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  1. #16
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    Another example.

    Sound familiar?

    fran



    U.S. Mom in Dutch Haven Told Face Trial, Cede Kids

    A U.S. woman granted asylum in the Netherlands because she couldn't be protected from domestic violence is suddenly in the spotlight after quietly living underground. She faces charges in Minnesota and fears she will lose custody of her son.

    (WOMENSENEWS)--After living quietly for 10 years in the Netherlands as an American granted asylum, Holly Ann Collins is suddenly making headlines in Dutch newspapers and a criminal case growing out of a bitter custody battle refuses to go away.

    Collins became a focus of Dutch media attention as a U.S. "refugee" from domestic violence after a neighbor informed the FBI that she was living in Leiden, a town 12 miles from Amsterdam. That tipped off her location to authorities in Minnesota, where parental kidnapping charges against her are still pending from 1994, when she grabbed her three children and fled.

    She may be the first American to receive amnesty in the Netherlands; no other case has been documented, according to Dutch newspapers. She was granted asylum in 1997 after she lived for three years in four different camps with Bosnian and Somali war refugees.

    Her plight has captivated the international domestic violence community, with advocates, court observers and lawyers sharing the story in long chains of e-mail forwards and word of mouth.

    Speaking softly into the phone from her home, Collins said the Dutch judge let her and her children stay in the Netherlands for humanitarian reasons after deciding their safety couldn't be guaranteed if she returned to the United States.

    "Then we were placed in a house, the kids were allowed to go to school and a normal life began," she told Women's eNews.

    <<<<<<<<<<full article at link>>>>>>>>>>>>>



    http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/3662

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    [quote=fran;2444517]Another example.

    Sound familiar?

    fran

    What's weird is that I just finished that book about
    New Amsterdam again.

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    Perhaps the State of North Carolina should watch what happens in Massachusetts. It appears from recent headlines, North Carolina, you've got a problem!

    JMHO
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    Domestic violence deaths prompt action
    Patrick issues health advisory


    ...............snip............................
    Deaths related to domestic violence, which include homicides and suicides, have nearly tripled in Massachusetts during the past three years, from 19 in 2005 to 55 in 2007, according to Jane Doe Inc., the Massachusetts Coalition Against Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence, a nonprofit Boston-based network. There have been 24 deaths this year, Jane Doe officials said.

    Advocates hailed the governor's proposal, which he announced at a State House press conference.

    Mary R. Lauby, executive director of Jane Doe, said the governor's attention to the issue reflects its importance. "Victims need to hear from the highest voice in the state, from the highest elected official and his cabinet, that they understand," she said.

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    http://www.boston.com/news/local/art...prompt_action/

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    IMO, you'll see a LOT of similarities that's been reported from THIS case, in the article linked below.


    fran


    What is Emotional Abuse?


    http://www.findcounseling.com/journa...nal-abuse.html

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    This quite often goes on behind closed doors and NO ONE KNOWS BUT THE TWO OF YOU.

    Please go to link.....

    JMHO
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    What is Physical Abuse?

    http://www.findcounseling.com/journa...cal-abuse.html

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    To anyone who wants to know why these women stay with a person IF he's really abusing them, please go to this link.

    JMHO
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    It's Hard to Stop Because It's Hard To Report

    http://www.findcounseling.com/journa...use-abuse.html

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    You won't believe HOW MANY effects domestic violence can have upon a battered spouse. IMO, no one knows until they've walked in those shoes.

    One of the most important sentences in this page linked below, imo, is

    "Most battered women take active steps to protect their children, even if they do not leave their batterer"

    Please understand the reason Nancy was staying with her husband was she was trying to protect her children. He had taken the children's passports so she could NOT leave, imo.

    Nancy was trapped and NOW ERASED

    JMHO
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    Effects of Domestic Violence

    http://www.findcounseling.com/journa...e-effects.html

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    Speaking of being erased, I get the feeling this is precisely what little Caylee's mom has done to her. Horrific.

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    [QUOTE=Bob&Bob;2444538]
    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Another example.

    Sound familiar?

    fran

    What's weird is that I just finished that book about
    New Amsterdam again.
    Oh, Hi bob! Didn't see ya here.

    So, what did you think of the book? Pretty scary for a woman when she tries to escape an abusive relationship, huh? Of course, many people just don't get that at the time the woman decides to take her life back and run, it's the most dangerous time for her. It's during the impending separation period a woman takes the risk of being ERASED!

    Such a sad situation. So much goes on behind closed doors, often times no one believes the spouse crying wolfe!

    Take this case for instance. Because Nancy had never called LE, there was no official document of domestic violence, Nancy was STILL with her alleged abuser, many people just don't believe what she told her friends. That's just it, this is a crime that occurs behind closed doors and NO ONE KNOWS BUT THE TWO INVOLVED, quite often.

    LOL, without mentioning any names , one case we watched, the family was positive their missing loved one was in a very loving and caring relationship. They just were NOT aware of the 'secret life' of the surviving spouse until it was TOO LATE!

    Heartbreaking,

    fran

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    Quote Originally Posted by SusieClue View Post
    Speaking of being erased, I get the feeling this is precisely what little Caylee's mom has done to her. Horrific.


    Well, you did hear the latest, right? She 'feels she's close to home and ok.'

    {spooky}
    fran


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    Some women just don't get out quick enough and end up ERASED

    According to this study, the increase in women victims vs male victims has risen dramatically since the 1970's. This isn't a new phenomina. This, IMHO, has been going on forever. I'm just wondering if it's not because these cases are being more publicized, LE is tuning in more, there just aren't as many GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER?

    Interesting link.

    JMHO
    fran

    http://www.helpstartshere.org/Defaul...eID=1248#facts

    Family Safety Current Trends - About Domestic Homicide and Murder-Suicide

    .................snip........................

    According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports, 1,055 women and 287 men were murdered by their intimate partners in 2005. These figures are striking, because in the past, in the 1970s and earlier, the numbers of men and women so victimized were about even. In other words, there has been a significant decline in the numbers of men killed by their partners but not for women.

    The number of men who were murdered by intimates dropped by 75% between 1976 and 2005 (BJS). The number of black females murdered in this time has declined but the number of white females murdered has dropped only by 6%. Statistics Canada (1998, 2005), similarly, reveals a sharp decline in the numbers of male domestic homicide victims but not of female victims of homicide.

    The reason that women are resorting less to murder of their partners is most likely because many of these women were battered women who felt trapped in a dangerous situation. Today, the presence of violence prevention programming and the availability of shelters are paving the way to other options. The fact that domestic violence services apparently are saving the lives of more men than women is a positive, though unintended consequence of the women’s shelter movement (see van Wormer and Bartollas, 2007).

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    Perhaps this should be a MUST READ for husbands who intend to ERASE
    their wife, rather than seek a divorce. May increase the divorce rate a bit, but at the same time, it may cut back on homicide detective hours.

    JMHO

    fran

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/spousfac.pdf

    Husbands convicted more often than wives for spouse murder

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    Interesting, Google must be doing their listings in a 'politically correct' manner or something. I search under 'husbands who murder their spouse,' and of the first 10 hits displayed, 1/2 of them are about 'wives' murdering their spouse.

    Interesting.

    Oh, I'm NOT saying females don't try to ERASE their husband. But that wasn't what I was looking for.

    I wanted studies and such.

    JMHO
    fran

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    That's creepy Fran. It looked like the majority of them were about women who murder their husbands and then there was the battered husband link at the bottom of the first page. What's that about???
    Hinky Dinky Parlez Vous!-Sleuthy Gal

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    try searcing using this. it seems more on target but ita the other results seem odd.

    statistics crimes against women husband
    All comments IMHO, etc etc

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