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    Quote Originally Posted by absolut View Post
    I think because Amy had come back midday she was still considered to be on "vacation". So for Amy real life would pick up on the 16th. Casey didn't realize that Amy would find out about the checks and all so quickly. Or what the next 12 hours held for her either.
    I seem to always agree with absolut..... LOL you are one smart person! Anyhoo...

    You hit on what I have only just begun to realize...that casey was not prepared for how fast this was going to go down. She did not think amy would find out so quickly about the theft, that her car had been sent back to daddy (I bet she never thought ahead to those small details that businesses will tow a car since she never had a job), that her mother would actually call the cops and not believe her nanny lie. She was caught completely off guard (eeehheeemm...clears throat...thanks to gma...ok I said it).

    And it fits that her lies escalated just like our new poster has talked about with her own son that has the same issues with lying. She backed herself into a complete corner.

    So what she said in that arrest afadavit...they are all lies. But they have to be based on something that she knows from somewhere. LE will untangle it all...

    They need to work with a psychiatrist or forensic psychologist who can in turn work with the family to unravel the lies. (and with friends as well)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reannan View Post
    Yep, Mohabi, you hit it on the head. Cindy nurtured Casey. Cindy created a daughter that is capable of lying like Casey. I have no respect for that. None. Zippo. Nadda. None. I have an 18 year old daughter who is wonderful beyond belief. I kicked her out of the house a few weeks ago - because she LIED to me. Harsh??? Yes, it was...and I am still sorry for my actions. I let her come back home the next day. She had gone to the beach with some friends who she was graduating with, and I found out they stayed some place different than what she had told me. Totally stupid, but the principle is - SHE LIED TO ME!!! I went what I call "going psycho" on her. Not something to be proud of, but it is learned behavior. It is exactly what I would have received from my parents if I had lied to them. Lying is totally taboo in my family. Lying and bad attitudes are the ONLY thing that will make me chop your head off. What I am witnessing in this current situation with Caylee, is a situation where lying is the norm. THAT is so wrong on so many levels, and is a perfect recipe for disaster - which is what we are dealing with - a missing child and a family that is so comfortable with lies that they believe them theirselves. When pressed up against the wall, they revert to what is a stupid lie that is unbelievable to anyone but theirselves. This is a perfect example of a tragic not-so-comedy. Nothing is funny here. Everything is twisted and stupid. Again - give me five minutes alone with Mom or GM.
    Don't be sorry for your actions. You made your point with your daughter and the point stands because it was RIGHT.

    As for the people in question in this thread (Casie and Caylee), they seem to be living in such an alternate reality that I just can't follow them. Should you need help in those five minutes alone with Mom or GM, let me know. We might get their feet back on the ground so they know again what is REALLY going on. A child is missing. It's about the child, not them. Someone needs to slam their fist on the table and end this incredible charade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leila View Post
    The friends have probably been told by LE not to talk to the media. We saw Amy's reaction when reporters showed up........she kept saying she couldn't talk about the case and kept trying to close the door. It was video-taped and brief.
    Actually, she probably does have information material to the case and seems to be keeping her mouth shut about it since her visit from LE.

    Another discouraging day. Good night, all.


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    Good night. May our dreams give us inspiration to unravel this sad tale.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CheckDaFacts View Post
    Sorry my questions and thoughts might be off point, I keep having to log back on? If you pm ******, he could probably explain how to prevent that from happening to you!

    Where did all of Caylee's personal items go? She had to have had toys and numerous articles of clothing with being gone so long. Great question! All we heard they found in the vehicle was the carseat. Nothing about personal items. Great question!!

    Any description from what she was wearing the day Casey left her with the alleged nanny? The last time she was seen she was wearing a blue and pink outfit and white-rimmed sunglasses. http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/257541

    Has a drawing been constructed of the alleged nanny from Casey's prior description and her clothing? Law Enforcement (LE) has not released any information to say this has happened, but we have not seen any sketch or heard of one.

    The case is a missing person case and at any time the case can take an added new twist, such as now a death investigation now looking like a potential homicide. There is plenty not yet privy to the public. I agree!

    GMA wants her belief in Casey to be real. Attacking the Detective's for Casey's sake is not helping to find Caylee. Cutting off the Judge didn't help her either. Cindy may want to believe in her daughter, but she is truly alienating those who are willing to help find her grandchild in the process.

    GMA knows this is more than a missing but keeps trying to spin it around only one way.... back to defending Casey's reputation. In the meanwhile the missing of Caylee is being taken serious by law enforcement, they have to follow all leads and I'm sure their heads are also spinning. Casey do that right thing by your daughter, talk the truth. Facts please!
    Her daughter's reputation didn't have far to go to tank, if you ask me. Cindy wants to believe the "perfect family" she created in her mind is still intact and wants to project this to the world at all cost, imo. She needs to wake up to the fact that their reputation is the last thing that matters now. Finding that darling baby is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Where did anyone get the idea she OD'd Caylee? I haven't seen any reference to this and I honestly don't believe it happened.

    Constructively, if there is any hope in getting to the truth in this case...we should be concentrating on places she could have taken Caylee after she put her in the trunk. There are no searches that we know of taking place to find her. We would have to begin at Cindy's house until the car was found at Amscot on Goldenrod and Colonial on June 27th. I would like to see some organized searches out looking for this child!!
    ss..read back from around thread 5 or 6 to geez...it was discussed quite a bit and quite in depth. One poster linked that xanax is called a ZANNY. There were a lot of posts on it and, in my opinion, it was not out of question. Zanny the Nanny. I know it is sick. but anything is possible here and there were so many hours this kid was with her mom at parties... anyhoo.. that is where it is coming from.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nursebeeme View Post
    lol...all body fluids including blood, etc, contain the two enzymes putricine and cadaverine in a dead body...beit saliva, blood, etc... they are not separate fluids
    i just wanted to know if it was blood or the 'etc' that they found. i'm sure if they found blood they would have stated it was blood. if it's not blood then it must be fluid from the breakdown of flesh.

    i found my answer though thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Where did anyone get the idea she OD'd Caylee? I haven't seen any reference to this and I honestly don't believe it happened.

    Constructively, if there is any hope in getting to the truth in this case...we should be concentrating on places she could have taken Caylee after she put her in the trunk. There are no searches that we know of taking place to find her. We would have to begin at Cindy's house until the car was found at Amscot on Goldenrod and Colonial on June 27th. I would like to see some organized searches out looking for this child!!
    i did actually start a thread on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busylady View Post
    I think Casey could of been posting from her boyfriends house? Cindy spoke to Amy to find out where Casey was, and Cindy went and got Casey.

    Why would Cass feel safe at Amy's boyfriends house, yet she claimed she was worried about where Caylee went and says nothing? Why would Amy's boyfriend allow her to hang there so long, boy her friends seem flaky. Did he not have a job? Was this not Amy's boyfriend and not Cass's boyfriend? Wonder if Amy called GMA and told her about the stolen funds on top of GMA receiving a tow car letter? I really think GMA was angry about the car and possibly Amy's loss and that is really why she showed up, she then realized Caylee was not with Cass. Shame Cass could look her mother in the eye and continue to lie about her own daughter Caylee. That is not worry or concern.

    How can all of her friends fall for the nanny bit for so long? Unless nanny was cece (GMA) in their minds. How did Caylee reference GMA to Cass's slew of friends, was it really CeCe or Nanny? Wonder if Cass has a split personalitiy? She had to have been given a drug test in jail.


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    Quote Originally Posted by STEADFAST View Post
    Not necessarily. Xanax will often remove some social inhibitions, causing a person to say out loud what they think of someone else, for instance. Also, it can make a person act impulsively -- making up information without thinking through the consequences of statements. I think it's possible that Xanax explains some of Cindy's behavior and statements, considering the situation she's in. (What exactly that situation is, I'm not at all sure.)
    Thanks Steadfast!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyM View Post
    i did actually start a thread on this.
    Thanks!! I will go check it out!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyM View Post
    i just wanted to know if it was blood or the 'etc' that they found. i'm sure if they found blood they would have stated it was blood. if it's not blood then it must be fluid from the breakdown of flesh.

    i found my answer though thanks.
    you found a link for if the stain was blood? I read your other post, tho, about the breakdown of proteins producing the two byproducts (which are enzymes) p and c. Thanks for reposting that. I am not trying to ther_beatingA_Deadlol..I just thought you didn;t understand the science part of it...and being a nurse I was just trying to explain. Sorry in advance!


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    I think the babysitter story would hold some amount of truth if Casey had a job.

    So I believe since nothing of Caylee's is missing she died or was killed on June 16th and buried in the backyard probably under the playhouse. Casey avoided but kept tabs on the house and gma and gpa whereabouts and knew when they were going on vacation or when they would be away. Then they locked the shed on her and she had to borrow a shovel to move Caylee to the trunk. From there who can be sure where Casey headed, but Jacksonville 140 miles away with a already decomposing body would affect the trunk. (weekend of 21-22nd would fit) alone is a possibility (jeff hopkins going is probably another lie) and then the car left at the Amscot on the 27th. Got a ride from the Amscot probably from Amy and went on with her life avoiding gma and the house. This theory basically dumps the call from Jesse to Casey on the 24th. Something caused an instant behavior change in Casey on the 16th. No more interaction with gma in person no clothes for the kid nothing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyM View Post
    i did actually start a thread on this.
    awesome! thank you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyM View Post
    i did actually start a thread on this.

    Where can I find your thread?


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