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11-24-2008, 05:14 AM #101
Well, I can share my story of seizures. I am 32 now and had my first seizure when I was 22 just out of the blue. I was taken to the hospital, and they did all the tests etc....everything came back normal. I was told since it was the only one I'd ever had and the tests were all normal that I was fine......and I was for four years. That's when I had my second one, and it was worse. I bit a hole through my tongue. I was taken to the hospital again. They once again did all the tests and they once again all came back normal. The only thing the doctors and I could think of, was both times my diet and sleep were all messed up, and I was stressed. I was sent to have an EEG and mine actually did show up as completely normal. So it can happen. After a person has two seizures they are put on meds. so I was put on anti-seizure meds. That was in 2001 and since then I've had three more. The last ones I had, I was also stressed and tired at the time of them. My meds. were also too low. I seriously don't know how Casey could be sitting up laughing and feeling fine right after a grand mal. They are pretty hard on the body. Everytime I've had one, my entire body hurts, and I feel sick and tired. Anyway, I didn't mean to get off track here. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that it is possible for someone at a young age, with no health problems to have a seizure out of the blue. It is also possible for the EEG to come back normal.
I'm not sure what to think about Casey having one. I guess only the medical records can prove if she had one or not.
11-24-2008, 09:21 AM #102
I dont think it was real. or the story isnt likely to be real.
performed CPR? not without bruising, my good man, and probably broken ribs too. If you ever saw anyone who was given CPR, afterwards they are covered in horrendous bruises and usually cracked ribs, JG is a big boy, no way he truly performed CPR and didnt leave a mark and KC all perky after. She woulda been in miserable pain.
As far as seizures and the aftereffects. When I was 8 years old, one day I had a few seizures. Parents took me to the dr who was sending me home thinking it didnt sound like seizures and on the way out I had a few more. SO I was hospitalized and had every single test done - all coming out fine. Never had another to this day.
Mine were somewhat unusual I guess. I had dreams during them and vomited afterwards. Dr thought it was something else then due to the dreams until I obliged by having another one. And I sure wasnt all perky afterwards. But like I said, never after that day.
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11-24-2008, 11:34 AM #103
My SIL has grand mal seizures and lupus and is now disabled at 38 years old because her seizures are so severe.
Growing up there was a guy in my hometown that went fishing one day with his family and had a seizure - at age 22 - just out of the blue.
ETA: Perhaps if KC wasn't eating or sleeping enough, it could have brought one on. IDK - this is the craziest case ever. I wish she would request a deal in exchange for Caylee's body and go to prison and rot there for the rest of her miserable life.This post is my opinion only unless supported with a link.
WHERE IS SKY METALWALA?
MISSING SINCE 6 NOVEMBER 2011 when his mother ALLEGEDLY left him in a locked car.
She has been uncooperative with law enforcement and has seemingly moved on with her life.
11-24-2008, 11:40 AM #104
GA was asked in his interview with OCSO , and he said it did NOT happen. KC clearly made it up. The way I see it is in KC's world, lots of people are sick and lots of car accidents, some even ending in death. Lots of people in KC's world also move around and change phone numbers quite a bit This is a common theme for her to use, illness and death/harm, and relocation. JMO.
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11-24-2008, 02:52 PM #105
11-24-2008, 03:08 PM #106Caylee Anthony = Victim
Cindy's 911 call: "I found my daughter's car today, and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."
11-24-2008, 11:19 PM #107
11-27-2008, 03:23 AM #108
I read Jesse's decription of the seizure in the docs and it sounds like she had one to me. I think the seizure story is legit. He describe a pretty typical tonic-clonic seizure. I didn't realize he actually witnessed it.
11-27-2008, 05:36 AM #109
I agree, JBean, pretty hard to fake froth at the mouth and I consider Jesse to be a credible witness.When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there. - George Harrison
11-27-2008, 12:00 PM #110
The first time my son had a seizure he stopped breathing for one minute and turned blue. He was only 1 and 1/2 and so my impulse was to gi ve him mouth to mouth becuase he wasn't breathing. They later told me that when I did that it only delayed his own refelx kicking back in so , in this case it was the wrong thing to do.
So, based on the the fact that her lips turned blue , she had some frothing and the witness to this was Jesse, I think the seizure story is legit.
I was thinking maybe she had a brain tumor and that's why her behavior is so random, but that would have been ruled out immediately at seizure onset.
11-27-2008, 12:45 PM #111Former Member
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My grandmother had a history of grand mal seizures and also diagnosed as manic drepressive (now commonly known as Bipolar).
There is a lot of research being done that bipolar is actually a seizure disorder. The medications commonly used for bipolar is anti-epilectic drugs.
Another thought that has crossed my mind that could have brought on the seizure is the use of the drug Ecstasy. I have heard that after longterm use of this drug that it can shut off your dopamine. Think Britney Spears.
Could KC have been using this drug and messed her brain chemicals up and this is why she supposedly "changed" lately and her sex addiction.
I have personally seen someone use this drug. He came to my house and I didn't know he had taken it. His eyes started rolling and scared the he&& out of me. I thought he was fixing to have a seizure. After he told me what he had taken, I was pretty pizzed. I have never done the drug nor do I want to to. He even said when you take it, you just want to be touched and touch others, but once you come down, you get really depressed and numb feeling.
If there was any drug KC used, I think it was ecstasy.
11-27-2008, 12:55 PM #112Former Member
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12-21-2008, 12:58 PM #114Registered User
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Did Casey Experience Psychological Non Epileptic Seizures
Followed the case for a while and stumble on this topic while rummaging through the internet.
It was reported that KC had emergency room visits for seizures on and off. Also, I have noticed a few pictures of her where her facial expressions are dramatically asymmetric. In a self experiment I could not make my face look a lot different from side to side. Tony L reported these night terrors in his interviews.
This leads me to believe she could experienced some time in her past 'Psychological Non Epileptic Seizures'. The short story of this is that is an epileptic fit generated by psychological rather than physiological causes.
There is very strong correlation with this condition and reported abuse, and strong to mild correlation with disassociative personality disorders, and the other mental illness.
I reading all this from a power point on the subject.
12-21-2008, 01:00 PM #115Former Member
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12-21-2008, 01:01 PM #116
There is definitely something wrong with her that might explain her irrational behavior. Not that it excuses her degeneration into psychopathology, but it might.
12-21-2008, 01:05 PM #117
I find this very interesting--in a study of the Lizzie Borden case, there was some speculation that Lizzie suffered from epileptic "brownouts" (similar to blackouts where person is conscious but behaves as if drugged.) that occurred during her menstrual cycle. (I guess that's real PMS--lol) The murders of her stepmother and her father took place during this "cycle". No excuse, of course, for moral degeneracy, but perhaps an explanation of why she snapped when she did. Just a theory.
12-21-2008, 01:08 PM #118Registered User
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Also, it's been theorized that seizures are more common in sociopath's than in the general population. Especially around the time a criminal event takes place.
12-21-2008, 01:22 PM #120Registered User
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Casey reported drinking several energy drinks prior to her seizure. In light of research presented at the 59th Annual Meeting of the American Academy of Neurology, it's entirely possible this was the cause:
BOSTON—The consumption of energy drinks and other beverages that contain caffeine and other stimulants has been implicated in causing adverse CNS effects, such as seizures and cerebral vasculopathy. According to research presented at the 59th Annual Meeting of the American Academy of Neurology, large amounts of energy drinks may induce seizures in genetically susceptible persons, especially if they are taken on an empty stomach.
12-21-2008, 01:27 PM #121
When googling the subject psychopaths who appear to fake seizures you will find that it isn't common. Some people who are incarcerated for violent crimes have been studied by nuropsychologist who have found through imaging to have Left frontal brain activity on fire in laymens terms. Right brain showing little activity. You will find alot of studies on the internet. The good thing is it can't be used for defense. Brain imaging is not allowed in court. The brain made me do it is no defense. It was stated by CA I believe that KC behavior after so called seizure was alert and smiley. There are 12 forms of seizures and hers didn't seem to mimick any from the accounts of her behavior while in the ER. So drug or alchohol, hot spot on brain, tumors, unknown origin seizures, or psych problems? I was only aware of the one account reported by JG of KC having a seizure.
12-21-2008, 01:32 PM #122
I will sit on the fence with this one. Its has not been proven she even had one. The hospital could tell if it was actually one or not and without us reading the medical files we wont know if in fact it took place."Please note - this is a message board, not a blog. Thank you"... Sincerely, Tricia Griffith and the Websleuths Family
12-21-2008, 01:47 PM #123
I think she faked it.
"I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything; but I still can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do." ~Helen Keller~
Sometimes a man can meet his destiny on the road he took to avoid it.
12-21-2008, 01:51 PM #124
i believe the seizure that she was taken to the ER for was drug induced (overdose etc)
12-21-2008, 02:24 PM #125
cloraform???? and sex????
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