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    Reasonable Doubt

    I have not seen a dedicated thread regarding this subject but it has been discussed in many threads . . . I believe the Defense (Baez, Anthony's, etc.) is "building a case" of so much garbage that during the trial, there will be reasonable doubt to convict her of homicide . . .

    Also, Baez himself has stated HE has told Casey not to talk to anyone . . . LE, family, friends. Lawyers usually consult their clients who are in serius trouble to CLAM UP. Otherwise, why would there be a need not to be honest with authorities: OCPD, Child Services, FBI, a pastor, a therapist, a fellow inmate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krimekat View Post
    I have not seen a dedicated thread regarding this subject but it has been discussed in many threads . . . I believe the Defense (Baez, Anthony's, etc.) is "building a case" of so much garbage that during the trial, there will be reasonable doubt to convict her of homicide . . .
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    THANK YOU for this thread. I've been saying this for awhile. They have been building their defense since day 1. With so many questions, lies, twists and turns a jury will have a difficult time convicting "beyond a reasonable doubt". IMO having daddy's knowledge (of homicide cases) in LE and the "31"days to blur the time of death and evidence they have been creating doubt from the first day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belleyes View Post
    THANK YOU for this thread. I've been saying this for awhile. They have been building their defense since day 1. With so many questions, lies, twists and turns a jury will have a difficult time convicting "beyond a reasonable doubt". IMO having daddy's knowledge (of homicide cases) in LE and the "31"days to blur the time of death and evidence they have been creating doubt from the first day.
    Sorry. This is no OJ dream team. We've all seen and heard this before "garbage in garbage out." Baez is no Johny Cohran! So like Marc garagos with Scott Peterson, it will not work. The jury is already too smart for that.
    I do think LE arrested Casey too soon. They should have used Tony and done the same thing that they did to Scott with Amber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krimekat View Post
    I have not seen a dedicated thread regarding this subject but it has been discussed in many threads . . . I believe the Defense (Baez, Anthony's, etc.) is "building a case" of so much garbage that during the trial, there will be reasonable doubt to NOT convict her of homicide . . .

    Also, Baez himself has stated HE has told Casey not to talk to anyone . . . LE, family, friends. Lawyers usually consult their clients who are in serius trouble to CLAM UP. Otherwise, why would there be a need not to be honest with authorities: OCPD, Child Services, FBI, a pastor, a therapist, a fellow inmate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manatee View Post
    Sorry. This is no OJ dream team. We've all seen and heard this before "garbage in garbage out." Baez is no Johny Cohran! So like Marc garagos with Scott Peterson, it will not work. The jury is already too smart for that.
    I do think LE arrested Casey too soon. They should have used Tony and done the same thing that they did to Scott with Amber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manatee View Post
    Sorry. This is no OJ dream team. We've all seen and heard this before "garbage in garbage out." Baez is no Johny Cohran! So like Marc garagos with Scott Peterson, it will not work. The jury is already too smart for that.
    I do think LE arrested Casey too soon. They should have used Tony and done the same thing that they did to Scott with Amber.
    I was SHOCKED when Baez said to Greta that he could not respond to her questions (the other night On The Record) b/c it is part of his Opening Statement? Almost as damning as " . . . my daughter's been looking for. I told you my daughter was missing for a month. I just found her today. But I can't find my granddaughter. She just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself. There’s something wrong. I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car." 911 call #3

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    I also think Baez and company think the public from which a jury will be selected is stupid!

    As far as I'm concerned in order to propose arguments of "reasonable doubt" one would at least have to have a REASONABLE accounting/time line of what REALLY happened!

    NOTHING I have heard from ANY of the Anthony's is the least bit REASONABLE to consider. Even before Cindy started flapping her gums, the sheer FACT that Casey did not report her daughter missing for at least 31 DAYS, is a huge red flag, and casts the most reasonable doubt in my mind that she is innocent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by manatee View Post
    Sorry. This is no OJ dream team. We've all seen and heard this before "garbage in garbage out." Baez is no Johny Cohran! So like Marc garagos with Scott Peterson, it will not work. The jury is already too smart for that.
    I do think LE arrested Casey too soon. They should have used Tony and done the same thing that they did to Scott with Amber.
    I agree with everyone else.... this has ALWAYS been about protecting Casey against the eventual homicide charges. For her lawyer AND for her family.

    But sorry..... refusing to cooperate with LE to find your own 3 year old baby is SO offensive, SO despicable, SO inhuman.... I think the only way she'll beat the rap is if the jury is presented with a VERY solid defense & LOGICAL & SANE reason why she behaved the way she did.

    If by some miracle a jury fails to come back with a guilty verdict, Casey should contact OJ & see how that worked out for him. Maybe Casey & OJ can even host an annual golf tournament.....

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    Casey secured herself a lawyer the minute she was arrested? (I missed the beginning first week of this case).

    She was concerned about covering her actions from the get-go. But I agree, refusing to cooperate to find YOUR OWN CHILD is more than offensive. Every juror will have this train of thought....jmo of course.....because they are normal compassionate people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LI_Mom View Post
    IMaybe Casey & OJ can even host an annual golf tournament....."Our Search for Zenaida-Real Killer Golf Tournament"
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    I was thinking that reasonable doubt can be established based on the fact that the car was out of her possession for weeks a few weeks. Other people had access to that car when it was in the tow yard. One of those people could have used the car to move a body, then there's the decomp smell. Something from the car could have been removed and put in the yard so there's the explanation for the hit in the yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fandy View Post
    Casey secured herself a lawyer the minute she was arrested? (I missed the beginning first week of this case).

    She was concerned about covering her actions from the get-go. But I agree, refusing to cooperate to find YOUR OWN CHILD is more than offensive. Every juror will have this train of thought....jmo of course.....because they are normal compassionate people.
    Yes, retained within DAYS of being in jail. Maybe her former LE buddy provided her the idea of NOT SPEAKING . . . jmho
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    Quote Originally Posted by LI_Mom View Post
    .......
    If by some miracle a jury fails to come back with a guilty verdict, Casey should contact OJ & see how that worked out for him. Maybe Casey & OJ can even host an annual golf tournament.....

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    I also think Baez and company think the public from which a jury will be selected is stupid!

    As far as I'm concerned in order to propose arguments of "reasonable doubt" one would at least have to have a REASONABLE accounting/time line of what REALLY happened!

    NOTHING I have heard from ANY of the Anthony's is the least bit REASONABLE to consider. Even before Cindy started flapping her gums, the sheer FACT that Casey did not report her daughter missing for at least 31 DAYS, is a huge red flag, and casts the most reasonable doubt in my mind that she is innocent!
    But, there is actual evidence she is guilty of what?

    Was she negligent? Did Caylee die in a hot car? Or fall in family pool?

    Did she deliberately kill her daughter because Caylee was an impediment to a relationship with Anthony Lazzaro? Or to get even with her mother?

    Did a stranger find Caylee sleeping in the car while Casey partied, molest her in a dark parking lot and then stuff Caylee's body in the trunk? (kind of like the prosecutorial theory in the Jon Benet case)

    At this early point in the case while evidence is still out to be brought in that COULD pinpoint WHAT happened, the state isn't going to be rushed into filing charges.

    We all know Casey is guilty of something, but I am not sure how the state is going to PROVE a case when they don't yet know what the something is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolynna View Post
    But, there is actual evidence she is guilty of what?

    Was she negligent? Did Caylee die in a hot car? Or fall in family pool?

    Did she deliberately kill her daughter because Caylee was an impediment to a relationship with Anthony Lazzaro? Or to get even with her mother?

    Did a stranger find Caylee sleeping in the car while Casey partied, molest her in a dark parking lot and then stuff Caylee's body in the trunk? (kind of like the prosecutorial theory in the Jon Benet case)

    At this early point in the case while evidence is still out to be brought in that COULD pinpoint WHAT happened, the state isn't going to be rushed into filing charges.

    We all know Casey is guilty of something, but I am not sure how the state is going to PROVE a case when they don't yet know what the something is.

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    I think: WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SOMETHING IS. Not yelling, just to clarify. I have faith that LE is holding all the cards and not showing Baez nor the defense yet.

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