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    Hmmm...

    Phoenix police say they've broken up a major prostitution ring that operated in the region and set up dates through Web sites.




    http://www.azcentral.com/community/n...ution0805.html

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    I am sure the LE has already looked at all of these papers etc. If any of it was important enough or could ID MJD they would have already checked it out. IMO

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    because they've done such a great job so far...
    nothing seems black when i see your red shoes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teresa Larson View Post
    I am sure the LE has already looked at all of these papers etc. If any of it was important enough or could ID MJD they would have already checked it out. IMO

    I am NOT sure. Honestly, if LE was that on top of things, MJD would have been ID'd 9 1/2 years ago....

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    There are 1000's of people that are unidentified and the LE's did all they could do to identify them. I can't say IMO whether they botched this case or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teresa Larson View Post
    There are 1000's of people that are unidentified and the LE's did all they could do to identify them. I can't say IMO whether they botched this case or not.
    Well, if I had to guess, I would say "No." If you look - seriously - at everything we've seen here, it seems clear LE hasn't done everything in their power to find the identities of UID's. In MJD's case - and countless others in the US. How can you possibly say what you're saying here???

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    As a step daughter of a federal law enforcement agent-- I have to chime in here. Runaway and prostitution cases/incidents are seldom ever given much attention. There are countless runaways and countless prostitutes who go unidentified, not because it's necessarily impossible, but because they are NOT priority. IMO, MJD's case has a lot of fill-in-the-blanks that could have easily been filled in almost TEN YEARS AGO. I am not trying to say that LE didn't do anything to try to find an identity for her, but unfortunately getting this poor girl an identity is probably not on the top of their list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASHLEY88 View Post
    As a step daughter of a federal law enforcement agent-- I have to chime in here. Runaway and prostitution cases/incidents are seldom ever given much attention. There are countless runaways and countless prostitutes who go unidentified, not because it's necessarily impossible, but because they are NOT priority. IMO, MJD's case has a lot of fill-in-the-blanks that could have easily been filled in almost TEN YEARS AGO. I am not trying to say that LE didn't do anything to try to find an identity for her, but unfortunately getting this poor girl an identity is probably not on the top of their list.

    I will say those Sheriffs in Maricopa County are always very busy. Look at how many jails they have. I do know that one small slip up can ruin the chances of identifying somebody. I would have to agree with them not making a big priority out of finding out who a dead prostitute was. In all fairness though MJD may not have had any ID since she was so young.

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    When you consider the number of officers that work any particular case vs the number of sleuthers who have the time and energy, there is no comparison.

    Botched? I don't think so. For almost 10 years LE has had the people in hand or accessible who could give a name to her. They say they don't know it; or they continue to hide it. I am sure the feeling was that someone would have missed her by now and would have come forward. And in the meantime, crime after crime piles up on the desk of the detectives.

    That's why there is a need for folks like us-we have the luxury of digging in on a single case or two and following it until the end....

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    had an Idea

    There is a newspaper in Phoenix called the Bachelors Beat or the Beat per wikipedia it has been around for a LONG time....

    It advertises escort services and all that kind of stuff,,,adult businesses etc...

    I wonder if they have archives they could go back in and look for Dollar Bill or Kc Slim or maybe even a pic of MJD maybe there is something in their archives in the personals

    here is a link to their website

    http://www.bachelorsbeat.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by phenolred View Post
    had an Idea

    There is a newspaper in Phoenix called the Bachelors Beat or the Beat per wikipedia it has been around for a LONG time....

    It advertises escort services and all that kind of stuff,,,adult businesses etc...

    I wonder if they have archives they could go back in and look for Dollar Bill or Kc Slim or maybe even a pic of MJD maybe there is something in their archives in the personals

    here is a link to their website

    http://www.bachelorsbeat.com/
    That's a good idea.
    nothing seems black when i see your red shoes

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    Quote Originally Posted by youshouldveknown View Post
    That's a good idea.

    Go girls!!! Jump in and write something up to send with the photo of the business card!!!

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    HAH I remember this paper. During my freshman year, some chick had a pager # ONE NUMBER off of mine, with my same name, and guess who got all the calls? Changed my number cause of that.
    One guy was nice enough to tell us the paper it was in and everything about the ad (the description actually fit me- we thought it was my ex playing a sick payback joke). My mom and I waded through all the gross crap in there to find it. o_O

    Quote Originally Posted by phenolred View Post
    had an Idea

    There is a newspaper in Phoenix called the Bachelors Beat or the Beat per wikipedia it has been around for a LONG time....

    It advertises escort services and all that kind of stuff,,,adult businesses etc...

    I wonder if they have archives they could go back in and look for Dollar Bill or Kc Slim or maybe even a pic of MJD maybe there is something in their archives in the personals

    here is a link to their website

    http://www.bachelorsbeat.com/
    Sorry I haven't been around too much last couple days. My daughter came home yesterday from a 2 week vacation and her dad's still in town until tomorrow evening.

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    does anyone want to contact them? Ive got a really full schedule today or I would....I also found a website for phoenix girls

    one on the front pages name is Carla........

    http://www.phoenixwebgirls.com/intro.html


    ive had not luck finding Robin angers or white

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASHLEY88 View Post
    As a step daughter of a federal law enforcement agent-- I have to chime in here. Runaway and prostitution cases/incidents are seldom ever given much attention. There are countless runaways and countless prostitutes who go unidentified, not because it's necessarily impossible, but because they are NOT priority. IMO, MJD's case has a lot of fill-in-the-blanks that could have easily been filled in almost TEN YEARS AGO. I am not trying to say that LE didn't do anything to try to find an identity for her, but unfortunately getting this poor girl an identity is probably not on the top of their list.
    I understand LE is busy and have an awful lot on their plates. But IMO - MJD was a victim all around. And the bottom line is, she was a CHILD and a human being. I shudder to think how many kids like her are out there in the world, on their own and being exploited. These are the kids who are falling through the cracks. The most vulnerable of our society. It breaks my heart. In MJD's case, not only is a child unidentified nearly 10 years later (which I doubt anyone involved could have anticipated), but quite possibly a victim of murder. That car was compromised in LE's possession. I realize there are facts in this case we do not yet know, but it really breaks my heart.

    This week in Vegas, we had an arrest of 2 people - a 21 Y/O girl and a 31 Y/O man who murdered a 17 Y/O runaway. He was pimping her out on Craigslist and the 3 of them were caught up in a "love triangle." He killed her, knocked out all her teeth, cut off all her tatoos and buried her in the desert. Sadly, these murderers have a newborn baby and CPS cannot determine exactly when the victim entered the foster care system. Sorry, but WTF?

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