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  1. #1
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    TX - Bexar County, WhtMale 43UMTX, 20-25, GSW, set on fire, Jul'87

    I know this young man from Abilene was allegedly murdered there when he disappeared in 1981, however, I could not help but notice the similarities between him and the UID found in Bexar County 6 years later.
    No body was ever found and the confession of the alleged killer was recanted....hmmmm Highly unlikely, but possible. What do you more experienced "sleuthers" think.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/43umtx.html
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/262dmtx.html
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 05-16-2013 at 05:23 AM. Reason: fixed links

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    stats are great...the only thing that is getting me...could be TOTALLY WRONG...

    Roney Harper placed a call to sheriff 's deputies in rural Walker County, Ga. Obviously drunk, the man confessed to murdering Goettsch in Abilene. His motive was that he thought Goettsch was an undercover narcotics agent. He said he shot he shot Goettsch four times, then kicked him repeatedly. He returned a remote, undeveloped field, the murder scene, but Harper either could not or would not locate the remains.
    Roney Harper later recanted.
    Any searches done? When/where/by whom?

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    Yeah, the "confession" bothers me too. Hard to believe someone would confess to something that bad and not be some truth to it. The info given doesn't really state whether Harper was ever brought to trial or what happened after he could not/would not locate the body. I too wonder if the Abilene LE conducted other searches or if they truly believed Harper's story at all. Do you think it's enough of a possibilty with the stats being close and the sketch looking similar to send them an email just to see if they think Goettsch might have not been murdered at that time or by some stroke of luck survived the attack. It doesn't say what damage the fire did to the body of the UID....possible any scars from an attack might have been destroyed. I really would hate to just write it off going on the assumption that the confession was true and in reality it was made up or at the least a drunken embellishment of a simple fight. Thoughts??

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    https://identifyus.org/cases/4160
    The UID's dentals are on Namus, DNA not mentioned.

    The missing person is not in Namus.

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    here is a fascinating tale about Lou Goettsch. it is unclear when the piece was written but I don't see any indication that his remains have been found:

    http://corp.missouri.edu/pdf/Weinberg1.pdf

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    The NamUs link for this case is now inoperative.

    https://identifyus.org/cases/4160

    I am taking this to mean that he has been ID'd, so I will flag the thread "Identified", and move it to the Identified! Forum.

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    I don't get how he could be identified with no news coverage. I just googled it and I could not find this man anywhere except for here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    The NamUs link for this case is now inoperative.

    https://identifyus.org/cases/4160

    I am taking this to mean that he has been ID'd, so I will flag the thread "Identified", and move it to the Identified! Forum.
    According to DoeNet, they confirmed with LE that this decedent is still UNIDENTIFIED.

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    From Doe Network:
    Unidentified Male
    Date of Discovery: July 1, 1987
    Location of Discovery: Bexar County, Texas
    Estimated Date of Death: Same day as discovered
    HOMICIDE

    Lou Alan Goettsch
    Missing since March 31, 1981 from Abilene, Taylor County, Texas.
    Classification: Endangered Missing

    Maybe I'm missing something. I have been a little off the last couple days on my posts but doesn't the UID say murdered same day as discovered, if it was Lou where was he for those six years?
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