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    Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion # 18

    Please continue GENERAL discussions here. Look around Caylee has a sub forum, there are several threads started on specific topics to try and stay organized

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    #17 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68025

    #16 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68010

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    Thanks Nicole! I hope a mod has been asked to close thread #17.

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    yep Deb I got that covered thanks for the reminder!



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    Why does Lee, Casey's brother have Tony's phone number????

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    Quote Originally Posted by saqqara View Post
    Good morning all

    I've been hesitating to say this, but here I go.

    I looked at the link with all the pictures of Casey and I thought. . . wow this is not as "bad" as I thought given everyone's posts.

    (respectfully snipped)

    Did you look at the dates on all the pictures?

    I put them all into one place

    http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...and/?start=all
    Having teenagers, they're not very different than what I've seen (minus all the gang stuff...tattoos...and such).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    Why does Lee, Casey's brother have Tony's phone number????
    Hey, I asked that question a couple of days ago and never really got an answer that I'm comfortable with. It's a question I would have asked the brother in that interview.

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    Why does Lee, Casey's brother have Tony's phone number?

    Why did Casey call Jesse either on the 24 or 25th of June saying she was free that weekend when Casey was dating Tony?

    Why did Jesse resign from the Orlando police force?

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    You're welcome. I tried to PM you but you are not accepting PM's.

    Who is the mod for this case?

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    It wasn't the first time that she used her parents credit cards or even got credit cards in their names IMO. If you check orange county records you will see where CC's in small amounts went into default in the fathers name and then they were paid off. I have known of a friend who had no idea his wife was running up cards in his name in small amounts until she was no longer able to pay for them, they went into default and he was served with papers to go to small claims courts.

    These parents have, imo, ignored the signs that this girl has had problems for a long, long time.
    Yesterday I saw an interview with George in which he stated "I told my parents somethings that weren't true when I was her age, all kids do this." HELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO.

    These parents have the worst case of denial I have ever witnessed. Period.

    When they first realized she was running up charges on cc's they should have put a stop to that. Outrageous behavior by both them and their daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    Why does Lee, Casey's brother have Tony's phone number????
    lee retrieved Tony's number from Casey's cell phone as she asked him to do in her call.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SewingDeb View Post
    You're welcome. I tried to PM you but you are not accepting PM's.

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    No idea who the mod is. I just unblocked PMs



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    It wasn't the first time that she used her parents credit cards or even got credit cards in their names IMO. If you check orange county records you will see where CC's in small amounts went into default in the fathers name and then they were paid off. I have known of a friend who had no idea his wife was running up cards in his name in small amounts until she was no longer able to pay for them, they went into default and he was served with papers to go to small claims courts.

    These parents have, imo, ignored the signs that this girl has had problems for a long, long time.
    Yesterday I saw an interview with George in which he stated "I told my parents somethings that weren't true when I was her age, all kids do this." HELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO.

    These parents have the worst case of denial I have ever witnessed. Period.

    When they first realized she was running up charges on cc's they should have put a stop to that. Outrageous behavior by both them and their daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    Why does Lee, Casey's brother have Tony's phone number????
    My point of view would be that Lee and Casey both partied at the same clubs and such. I don't see it odd that Lee would have his number. It also isn't strange at all to me for Casey to not know Tony's number, that's the downfall to being a cell phone user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texasgirl View Post
    Hi all!

    I thought it was really interesting that they will be holding a benefit to raise money for a search. First of all, why waste time planning a benefit instead of searching? I just truly do not understand the logic here. What search are they raising money for? They need to stop talking and start searching. Stop planning benefits and raising money and get their butts out there to search for Caylee.

    IMO, Cindy and George and Lee and whoever else need to stop worrying about MONEY (bail money, lawyer fee money, search money, fund money, etc.) and SEARCH FOR THAT LITTLE GIRL! This is really starting to tick me off...

    Thanks for letting me rant....I needed that.
    Most people will volunteer for a search, there are also CERTIFIED SAR dog people who volunteer their time and dog.....I would not send a dime.
    People usually VOLUNTEER to go out and search. All you have to do is ask the public and lots of people will show up. I couldnt, Id freak out if during a search I stumbled on a 3 yr old remains but at this point, I am surprised the Police havent confiscated computers and searched a huge area looking for Caylee. IF she has been missing for over 31 days, might not be much to search for left
    For them to try to raise money to pay for Caseys defense fund, I doubt if many people will give money, I for one, dont believe her stories..

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    Thanks Nicole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by liltigress View Post
    My point of view would be that Lee and Casey both partied at the same clubs and such. I don't see it odd that Lee would have his number. It also isn't strange at all to me for Casey to not know Tony's number, that's the downfall to being a cell phone user.
    I agree, if you notice, they have many mutual friends and Lees girlfriend and roommate are friends with Casey. So it seems about the same that he is friends with her boyfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    Why does Lee, Casey's brother have Tony's phone number?

    Why did Casey call Jesse either on the 24 or 25th of June saying she was free that weekend when Casey was dating Tony?

    Why did Jesse resign from the Orlando police force?
    My thought on this Patty is that she spent a lot of time with Tony and if they couldn't reach her on her cellphone she had a backup number and that was Tony's #.

    I think Jesse was her "back-up" guy. He was in love with her and treated her well but apparently she went on with out him. He still cared about her and Caylee and they maintained contact as friends.

    I don't think Jesse is involved. He seems to be just a great guy who happened to fall in love with her.

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    I just wanted to say that the point lostnfound85 made was a good one. Why doesn't she have any pictures of the nanny? Apparently they met clubbing, and she has all those pix of everyone else she partied with. If she knew the nanny for a year and a half there should be a pic of her somewhere in Casey's possesion. *shrug* Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    Why does Lee, Casey's brother have Tony's phone number????
    If Tony called lee, it could be totally innocent. On the kind of phone Ihave, it keeps a call log of everyone who calls me.
    I dont have any suspicions of lee, he seems like the level headed one and he wont take cr*p off of Casey like the rest do.
    Tony might have called Lee trying to locate Casey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiositycat View Post
    My thought on this Patty is that she spent a lot of time with Tony and if they couldn't reach her on her cellphone she had a backup number and that was Tony's #.

    I think Jesse was her "back-up" guy. He was in love with her and treated her well but apparently she went on with out him. He still cared about her and Caylee and they maintained contact as friends.

    I don't think Jesse is involved. He seems to be just a great guy who happened to fall in love with her.

    Casey's mother thought Jesse was the father of Caylee. I wonder if Jesse ever took a paternity test?

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    I was just reading Mike's website, it seems like if he knew anything he'd be the type to turn her in for profit. He's a freelance camera guy, he basically says he hangs out in his truck, waits for news, films it and hustles it to the highest bidder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty G View Post
    Casey's mother thought Jesse was the father of Caylee. I wonder if Jesse ever took a paternity test?
    According to his dad, he did. It's posted here under letter from Reverend I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saqqara View Post
    Good morning all

    I've been hesitating to say this, but here I go.

    I looked at the link with all the pictures of Casey and I thought. . . wow this is not as "bad" as I thought given everyone's posts.

    Again, I would love to think Caylee is alive, it is human nature to want to see the truth in what we want to believe. . .but my instinct tells me the dogs and decomp smell are not easily explained away. . .and I think Casey has not acted normally - mostly the note reporting it.

    However, I don't think her photographs paint that bad of a picture, bear with me. . . yes there are a lot of partying pics, but as I mentioned before I am a professional and a single mother and every second weekend when I don't have my kids I go out. Most of my friends are in the music scene and we go to bars. . .I party. Don't do drugs, don't sleep around - and if I do say so myself I am an incredibly responsbile mother and most times I am the designated driver. However these bands have tonnes of pages on myspace, websites etc. . .I have a huge number of photographic friends in this band - you would see a tonne of pictures of me partying. My "friends" don't post pictures of me and my children and our family time. I do. My family doesn't have myspace or facebook pages. So my tame photos are outnumbered by party pictures. Usually people are drinking in these photos (they are in bars) and tonnes of them involve people giving the finger (personal choice not mine, but hey) and the "horns", which is very common at rock shows etc. Both of which I saw in Caylee's pictures.

    It just doesn't tell the whole story. Sure there's a toilet photo and two girls dancing which is a bit extreme. . . but NOT out of the norm for a 22 year old girl. She is a mother, but she is single. . .and she has obviously be enabled by people in her life. There are also a number of photos of her and Caylee. . . and they are smiling and seem genuinely happy with each other. . .and it makes me sad.

    I'm not saying this means she's innocent. . . I am just commenting that I was surprised by the pictures after having read all the people's posts here about them and that the pictures are the major source of belief she must have a drug habit (aside from alcohol).

    Someday when I get to know people I will allow someone a look at my facebook. Given my pictures - (if they were public) - I think I would be labelled an irresponsible partier and potential drug abuser if I was the one with a child missing, but for now you are going to have to TRUST me that I am not. So would several of my friends and some of them have children as young as 3.

    It's interesting, I am Canadian and I keep reading these posts and trying to remember two things. . .culture and laws are very different in Florida from Canada and that this crowd is closer to my children's age than mine. . and it helps me put some of the things I don't understand in perspective.

    Just another opinion.
    I think your post was fair and I see your point. I have formed an opinion of this girl based on everything that I know of her at this point. She lies to seemingly everyone (friends said she was a pathological liar), she steals from her friends and parents, she seems to party alot - an excessive amount IMO for someone who has the responsibilities of being a mother. She doesn't work, or if she does it seems she has trouble holding down a job. She just seems overall to be very irresponsible as a mother and as a member of society. Again, JMO based on what I know of her so far. Does that mean she's a drug addict? Of course not. I think the drug thing was brought up primarily because its something that unfortunately is very prominent in the club scene and with young people who party alot. That doesn't mean for sure that she takes drugs. However we do know that people who drink or do drugs can have impaired judgement. Which is why I think it's important in this case. If she was under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs, it could explain some of her behavior and possibly lead us to a connection (possibly a drug connection) of what happened to Caylee. I do my best not to judge people and sorry if anything I have said comes across that way. I am just baseing my opinions on the facts in the case as we know them as well as photos I have seen. And IMO Casey is irresponsible, immature, parties way too often and it seems to be the primary focus of her life. As a mother, your child should be your primary focus, PERIOD. Caylee is very clearly not the primary focus of Casey's life IMO. Again, I'm on the outside looking in - her friends/family may have a totally different view of her because they spend time with her and Caylee on a daily basis.

    That being said, I do think you have a point in your email which is that just because a single mother parties on the weekends and drinks, doesn't = a bad mother or a murderer. And you're right about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzette25 View Post
    I just wanted to say that the point lostnfound85 made was a good one. Why doesn't she have any pictures of the nanny? Apparently they met clubbing, and she has all those pix of everyone else she partied with. If she knew the nanny for a year and a half there should be a pic of her somewhere in Casey's possesion. *shrug* Just a thought.
    Absolutely! Casey went to these clubs doing her own "investigation" but none of her friends know ZG. The possibility that ZG doesn't exist is huge.
    The club crowd doesn't know her.
    Casey's friends don't know her.
    Casey's family doesn't know her.
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    Since Cindy Anthony seems to be the voice of her incarcerated daughter, these are some questions that Cindy Anthony could provide answers to:

    1. What family dynamic changed the night of June 15th or June 16th that caused her daughter and her granddaughter to cease staying at their house any night thereafter?

    2. By tracing the money that has been stolen, does it show involvement in Caylee's disappearance (payoffs, transfers)?

    3. Do you have any information TODAY that changes any of the things you wrote in your MySpace posting in your account there on July 3rd?

    4. Do Casey's phone records support any of the things that she has told you and that you are repeating?

    5. If you feel law enforcement is not handling this case the way that you believe they should, have you contacted Texas EquuSearch, The Polly Klaas Foundation, and/or The Jessica Lundsford Foundation?


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