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    In regards to the bracelets, I think they were mentioned on kjrh channel 2 out of Tulsa when they aired an update when Graham was fixing to go back to school. As far as trying to find one today, well tomorrow now that it's late. They have been selling them at Jiffy Mart, a gas station in Henryetta. They also kept some for the students. Ms Mankin has said that not enough were ordered, since it wasn't anticipated that so many would want to purchase them. She has since ordered more but they may not be in for a week or so. When they do come in they will be available at Jiffy Mart again, a location in Dustin and another in Weleetka. I believe the Henryetta news paper is also going to try carrying some, if there are enough available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claycat View Post
    Just, do you know if these two are related?

    Dillon Kelough 17

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    Dillon Harris (mother was a Kelough) 25

    http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/se...book_id=302018


    Sorry it has taken me some time to respond. Honestly, I don't know if they are related or not. Given the information that the Harris boy was connected to the Keloughs through his mom, then my guess would be yes. As far as I know, there aren't many Keloughs outside of this area of the state and all the ones I know are related. So, I'm thinking, yes, they probably are kin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaGiGi View Post
    C2 thanks for the photos.
    Is that the little cafe that Uncle Joe was supposedly yapping at the night of the murders?
    The restraunt he was talking about after the murders was just off the highway at Henryetta, the one called Pig Out Palace or Huckleberrys. The area c2 was in is known as Pharoah (sp?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Nose'n around View Post
    The restraunt he was talking about after the murders was just off the highway at Henryetta, the one called Pig Out Palace or Huckleberrys.

    Huckleberry's Pig Out Palace
    10029 Highway 62, Henryetta, OK 74437

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert18 View Post
    I don't see how it would hurt the investigation to tell people who talked to the girls last, who in the family saw them alive last and at what time, who was home that afternoon, and if the Plackers weren't home then where were they and what time did they leave.

    I assume if somebody knows something and they haven't called LE it is because they are scared, don't trust LE, or don't care. I assume it is probably a combination of the first two. It is very hard to encourage someone to come forward if LE has no dialog with the public.
    Yes, they are keeping things secret that might bring people forward if, for instance, the Plackers said they were home and someone saw them elsewhere at the same time.
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    Yep, that's the place...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Nose'n around View Post
    Sorry it has taken me some time to respond. Honestly, I don't know if they are related or not. Given the information that the Harris boy was connected to the Keloughs through his mom, then my guess would be yes. As far as I know, there aren't many Keloughs outside of this area of the state and all the ones I know are related. So, I'm thinking, yes, they probably are kin.
    There is a Crystal G. & Kristopher Kelough out here near me..........hmm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    Yes, they are keeping things secret that might bring people forward if, for instance, the Plackers said they were home and someone saw them elsewhere at the same time.
    I believe LE knows the answer to this question. And I (want to!!!) believe that whatever information LE is holding back - is for a reason. I wouldn't say I'm optimistic, but I'm certainly not without hope....

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    My optimism is fading. There have been so many cases where the thought was that LE was keeping things close, yet the cases are plainly not solved.

    I think if OSBI had anything, there would have been an arrest by now. They aren't going to let a child killer walk the streets.

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    [QUOTE=Tom'sGirl;2500123]


    Huckleberry's Pig Out Palace

    10029 Highway 62, Henryetta, OK 74437
    ClayCat.....You not gonna believe this.

    The picture of Huckleberrys Pig Out Palace, triggered my memory of what 'goose berry bushes' have always been called in my area, Huckleberry Bushes....my Mother made many huckleberry pies, us kids picked from gooseberry bushes....imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trino View Post
    My optimism is fading. There have been so many cases where the thought was that LE was keeping things close, yet the cases are plainly not solved.

    I think if OSBI had anything, there would have been an arrest by now. They aren't going to let a child killer walk the streets.
    Understandable. I just can't let myself feel that way or - I will NEVER sleep again!!! Considering everything that has been uncovered on this board relating to the families, I do feel that LE has quite a few stones to "unturn." May take a little time, but I do believe, in my heart, they will figure it out. I keep coming back to the phrase, "there is no honor among thieves." Someone will turn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    I guess I was expecting the see some of the same type documents we saw in the Laurean/Lauterbach case.
    But weren't those things revealed after they had nabbed Laurean about three months after the crime happened?

    If there is an arrest then I think we may learn more but until then we may not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    I believe LE knows the answer to this question. And I (want to!!!) believe that whatever information LE is holding back - is for a reason. I wouldn't say I'm optimistic, but I'm certainly not without hope....
    I feel assured that OSBI has all of the information and much more.

    Just because we don't know all the particulars doesn't mean they don't.

    They may not want to release the TOD so that the killers will know they know. That way when they interrogate them they cant doctor a made up alibi beforehand.

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    Do I need to stop in the Pig Out Palace and see whats up there? Just let me know. I have stopped there many times and dont mind doing so when I am there again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c2cd208 View Post
    Do I need to stop in the Pig Out Palace and see whats up there? Just let me know. I have stopped there many times and dont mind doing so when I am there again.
    If you're hungry round that time.....why not?!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    Maybe if you called them you could find out if they had extras after giving them out to the students, or you could email them.
    http://www.graham.k12.ok.us/
    Ya I'll see if they will accept a "donation" for some. Will let you guys know in case many of you want one or two.

    aaahhh Just nose 'n, I just saw your post. I will try to track some down or at least find out when more will be available. Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    I feel assured that OSBI has all of the information and much more.

    Just because we don't know all the particulars doesn't mean they don't.

    They may not want to release the TOD so that the killers will know they know. That way when they interrogate them they cant doctor a made up alibi beforehand.

    imoo
    I so, so, so hope we're right OBE!!! I could not bear to see this case go unsolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c2cd208 View Post
    Do I need to stop in the Pig Out Palace and see whats up there? Just let me know. I have stopped there many times and dont mind doing so when I am there again.

    If you go, I would like to know if Uncle Joe was there the night of the murders yapping about it. And if he WAS,
    * what did he say ?
    * how did he act ?
    * how long did he stay?
    * was he alone ?

    Thanks gal !!!
    ps enjoy the food

    I miss Southern cooking ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaGiGi View Post
    If you go, I would like to know if Uncle Joe was there the night of the murders yapping about it. And if he WAS,
    * what did he say ?
    * how did he act ?
    * how long did he stay?
    * was he alone ?

    Thanks gal !!!
    ps enjoy the food

    I miss Southern cooking ........
    Will do dear. I can not remember if that place is open 24 or not. Its been a little while. Were loading now and it will be VERY late when were there tomarrow night. Anyone know if they are open 24? We got messed up on our trip back and were sitting at Coores in Colorado still. Dont know when we will get out of here. Were loaded, but we were over gross and had to come back to get the weight right and they still have not touched the trailer again.

    PS: I love real southern cooking too. In fact I just love food! LOL I cook at home and we bring it with us and warm things up. I also have decent freezer space so we can freeze a lot of things and bring too. I am not huge on eating out. We mostly eat our own food but we do sit down a couple of times a week to eat, and always say the stuff in the truck is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c2cd208 View Post
    Will do dear. I can not remember if that place is open 24 or not. Its been a little while. Were loading now and it will be VERY late when were there tomarrow night. Anyone know if they are open 24? We got messed up on our trip back and were sitting at Coores in Colorado still. Dont know when we will get out of here. Were loaded, but we were over gross and had to come back to get the weight right and they still have not touched the trailer again.

    PS: I love real southern cooking too. In fact I just love food! LOL I cook at home and we bring it with us and warm things up. I also have decent freezer space so we can freeze a lot of things and bring too. I am not huge on eating out. We mostly eat our own food but we do sit down a couple of times a week to eat, and always say the stuff in the truck is better.
    Travel safely c2cd!!! Whatever you can discover will be awesome for us here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom'sGirl View Post
    I'm not holding my breath either.

    In view of the fact that the crime scene wasn't photographed, tire tracks cast (if they were) and other evidence obtained until it was dark leaves me with doubts as to what may have been missed.

    Mix that with rain that followed, road grading, bringing in a dog days later after the road had been traveled & trampled leaves me with further doubts as to viable evidence.
    When the girls were found there was still 3 hours of daylight to work - rain did not come till about 3 AM - 10 hours after the bodies were found. CSI knew they were fighting a weather limit before they arrived and they came prepared to work fast and non-stop. The scene was photographed, video'd and the footprints and tire tracks were placed into evidence very early. OSBI had this information on display at the Okfuskee offices the next morning. There are NEWS videos of the scene as well, including one showing the evidence markers and the bullets at a distance. They brought in banks of portable lights, and other technology the 1st day - within an hour of the discovery. They did have dogs at the scene at various times for the 1st 3 days - the only dog that came later was the special "gunpowder" dog who came to sweep the areas in question to make sure they had not missed any stray bullets or casings...they had not. The entire area was swept multiple times with metal detectors and other technology was used to detect evidence. The OSBI also did GPS mapping of the entire area and the evidence locations the morning after the crimes - from the ground and the air. In the media thread much of this is documented multiple times. Much of the raw video done by the OSBI is public - you can look at it.

    Of course photos and video of the crime scene with the bodies is not going to be released to the public until a trial (if then) - that is customary. I don't believe it's important that we see that - we already know most of the information from the autopsies - that's all I need on the bodies.

    OSBI is working this case daily - as is Okfuskee County LE - and OHP. This is not "cold" and we do not even have DNA results at this point. Sadly real-life isn't like CSI with instant results - and I believe the OSBI is doing ALL the forensic and testing work - they are very highly regarded in that respect. We are just 60 days out and that is pretty much the MINIMUM time for DNA and other forensics results - I expect this to run closer to 90 days, they have numerous people to eliminate (and their tests also take time).

    I am not giving up and I am certain that OSBi and Okfuskee County are still working this case very hard. they WANT TO SOLVE THIS worse than we want them to, this means something to ALL of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c2cd208 View Post
    Will do dear. I can not remember if that place is open 24 or not. Its been a little while. Were loading now and it will be VERY late when were there tomarrow night. Anyone know if they are open 24? We got messed up on our trip back and were sitting at Coores in Colorado still. Dont know when we will get out of here. Were loaded, but we were over gross and had to come back to get the weight right and they still have not touched the trailer again.

    PS: I love real southern cooking too. In fact I just love food! LOL I cook at home and we bring it with us and warm things up. I also have decent freezer space so we can freeze a lot of things and bring too. I am not huge on eating out. We mostly eat our own food but we do sit down a couple of times a week to eat, and always say the stuff in the truck is better.
    The Pig-Out is 24 hours - the only one in Henryetta - that is why Joe Mosher was there at 4 AM on the morning AFTER the murders - he went there after leaving the crime scene at 3 AM when the OSBI was finished with most of their work. Not only my contact but several OTHER people heard about him holding court at the Pig Out after the murders and I betcha the late night staff all can tell you he was there - they would have been at work at that hour.

    That Joe Mosher was there is corroborated by several people, not just one (or even 2) random people - it was all over Henryetta at the time - I guess he spilled lots of details and garnered lots of sympathy at the time.

    Check it out - bet you'll get an earful if you talk to the right people there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerChild View Post
    When the girls were found there was still 3 hours of daylight to work - rain did not come till about 3 AM - 10 hours after the bodies were found. CSI knew they were fighting a weather limit before they arrived and they came prepared to work fast and non-stop. The scene was photographed, video'd and the footprints and tire tracks were placed into evidence very early. OSBI had this information on display at the Okfuskee offices the next morning. There are NEWS videos of the scene as well, including one showing the evidence markers and the bullets at a distance. They brought in banks of portable lights, and other technology the 1st day - within an hour of the discovery. They did have dogs at the scene at various times for the 1st 3 days - the only dog that came later was the special "gunpowder" dog who came to sweep the areas in question to make sure they had not missed any stray bullets or casings...they had not. The entire area was swept multiple times with metal detectors and other technology was used to detect evidence. The OSBI also did GPS mapping of the entire area and the evidence locations the morning after the crimes - from the ground and the air. In the media thread much of this is documented multiple times. Much of the raw video done by the OSBI is public - you can look at it.

    Of course photos and video of the crime scene with the bodies is not going to be released to the public until a trial (if then) - that is customary. I don't believe it's important that we see that - we already know most of the information from the autopsies - that's all I need on the bodies.

    OSBI is working this case daily - as is Okfuskee County LE - and OHP. This is not "cold" and we do not even have DNA results at this point. Sadly real-life isn't like CSI with instant results - and I believe the OSBI is doing ALL the forensic and testing work - they are very highly regarded in that respect. We are just 60 days out and that is pretty much the MINIMUM time for DNA and other forensics results - I expect this to run closer to 90 days, they have numerous people to eliminate (and their tests also take time).

    I am not giving up and I am certain that OSBi and Okfuskee County are still working this case very hard. they WANT TO SOLVE THIS worse than we want them to, this means something to ALL of them.

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    Oh! I so hope you're right FC! I have faith as well and will attempt to be patient - for a little while longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerChild View Post
    The Pig-Out is 24 hours - the only one in Henryetta - that is why Joe Mosher was there at 4 AM on the morning AFTER the murders - he went there after leaving the crime scene at 3 AM when the OSBI was finished with most of their work. Not only my contact but several OTHER people heard about him holding court at the Pig Out after the murders and I betcha the late night staff all can tell you he was there - they would have been at work at that hour.

    That Joe Mosher was there is corroborated by several people, not just one (or even 2) random people - it was all over Henryetta at the time - I guess he spilled lots of details and garnered lots of sympathy at the time.

    Check it out - bet you'll get an earful if you talk to the right people there...

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    Good deal on the 24/7 I know a lot of the places we stop at are starting to close at night so good to know that one is still open. Looks like that may be just the place to stop and rest tomarrow night and go in for some late night coffee to check it out. Wait staff love to talk in the EARLY morning hours to help stay awake! Thanks for the information, that gives me something to go on from here.

    Lets see what I can gleam from the Pig! I know when we went into Kelloggs, what was it last week or the week before I cant remember my days are running together, there wasnt so much as a peep. Then yesterday at Cow Poke's and Bernhard there was little talk, so maybe going a little more East to Pig will get us a little closer to someone who know's, thinks, or can give the local dish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerChild View Post
    The Pig-Out is 24 hours - the only one in Henryetta - that is why Joe Mosher was there at 4 AM on the morning AFTER the murders - he went there after leaving the crime scene at 3 AM when the OSBI was finished with most of their work. Not only my contact but several OTHER people heard about him holding court at the Pig Out after the murders and I betcha the late night staff all can tell you he was there - they would have been at work at that hour.

    That Joe Mosher was there is corroborated by several people, not just one (or even 2) random people - it was all over Henryetta at the time - I guess he spilled lots of details and garnered lots of sympathy at the time.

    Check it out - bet you'll get an earful if you talk to the right people there...

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    Aw yes, servers love to talk about the goings on.

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