? Who verified this Steve who proclaims to be LE?)

    The drawing and picture you provided dont look a bit alike if you ask me. The drawing looks like a much older man. sry
    Again, the artist can only go by what someone remembers. I think Byrd and POI are almost identical. JMOAO

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    I have a co-worker, who lives in the area that stated the day following the murders, "if it were me I would be looking close, very close for the suspects." I am not sure who she was referring to and if the statement implied that family, aquaintences, or neighbors were involved.
    Also in reference to a post by Seriously Searching, You are kidding, Right? OSBI is not nor has ever been that politically correct!! This is Oklahoma.
    OSBI may or may not be "politically incorrect". But as an Oklahoma resident I find that comment offensive. If it was not meant derogatory towards our state then my apologies. I personally feel that stepping out of the realm of "politically correct" is oftentimes commendable and this may have been SS's intended implication.

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    [quote=YellowDog;2394636]Clip from http://newsok.com/article3256335


    "Still no suspects
    Three days later, the families of both of the victims don't know much more than they did that first night.
    Earlier Wednesday, investigators said two guns were used in the killings.

    Jimmy Farrow said he'd been told that the first night.

    "They said there was a high-powered weapon and a low-powered weapon, Jimmy Farrow said. "One of the TV stations showed shell casings piled up in the road where it happened.

    I hate to beat a dead horse, but to me shell casings piled up in the road where it happened mean one of the guns was probably a shotgun.[/quote]
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    Wrong wrong wrong ...Automatic weapons spit out casings also. I know this because I go to the range every Sunday.
    Last edited by GetSmart; 07-18-2008 at 10:39 PM. Reason: ETA link not working?

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