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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    They can be if the prisoner knew he/she was being taped and monitored.

    What I find interesting is that this is being released to the public. I don't think I have ever seen jailhouse videos like these before.

    Salem
    i'm pretty sure that most prisoners, if not all, are informed of their rights (or lack thereof) as prisoners. meaning, the same civil standards don't apply. they monitor all calls and police interviews, your in-person phone calls are monitored and recorded, they check all mailings for contraband. they are not supposed to record or monitor attorney meetings or correspondence, but i doubt strongly that these rules are always strictly followed.

    i thought it was interesting, too, that they released the videos to the public. for one, it made casey aware of the fact that her every word was being recorded and analyzed. but maybe they released it to get people who knew her to come forward. they are working with less than brilliance here, so all they needed was one person to come forward and say "hey i know X who knows Y who knows Patrick and Casey are friends. I dont know why they pretend they dont" Or, I know the Mike that Patrick mentions. Or, "Casey told me that this nanny-tale is just a cover." I don't know, but the only thing i can really get from it is that they were fishing for answers or wanted to display casey in her true form - not some poor defenseless 22 year old whose child was just kidnapped and then the awful, untrustworthy police simply blamed her without cause...


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    Quote Originally Posted by pixies View Post
    I heard it on Fox when the tapes were first released. I'm sure I am not the only one who has.

    How can you put words in someones mouth when they said it themselves?

    IMO, all the lies surronding this case is a direct result of Casey and Grandma telling them. There would be no more lies if they would tell the truth.
    I didn't hear that either. I also heard "I've given you a month".
    Praying for precious little Kyron
    I'm sorry that justice was not served for you little Caylee. I pray that your murderer will forever be haunted by nightmares and will never find a moment's peace.


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    Did that happen in the maddy mccain case tho too? Didn't they think there was decomp in the trunk?
    It was said, but the thing is: Portuguese law enforcement keep their investigations under wraps and away from the public, as much as possible... most info is leaked from inside informants, and to this very day, a lot of us are still waiting to find out what was true and what wasn't true, about what went on in the investigation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pixies View Post
    I heard it on Fox when the tapes were first released. I'm sure I am not the only one who has.

    How can you put words in someones mouth when they said it themselves?

    IMO, all the lies surronding this case is a direct result of Casey and Grandma telling them. There would be no more lies if they would tell the truth.

    I really didn't take it as that. When gma said "i've given you a month" I really took that as, Casey has been off doing her own thing causing them stress for a month and Casey had not let gma talk to Caylee. I think gma was just fedup really. I didn't take it as she knew caylee was missing.


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    All I found was a posting from a Zenaida O from New York about wanting to see her grand-daughter but the other gp's have custody and her son wants to see the kid too or something and he lives in Florida.....

    I have no clue if they have any relation to Jesus O. and this post I found on a site says the other gp's are jehovas witness ( I have no clue if the Anthony's are) and the daughter (mother of the grandchild this lady is talking about) is mentally handicapped.....(lol..thought that might apply all jokes aside)
    Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangora View Post
    So the neighbors have changed the time line for the shovel borrowing?
    Are they still saying the car was backed in and it seemed strange?
    I caught the tail end of a shrink analyzing Casey on FOX, missed most of it because Drew Peterson was on Fox and Friends (OT) talking about the tape recordings.
    So, what did the shrink say?
    TIA
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    Shrink pretty much said what alot of us have discussed here, which is common sense IMO, and that is that Casey's demeanor and comments were strange and inappropriate, didn't fit, etc. (not a direct quote, just my summary of what he said).
    Praying for precious little Kyron
    I'm sorry that justice was not served for you little Caylee. I pray that your murderer will forever be haunted by nightmares and will never find a moment's peace.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pixies View Post
    When grandma said on the tapes "I've given you a month to find her" that sealed it for me.

    Grandma is probably in on this and Casey killed her child.
    I would like to see Grandma Crazy sitting in jail right now. She knows something and is not helping find her grandkid. She wants to be the "grieving" granny all over ever freaking news cast she can find yet she will not tell the truth.

    Welcome to WS, Cindi!
    Did Cindy say "I've given you a month to find her"? or did she just say "i've given you a month." It it's the latter, it might refer to all the times Cindy called Casey and wanted to talk to Caylee, and Casey said she was at the pool with a friend, or with the nanny. In other words, "I've given you a month" might just mean "I've been asking you for a month to talk to her, and you keep coming up with excuses as to why I can't. Now you tell me she's gone...where the h** is she!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by FLbeachdawg View Post
    No local talk that I have heard of besides that everyone just thinks Casey is definitely holding out info and knows where that baby is. This is one of those grapevine things but my coworker's boyfriend is friends with the people Casey borrowed the shovel from. But...with grapevine talk you don't really know what details get left out. All we heard was that they searched those people's home thoroughly as well...how much of that is true I don't know.
    I'm sure it is quiet surreal around there. I'm glad to see a local here with us! There are so many things we can all speculate on, this is such a twisted and bizarre case. I really do wish more locals, even acquaintances of Casey's, would make a post or two also. Thanks for that bit of info.
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    It says on our local news homepage that the grandparents and lee are scheduled to visit casey in jail again today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dimples37398 View Post
    All I found was a posting from a Zenaida O from New York about wanting to see her grand-daughter but the other gp's have custody and her son wants to see the kid too or something and he lives in Florida.....

    I have no clue if they have any relation to Jesus O. and this post I found on a site says the other gp's are jehovas witness ( I have no clue if the Anthony's are) and the daughter (mother of the grandchild this lady is talking about) is mentally handicapped.....(lol..thought that might apply all jokes aside)
    I would say based on the description of ZG being in the neighborhood of 26 and to my knowledge there has been no confirmation Jesus is Caylee's bio dad, prob not, but dont want to discourage anyone from digging.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dimples37398 View Post
    All I found was a posting from a Zenaida O from New York about wanting to see her grand-daughter but the other gp's have custody and her son wants to see the kid too or something and he lives in Florida.....

    I have no clue if they have any relation to Jesus O. and this post I found on a site says the other gp's are jehovas witness ( I have no clue if the Anthony's are) and the daughter (mother of the grandchild this lady is talking about) is mentally handicapped.....(lol..thought that might apply all jokes aside)
    Lol, that's funny. Unless a connection or confirmation is made, i wouldn't put a link here. But that's just me. You can always PM a mod for guidance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FLbeachdawg View Post
    does anyone know if the cadaver dogs can mistake anything else for decomp? I know it's highly unlikely, but I think I read in a previous post here that garbage can release some of the same fluids as a decomposing body? was there any truth to that?

    also I did a search for "zanny the nanny" on google and came across the character from the Starbucks books. Then of course I found the link where someone on here from a previous discussion had already found that. But I agree that Casey could have used the name from books she read as a kid.

    This Zenaida Ortiz has an interesting possibility too...but once again....what's up with the dogs hitting on the back yard and trunk? Did that happen in the maddy mccain case tho too? Didn't they think there was decomp in the trunk?
    There was a person from Homeland Security on Nacy Grace last week. She had her cadaver dog. Nancy asked if the dogs could hit on anything else. The woman said NO. Nancy asked is they would mistake food for a cadaver. The woman said NO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dimples37398 View Post
    All I found was a posting from a Zenaida O from New York about wanting to see her grand-daughter but the other gp's have custody and her son wants to see the kid too or something and he lives in Florida.....

    I have no clue if they have any relation to Jesus O. and this post I found on a site says the other gp's are jehovas witness ( I have no clue if the Anthony's are) and the daughter (mother of the grandchild this lady is talking about) is mentally handicapped.....(lol..thought that might apply all jokes aside)
    Do you have the link for this?

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    In reference to Cindy saying "I given you a month" It has everything to do with Caylee not being seen by Cindy.


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    unless this 26-year-old zenaida was using an alias of "ortiz" or any other link you find, i find it suspect - only because casey was soooo specific about the name, spelling it out and even including the "dash."


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