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    Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #17

    Please continue GENERAL discussions here.

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    Thanks Christine!


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    Thanks, Christine!

    OK Back to the subject of meth labs and locals. Yes, I believe FC sources are "out of loop" when it comes to the extent of drugs in the area. I have it on good authority there are major problems in and around that area. The locals could be oblivious to it because of the reasons I stated before. Some of these are the people they grew up with and tend to still trust even if they are a bit "shady". We all know those types. We don't consider them to be dangerous, but we also don't know who their connections are anymore.

    I have always thought drugs/guns were part of this. I tend to think it more today because of lack of movement towards a resolve in this case. I do have to think they were strangers with local ties and the reason they can't find out any information on the shooters. I also think the local connection may be from Bryant and not from Weleetka...but may live in the Tulsa area now.
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    Again as far as 'shady' activity and LE. I know there was an instance a few years back in Okmulgee Co where some guys were busted for drugs, they leaked the name of who they got it from. LE bust him and he leaks another name. That name was of a Henryettan who was well known in the community with LE connections. When local LE found out his name had been leaked, they warned him to 'get the heck out of Dodge' until the situation ended. All of a sudden locals realize he's gone and a few months later, he showed back up. Again, this was a few years ago, but I'm almost certain 'shady' activity such as that would still go on.


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    Also, regarding the Keloughs, someone had mentioned that one of them was a Lighthorseman and had offered LE his help but was told it wasn't needed. With what I know about the Keloughs, the woman and son 'hear' shots, the ex-Lighthorseman offers 'help'. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if that is all just a 'cover up'.

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    OK I am fed up with my internet connection today. I have been trying for hours now to upload the pictures and my service is in and out and I dont know why, but normally my service is fairly well. So much for so called Mobile Broadband huh. I am going to set the thing to upload and maybe by the time we get up in the morning they will have made it to our server.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Claycat View Post
    Just, do you know if these two are related?

    Dillon Kelough 17

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndid=324820573


    Dillon Harris (mother was a Kelough) 25

    http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/se...book_id=302018


    Sorry it has taken me some time to respond. Honestly, I don't know if they are related or not. Given the information that the Harris boy was connected to the Keloughs through his mom, then my guess would be yes. As far as I know, there aren't many Keloughs outside of this area of the state and all the ones I know are related. So, I'm thinking, yes, they probably are kin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Nose'n around View Post
    Sorry it has taken me some time to respond. Honestly, I don't know if they are related or not. Given the information that the Harris boy was connected to the Keloughs through his mom, then my guess would be yes. As far as I know, there aren't many Keloughs outside of this area of the state and all the ones I know are related. So, I'm thinking, yes, they probably are kin.
    There is a Crystal G. & Kristopher Kelough out here near me..........hmm!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Thanks, Christine!

    OK Back to the subject of meth labs and locals. Yes, I believe FC sources are "out of loop" when it comes to the extent of drugs in the area. I have it on good authority there are major problems in and around that area. The locals could be oblivious to it because of the reasons I stated before. Some of these are the people they grew up with and tend to still trust even if they are a bit "shady". We all know those types. We don't consider them to be dangerous, but we also don't know who their connections are anymore.

    I have always thought drugs/guns were part of this. I tend to think it more today because of lack of movement towards a resolve in this case. I do have to think they were strangers with local ties and the reason they can't find out any information on the shooters. I also think the local connection may be from Bryant and not from Weleetka...but may live in the Tulsa area now.
    I don't consider the locals "out of the loop" at all! It's been a LOOOOOONG time since I actually lived in a small town, but I do believe everybody knows everyone's business in these communities. People talk, gossip, speculate, etc. I believe the local folks are an extremely valuable resource!!! Are you saying they have their heads buried in the sand?

    I will not say that I don't believe drugs or other unlawful activities were at play in this case. These things are a part of MOST violent crimes. Still, there is a huge tangled web to work through here, based on what we have learned. I will give LE the benefit of the doubt here. If 1/2 of what we have learned here is accurate, they have their work cut out for them!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    I don't consider the locals "out of the loop" at all! It's been a LOOOOOONG time since I actually lived in a small town, but I do believe everybody knows everyone's business in these communities. People talk, gossip, speculate, etc. I believe the local folks are an extremely valuable resource!!! Are you saying they have their heads buried in the sand?

    I will not say that I don't believe drugs or other unlawful activities were at play in this case. These things are a part of MOST violent crimes. Still, there is a huge tangled web to work through here, based on what we have learned. I will give LE the benefit of the doubt here. If 1/2 of what we have learned here is accurate, they have their work cut out for them!
    Thank you Fairy1
    I don't feel the drug problem in Weleetka is greater than any other small town.
    When the drug statistics were looked at, it was for all Okfuskee Co. and I think they added Okmulgee Co. also (the area).
    We pray every second of the day these evil murderers will be found.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sheza View Post
    Thank you Fairy1
    I don't feel the drug problem in Weleetka is greater than any other small town.
    When the drug statistics were looked at, it was for all Okfuskee Co. and I think they added Okmulgee Co. also (the area).
    We pray every second of the day these evil murderers will be found.
    No worries, Sheza. Drugs - and particularly meth - is a huge problem everywhere. Doesn't mean this case did or did not have anything to do with it!


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    I said, "FC's sources" not the locals as a whole. Please don't take my words out of context. Her "source" claimed there was no problem with drug activity going on in the area. Now, do they have their head in the sand? I can't speak to that as I don't know why they would not recognize what actually goes on.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

    A quote spray painted on the wall by search
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    What I post are my opinions only.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    I said, "FC's sources" not the locals as a whole. Please don't take my words out of context. Her "source" claimed there was no problem with drug activity going on in the area. Now, do they have their head in the sand? I can't speak to that as I don't know why they would not recognize what actually goes on.
    You clearly have an issue with FC - don't know why. I do not believe you know her sources personally nor why you feel the need to question them. But are you actually in WELEETKA? If not, you cannot speak to the day-to-day life there right now. I did NOT take your words out of context. You clearly have your own opinions pertaining to this case; as do we all. At this point, all positions are valid. IMO...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    You clearly have an issue with FC - don't know why. I do not believe you know her sources personally nor why you feel the need to question them. But are you actually in WELEETKA? If not, you cannot speak to the day-to-day life there right now. I did NOT take your words out of context. You clearly have your own opinions pertaining to this case; as do we all. At this point, all positions are valid. IMO...
    The problem I have is that they won't come here and speak for themselves plus I find them to be inaccurate in what they are saying "through" FC. How can we question them?! No, I don't know her "sources" personally and would love to "question" them...but we will never get that chance.

    Yes, we all do have opinions and they are all welcome here. I have every right to disagree with them. We have been on this roller coaster ride of weird theories for weeks going into months now. Are we any further than we were the day the girls were murdered? No. Do we need to figure out why? Yes. It means we have not been on the right path to find the real answers and neither has LE that we can tell. So after the wild goose chases...we do need to start over and go with our first gut reactions. Mine was the drug/gun dealer theory.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

    A quote spray painted on the wall by search
    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    The problem I have is that they won't come here and speak for themselves plus I find them to be inaccurate in what they are saying "through" FC. How can we question them?! No, I don't know her "sources" personally and would love to "question" them...but we will never get that chance.

    Yes, we all do have opinions and they are all welcome here. I have every right to disagree with them. We have been on this roller coaster ride of weird theories for weeks going into months now. Are we any further than we were the day the girls were murdered? No. Do we need to figure out why? Yes. It means we have not been on the right path to find the real answers and neither has LE that we can tell. So after the wild goose chases...we do need to start over and go with our first gut reactions. Mine was the drug/gun dealer theory.
    We are discussing VERY SMALL COMMUNITIES here. If members of those communities are hesitant or afraid to come here and speak their minds, I respect and understand that. By the same token, I am grateful to those who do come here!

    Of course you have a right to disagree with the opinions of others. But, at this point, it is still completely open to speculation - from our perspective.
    We DO NOT KNOW what LE knows and until they divulge more details, we all can only speculate. As I've said, there are many players in these families who may be connected....or not. We just don't know. I am not willing to shoot down any possible scenario until we know more and I do not wish to make anyone feel stupid for their opinions. I, personally, am grateful for ALL of the input on this board.


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