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    TX - Elizabeth Pena, 16, & Jennifer Ertman, 14, slain, Houston, 24 June 1993

    Here's the story:

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/5922356.html

    Basic recap: In 1996, two teenage girls, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena, were coming home around 11 p.m. and cut through a park to get home sooner for curfew. They ran into a drunken gang initiation. Both girls were raped, sodomized, strangled, and then stomped to death. Their bodies were found four days later (in summer) when a brother of one of the gang members ratted the others out.

    One participant, Derick O'Brien, has already been executed for his part. Another had his crime commuted to a life sentence when the Supreme Court ruled that he committed the crime as a juvenile and could not be executed.

    The third (the others have life sentences) is set for execution Tuesday night. Jose Medellin, the leader, has been in the United States since he was 3 years old. He says he told LE that he was a Mexican national (here illegally, by the way) and they did not tell him he could access the Mexican consulate. The prosecutors deny that Medellin said this at all.

    Medellin waived his Miranda rights and made a full confession when arrested. He has never expressed remorse for his acts, calling them an "adolescent choice." He speaks of himself as a "good guy" on a Canadian anti-death penalty website. He bragged that both girls were virgins when raped, after the crime.

    One anti-death penalty opponent stated that after meeting with Medellin, she recanted her position based on his attitude.

    His parents have been forbidden to visit him since 2001 when they were caught planning an escape plan for him.

    The Mexican government has pushed for Medellin to have a retrial and hearing based on the issue of his being denied consulate help. The trial was extremely well-publicized and as a side note, the Mexican consulate was well aware of the crime and trial, and could easily have contaced Medellin at the time to offer assistance if he was indeed a national. They did not, at the time.

    The World Court at the Hague ruled that Texas does not have the right to execute Medellin. President Bush asked that there be a new hearing. The Supreme Court ruled that President Bush/Executive branch of the government lacked the authority to ask that Texas follow the treaties involved, and so the execution was legal. (Congress only has the ability to enforce treaties.)

    Personally? My oldest was 4 when the crime happened. I remember the searches and the agony when they were found. Now she is the same age as the victimes, and I cannot imagine such agony happening to any teenage girl. My heart has never stopped breaking for these girls. This is the first case where I truly have considered driving to Huntsville in support of the families. Unfortunately, we're getting Tropical Storm Edouard tomorrow.

    Bottom line, Medellin is not sorry, has remorse only for himself, and deserves an execution more than many another person. At least the other participant already executed repeatedly said he was sorry. Medellin never has.

    Mods, maybe this should be in Crimes in the News. Sorry!!!!

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    How horrible, I say get it over with now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by michelle View Post
    How horrible, I say get it over with now!
    You and at least 700 other residents of Texas, not counting the ones who haven't expressed it online yet. That would be in the thousands and ten thousands.

    It has been years and I still cannot think of these girls without my heart breaking. One of them was thrown to the ground by Medellin and she screamed...the other one went back to help her friend.

    By the time they were found, they were identified via dental records.

    Medellin deserves no mercy and not one single minute longer of breathing the air on this earth.

    And as a side note to those who are anti-death penalty, his parents were actively trying to help him escape. So much for life without parole as a safe alternative.

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    Hmm, You would think his entire family would be here illegally so I hope they tracked them down also and deported them.

    Execute him! He deserves no mercy.

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    I am anti-DP all the way, but I think TX surely does have the authority to carry out such a sentence on this man. Thank Goodness for the Supreme Court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom View Post
    I am anti-DP all the way, but I think TX surely does have the authority to carry out such a sentence on this man. Thank Goodness for the Supreme Court.
    Yes, I'm by no means a rabid States' Righter but the issues were clearly settled by the Texas appellate court and then the Supreme Court. Basically, having access to the Mexican Consulate would not have affected the outcome of the trial--he not only confessed, he bragged about it.

    I can see where the issue of only being an adolescent gang member would have some significance, but the time in prison doesn't seem to have taught Medellin any wisdom. He seems to think that the anti-death philosophy in and of itself is enough for him--he doesn't have to show remorse, take responsibility, or in any way show he understands the depth of his crimes. He just gets to live because it's wrong to take a life, particularly HIS.

    The irony and sheer gall of that--appalling.

    And for the Mexican government to intervene so heavy-handed on behalf of an illegal immigrant to the U.S. who committed a truly horrific crime--Some friendly government. We'd be better off with Thailand as neighbors.

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    Am not pro nor con death penalty. There are minds in this world that cannot be controlled otherwise. We risk enough putting sexual predators on probation "hoping" they will not strike again. The no compunction mentality has no purpose in life, without ending theirs there is a continuing potential for the deaths of others from this mindset. His wiring is different, he cannot be rewired, he can only be shorted out by law or by natural causes. In the entirity of that predators life , wherever he may be, he remains a threat to kill, escape and kill, escape and remain killing for many years to come.

    What do we do with pit bulls who attack and then attack the rescuer's. Cruel as it may sound, there is no difference in the mindset of the attack by pit bulls and this instant predator. Human yes he is, but in form only. Why does he exist? I do not know but his existence is a horror waiting for some innocent person on this earth. It is only a matter of his walking around, entering into a setting that matches the mental template in his wrongly wired brain and he acts, without thought, without compunction, he is a predator as true and functional as the wolf hunting for food, the wolf hunts for survival though. The human predator hunts for pleasure.

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    Cecil (love your w/s name) you are so right. Medellin is a classic example of a human that will forever be a danger to others--as evidenced by his lack of remorse and his parents' attempts to have him escape.

    I have a teaching colleague who has a great phrase used very rarely but meant very sincerely--"Broke and can't be fixed."

    Medellin was only a few years older than his victims, and yet he had not a bit of hesitation in brutalizing and then killing them.

    Medellin stands out among Texas Death Row inmates, right up there with:

    http://www.txexecutions.org/reports/283.asp

    and

    http://www.txexecutions.org/reports/306.asp

    I hope Medellin makes peace with his maker, or whatever his beliefs, if any, require before death. However, I'm sure he's still confident in his arrogance that he'll get a reprieve. I hope he feels the same sense of horror and dread that his victims, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena, did.

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    I can understand being opposed to the death penalty in the abstract or in principal.
    But when opponents get emotionally invested and start lending support to some of these monsters individually in essence lobbying behalf of rapists and murderers who are clearly guilty...they lose me real quick.
    This guy needs to be smoked the sooner the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texana View Post
    You and at least 700 other residents of Texas, not counting the ones who haven't expressed it online yet. That would be in the thousands and ten thousands.

    It has been years and I still cannot think of these girls without my heart breaking. One of them was thrown to the ground by Medellin and she screamed...the other one went back to help her friend.

    By the time they were found, they were identified via dental records.

    Medellin deserves no mercy and not one single minute longer of breathing the air on this earth.

    And as a side note to those who are anti-death penalty, his parents were actively trying to help him escape. So much for life without parole as a safe alternative.
    I often think of these girls and the way they suffered. That any of these boys only got life in prison is nauseating!!! This was one of the most heinous crimes, I hope he enjoys hell.


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    I remember well when that happened. Fry his *ss already!!!

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    I love this from the link in the first post on this thread:
    Jennifer's father, Randy Ertman, dismissed international opposition to the execution.

    "It's just a last-ditch effort to keep the ******* breathing," Ertman said. "He never should have been breathing in the first place. I don't care, I really don't care what anyone thinks about this except Texas. I love Texas. Texas is in my blood."

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    I'm pro death penalty. It was enacted for people (and I use the term loosely, he's a demon) just like this.

    The only problem I have with the death penalty is that it's too easy. Lay down, get a needle in the arm and off to sleep you go. I think they should be taken out the same way that their victims were.

    I know some will say then that makes us no better than they are; I disagree. These young girls weren't hurting anyone. They were on their way home (probably really good girls too since they were rushing to make curfew) and these *astards did this to them. An eye for an eye.

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    About 8 more hours, I figure, and then he's off the planet.

    He's getting so much an easier death than those girls did--I hope he's terrified of the hereafter.

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    Latest update:

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...o/5924476.html

    One of Medellin's lawyers says his execution will put "thousands of Americans abroad at risk."

    Unbelievable.

    On the other hand, his execution removes from risk many other Americans, including those who had to guard him while he attempted escape attempts. Hmm. Tough call.

    Not.

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