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    Quote Originally Posted by debbie0604 View Post
    Hi Boots, thank you so much for your welcome!! That's a good thought. I was wondering from reading that report if possibly the shooters had shot her in the abdomen first (#VII Epigastrium), then hitting her in the chest and the shots to her arms were just random viscious shots. The shooter(s) are viscious killers. Also #VIII was a gunshot in which the shooter came within close enough range to leave gunpowder. I'm wondering if the girls were not facing the shooter.

    Because of the position/location of each body - it appears, to me, that Taylor was close to the road and was facing the killer(s) and Skyla who was about 5 feet away and, apparently, headed back into the woods, was attempting to escape.

    The coroner did not make much note of the abrasions. There was a linear scab of a "Z" on the back of the left hip and a "scar" on the inner aspect of the left arm. I noticed that there were some paint markings on their bodies that they had made on each other like typical little girls will do when bored. The "Z" scar could be from what kids will do when they are bored as well.

    The "Z" scabs/scars/markings, IMO, were made by the girls on themselves and on each other and represent their devotion to "Zanessa" or "Zac" from High School Musical.

    Could the other abrasions be from where they fell in the brush?They probably are. I was just wanting to know if you had additional info to add to the "scanty" comments in the autopsy.
    Thanks, Debbie0604...My responses to bolded comments are in red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debbie0604 View Post
    Hi KP!! Thank you for the welcome! Laboratories (include State Forensic Laboratories)keep records on file for 5 years and their records will include their toxicology reports. I'm not sure why Taylor's report states a hold time of 30 days. I'm thinking that may be a typo. (Working in Pathology myself - this happens and it goes unnoticed by staff).
    Thanks debbie... So 5 years is the norm? Interesting. It wouldn't be the first typo on the autopsy reports.
    In loving memory of Skyla Whitaker (1997-2008) and Taylor Paschal-Placker (1995-2008).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardPlayer View Post
    Thanks debbie... So 5 years is the norm? Interesting. It wouldn't be the first typo on the autopsy reports.
    Yes KP you are correct. Taylor's autopsy reports her birthdate incorrectly as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren - CA View Post
    Yes KP you are correct. Taylor's autopsy reports her birthdate incorrectly as well.
    Yep, I remember that Lauren (hee hee), I wasn't aware of that until you pointed it out to me. Good catch!
    In loving memory of Skyla Whitaker (1997-2008) and Taylor Paschal-Placker (1995-2008).

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    Looking at Skyla's autopsy report I notice all the wounds seem to be coming predominantly from the front. These entrance wounds can then be devided to those going either slightly up, or those going slightly down. Those going slightly down could have been fired from the back of a pick-up truck... And would then be the first ones to hit her. Those going slightly up in direction, it would seem to me, could have been fired when she was on the ground, supine, with the shooter standing at some unspecified distance from her feet.

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    Taylor seems to have been shot in the head 3 times. It could be a .22 firing hollow points, or perhaps a smaller center fire caliber like a .25 or .380. I draw this conclusion by the combination of lack of penetration, and from the bullets having a copper jacket. I would lean toward the smaller .25/.380 because of the lack of penetration. .22 though quite small in caliber, do have quite a bit of penetration, especially the hollow point variety.

    It seems to me at first glance that both girls were shot nearly at the same time... The gunner shooting the smaller caliber weapon seems to have shot Taylor in the face 3 times. I would suggest these are the opening shots on her. Then with 2 more shots fired with her on the ground also producing the upward trajectory.

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    Hi USARDOG,
    Is there any chance these wounds could have come from a shotgun?
    Thanks for your opinions above.

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    It is quite difficult for me to fathom people being this cruel and heartless. These people need to be found and dealt with. The totally senseless and vicious nature of this crime is quite shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USARDOG View Post
    It is quite difficult for me to fathom people being this cruel and heartless. These people need to be found and dealt with. The totally senseless and vicious nature of this crime is quite shocking.
    I echo that sentiment wholeheartedly.
    In loving memory of Skyla Whitaker (1997-2008) and Taylor Paschal-Placker (1995-2008).

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    Quite honestly Ruf, IMO, no. These wounds would seem most likely from hand guns. A shotgun would either produce many wounds, in a charistic pattern, and none would have copper jackets. Or if firing slugs, would have been massively destructive at these ranges, leaving huge exit wounds, blowing out large portions of tissue.


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    IMO the PD should be looking for 2 hand guns. One 40 cal, and I am not sure why they are zeroing in on Glock... Unless there are charistic extractor marks on cases... There are many brands of handguns that shoot 40. The other gun I would suggest is another handgun, likely a .25 or .380. I think this crime was most probably done by 2 shooters, firing at nearly the same time.

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    My idea for working this case would be to put a camara in the woods here, and record every car coming and going, then do follow ups. I believe these killers will return to the scene of this crime.

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    I know almost nothing about guns. I did not think the girls were shot w/ a shot gun. But, it was a rumor that was discussed yesterday, that a reporter on CNN had asked the question of Jessica Brown and that she did not deny or confirm it. So, you think 2 shooters. I go back and forth on my theory of the # of shooters........... Have you thought of a motive? Any ideas?

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    I don't believe 1 shooter could have done this, and IMO not a shotgun. Just viscous punks with handguns. IMO these girls were shot nearly at the same time, because no shots were fired into their backs. They were facing their killers, and surprised by them suddenly opening fire.

    I don't believe there was a motive here. No drug thing, no revenge killing... I believe this was a thrill killing. A spur of the moment, "I dare you," killing. I believe these killers will return to the scene of this crime, because I believe they are from this area, and have gotten a great kick out of this killing... So it is quite natural they will return to "enjoy their work."

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    Someone will talk... One thing about punks, they can't keep their mouths shut.

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