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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    Completely uncalled for, and a blatant attack on the founder of one of the world's major religions. Not art, an attack and attempt to embarass our Lord and Savior. If that were mohammed, that gallery would be in flames, right now.
    It cracked me up! But you are right. In a way. I don't feel it was so much an attack as an attention getter for the artist. Yes if it were Mohammed the whole gallery would be burned down by now.
    It is Christ with a penis. No reason, he is wearing a robe, it is too upset people. Don't give this crap artist the time of day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dontpanic38 View Post
    anneinchicago, Thank you so much! You said exactly what I wanted to. What I find troubling is that the people screaming for laws to police "their" definition of what is or isn't art don't realize that the laws will eventually include their art.

    Personally I believe that religion has done more damage and caused more suffering than any art. I find it offensive that anyone feels that their religious belief qualifies them to tell me anything.
    It's also ended more suffering, served far more needy, comforted more dying, and done more good than most anything or anyone else. Hopefully that offends you, as well.



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    10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord. (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    It's also ended more suffering, served far more needy, comforted more dying, and done more good than most anything or anyone else. Hopefully that offends you, as well.
    I do not know where to begin or where to stop. Religion causes more deaths and suffering than any other cause. The art was stupid. Let the artist go down as an attention grabber. Jesus and God are works of fiction created by man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by becklynn View Post
    I do not know where to begin or where to stop. Religion causes more deaths and suffering than any other cause. The art was stupid. Let the artist go down as an attention grabber. Jesus and God are works of fiction created by man.
    Words can't describe the ignorance of that post. Your second sentence is nothing more than a typical athiest talking point, at best. Obviously I disagree with your last sentence.



    Deuteronomy 18:10-12 (KJV)

    10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord. (KJV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    It's also ended more suffering, served far more needy, comforted more dying, and done more good than most anything or anyone else. Hopefully that offends you, as well.

    You are talking about Art right?

    None of those things apply to religion in my book. Helping the needy and ending suffering are not things that religion do. People do those things, and the people who have contributed through history to do good things for humankind typically have done those things through science and medicine.

    My brother should have been a pro hockey player, but instead he came home from Iraq with one arm and only two working fingers. He would have died from the wounds had they happened in a past war, and he has been able to play hockey thanks to science.
    His belief in God took him to war, and that after coming back he sees what a perversion Religion is. Not God, but the people who do things in God's name.

    Personally I think that the only organized religion I have ever seen that is worth anything are the Amish. I think everyone could learn a thing or two from them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    Words can't describe the ignorance of that post. Your second sentence is nothing more than a typical athiest talking point, at best. Obviously I disagree with your last sentence.
    Oh My DarkNight. I was really stunned at your reply. Honestly I laughed. I guess that is a typical Athesist thing. Anyway, I appreciate your posts, I respect you and your religion and I refuse to argue over some dumb butt that made fun of Jesus. We both can at least agree about that. I hope.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight View Post
    Words can't describe the ignorance of that post. Your second sentence is nothing more than a typical athiest talking point, at best. Obviously I disagree with your last sentence.

    As yours are typical Christian talking points...

    I do think that this thread illustrates how pointless arguing is.
    I do go out of my way to not get into a religious debate with people because I have no interest in what you believe in. My problem is that the religious do gooders feel that it is their obligation to try to convince anyone who doesn't agree, or to change anything that questions the religion.

    The way I see it is there are plenty of people sitting on Death Row who are ready to accept God, and according to Christians, they are just as forgiven as anyone else.
    I however, will burn in Hell because I believe that the Bible is a historical book with typical fact stretching and bending that happens any time a historical document is written by many people over hundreds of years, and absolutely was never meant to be taken literally.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dontpanic38 View Post
    You are talking about Art right?

    None of those things apply to religion in my book. Helping the needy and ending suffering are not things that religion do. People do those things, and the people who have contributed through history to do good things for humankind typically have done those things through science and medicine.

    My brother should have been a pro hockey player, but instead he came home from Iraq with one arm and only two working fingers. He would have died from the wounds had they happened in a past war, and he has been able to play hockey thanks to science.
    His belief in God took him to war, and that after coming back he sees what a perversion Religion is. Not God, but the people who do things in God's name.

    Personally I think that the only organized religion I have ever seen that is worth anything are the Amish. I think everyone could learn a thing or two from them.
    This post moved my heart like no other. Tell your brother I am against the war but I so respect him for going to Iraq. Your post has made me cry. He is a great man. I think God is only in our hearts, it is a conscience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by becklynn View Post
    This post moved my heart like no other. Tell your brother I am against the war but I so respect him for going to Iraq. Your post has made me cry. He is a great man. I think God is only in our hearts, it is a conscience.
    Thank you, I will pass this on to him. I forgot to add that his injuries were from an IED that hit his HumV and he was driving. He got the majority of the blast but their convoy was also attacked immediately after the blast and while he was being pulled out of the wreckage, a bullet apparently caught his helmet. Either the bullet was a riccochet and was slowed down or those helmets are damn strong because they found the bullet inside the helmet and he had bruises from where it bounced around before embedding inside the liner....

    Again, I am agnostic, not athiest, so I do beleive that someone or something was looking out for him in a major way.
    When he left for Iraq I was struck by the fact that he was standing in full dress, but he is a Kid! I am only 32, but those guys over there average around 20 and a lot are much younger.
    He is a totally different person since coming home, and what is really funny is that I look up to him in a way that I never would have imagined.
    I can not see the dumb little punk he was before becoming one of my heros...


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    Quote Originally Posted by becklynn View Post
    Oh My DarkNight. I was really stunned at your reply. Honestly I laughed. I guess that is a typical Athesist thing. Anyway, I appreciate your posts, I respect you and your religion and I refuse to argue over some dumb butt that made fun of Jesus. We both can at least agree about that. I hope.
    I also have a lot of respect for you and your posts, and I will agree with you that the artist is a dumb butt, LOL!



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    I am really disturbed by some of these posts. I find this statue very offensive to my religion and I want it destroyed. Religion has not caused most of the suffering in this world. Racism, xenophobia, intolerance, fear, the need for scapegoats and ignorance justified by twisted religious beliefs are what has caused suffering and war throughout history. Just because many people believe in their faiths, including myself, doesn't mean they are trying to dictate to others how they should and shouldn't live. You will find extremists in any organisation or cause who will give it a bad name. Just because I and many other Christians want this statue gone not mean that I am gathering together a group of Christian extremists and trying to establish a religious based Orwellian censorship campaign. I don't see why anyone has the right to create or view something that deliberately spits at other people's beliefs just because they happen to be religious ones. Religion is very important to millions of people and has been a comfort during times of hardship. Many people consider their belief in God as an integral part of who they are so to sneer at religion as 'perverse' is extremely insulting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciara View Post
    We dont have the same laws regarding free speech here as you do there. The country was almost split in half over the muslim cartoons.
    That statue would not have been allowed here if it was any other religion but it seems Christianity is fair game.

    No offence but I have no idea why anyone would WANT to see that statue.

    Its not art in my eyes and when someone makes it, they just know its going to cause offence. I think its distasteful, ignorant and unnecessary and to me its also blasphemous.

    I respect your points though
    I understand your opinion Ciara, and I wouldnt want to go see something like that either, but as an artist I do have to say that art is an epression of the artists feelings or imagination. no one makes a big deal about these rap songs that are offensive to women, and yet when religion is involved there is a big deal? dont get me wrong I am a follower fo Christ, but I feel that as offensive as something can be through your eyes, we dont know what the artist was feeling or thinking when creating this and no matter what it is still art, and he has right to let his art work be exhibited.
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    I was gazing upon the statue and trying to figure out where his hips would be, etc. Anotomically, he'd have to be hung like a horse to cause the tent to appear where it does. Certainly isn't the "man's own image and likeness" going on there. (Unless it was modeled after John Holmes.)

    I wouldn't appreciate it as an artful display I'd want in my home (Mona Lisa, either), but neither am I offended by it. I don't offend easily. The crucifixes that doubled as bobs I saw online several years ago... I was offended by. (BOBS = Battery operated Boyfriends)
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    Let's set aside the question of what is art, the right to free speech/expression, etc. for a moment...

    I doubt if those upset by this will take this as a serious question, but it is. Really.

    Why are you upset by this? Mary, his mother had a vagina. Jesus was the son of God created to look like God's human creation. Are you somehow assuming he did not have a penis? Why? And why does the idea of Jesus having one so upsetting?

    Would you be equally upset if it was a depiction of Jess going to the bathroom? Are you somehow also assuming he didn't have any bodily functions?


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