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    We Know So Little About Him....How Sad

    Please note: The pants, lighter, quarters, shoes, shirt, & necklaces ARE NOT the actual items belonging to 'Jason Doe'. They are just being used to depict what his MAY HAVE looked like. The tickets and the note did actually belong to Jason.

    This is practically all we know about Jason's life, I find it very sad when you look at it all together. We know he was wearing a pair of light blue 505 levi jeans, he was wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt from the 1995 Grateful Dead tour. I have read in articles it was a white GD t-shirt, is that correct? He was wearing either black or blue FILA athletic shoes and athletic socks. He was wearing two necklaces, one was a macrame necklace and the other a beaded necklace. Did he trade something he brought for these in the parking lot (also known as Shakedown Street)at the concert, or did he purchase them??

    He had a small star tattoo on his left arm. I am guessing he did the tattoo himself. I wonder if they could have dated the tattoo by how fresh the ink was? To me, it looks VERY recent.

    According to some articles I have read (I will have to track them down as they are on the lap top), he had 4 quarters in his pocket..that would have been enough for 5 pay phone calls back in 1995. A call would be 20 cents each, though I can't recall if you put a quarter in if you would get change back??

    He had the 2 tickets for the Grateful Dead concerts, one is for Saturday, June 24, 1995 and the other for Sunday, June 25, 1995. It looks like the one from Saturday the 24th was used. The stub off the left hand side is missing. It doesn't look like the one from Sunday, the 25th was used, either that or it was just over looked when he went in, OR was the ticket bought for somebody else and he missed them?

    Then we have the note from the 2 Carolines'. I wonder where they left the note? Was it left somewhere on Sunday? Maybe they left when he didn't show up then? Hence the unused ticket for Sunday the 25th? I wonder where Jason stayed on Saturday night? Did he stay with the 2 Carolines'? Did he see them at all during these 2 Grateful Dead concerts? Was there a special place where people would leave notes for each other? Some kind of message board sorta thing? Was the note left on a seat where Jason was supposed to be seated?

    He also had a yellow lighter in his pocket. Note by me: It was most likely a disposable BIC lighter and being he didn't have any ciggies on him and no pot in his system he may have just used the lighter like they do at the end of concerts when they want the band to do an encore/perform more songs.
    Last edited by Earthbound Misfit I; 05-14-2010 at 09:18 AM. Reason: add thought

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    Last edited by Earthbound Misfit I; 05-14-2010 at 12:15 PM. Reason: edited photo

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    Oh, how I hate correcting myself

    I do believe now that both tickets (24th & 25th) were used. I was confrazzled between tickets and stubs. Please forgive me.

    I had previously said:

    He had the 2 tickets for the Grateful Dead concerts, one is for Saturday, June 24, 1995 and the other for Sunday, June 25, 1995. It looks like the one from Saturday the 24th was used. The stub off the left hand side is missing. It doesn't look like the one from Sunday, the 25th was used, either that or it was just over looked when he went in, OR was the ticket bought for somebody else and he missed them?

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    Question the phone number? the ticket stubs?





    If someone could post in a GD forum and include the ticket seat location he had maybe that would ring a bell?

    Maybe the Carolines were sitting next to him at one of the concerts in seats next to, near him?

    Also? the phone number? maybe if in a GD forum someone could post the prefix and the name CAROLINE who was at both /all/ either concert maybe that would help?




    #789UMCO unidentified found The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
    Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery he left a note to "LIB"
    PLEASE HELP me find out who this unidentified person is so he can be buried rightfully near his family...


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    the seat he had is on there too

    Quote Originally Posted by Earthbound Misfit I View Post
    I do believe now that both tickets (24th & 25th) were used. I was confrazzled between tickets and stubs. Please forgive me.

    I had previously said:
    He paid $32.50 per ticket and the seating might jog the memory of someone?
    I can not read them well but if someone could somehow make the seating larger? Somebody might recall sitting near him?
    if we could see the seat he was in?




    #789UMCO unidentified found The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
    Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery he left a note to "LIB"
    PLEASE HELP me find out who this unidentified person is so he can be buried rightfully near his family...


    I DO NOT TOLERATE HARASSMENT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by websurfer View Post
    He paid $32.50 per ticket and the seating might jog the memory of someone?
    I can not read them well but if someone could somehow make the seating larger? Somebody might recall sitting near him?
    if we could see the seat he was in?
    The tickets say
    Section 333, Row/box 16, seat 6
    Section 331, Row/box 7, seat 18

    But I believe the concert was standing, not seated, as most rock-concerts.

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    I'm sure the seats in the stadium would have been physically present for the show. The field in all likelihood would have been standing, general admission. As far as the comment that Doe "paid" $32.50, I believe that is the face price of the ticket. The tickets were bought in a large group (about a dozen as I recall) by a man in Pennsylvania who resold the tickets at the concert. Presumably, he was charging more than he paid for them, but it is also possible he sold them at less than face value to get rid of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helper View Post
    I'm sure the seats in the stadium would have been physically present for the show. The field in all likelihood would have been standing, general admission. As far as the comment that Doe "paid" $32.50, I believe that is the face price of the ticket. The tickets were bought in a large group (about a dozen as I recall) by a man in Pennsylvania who resold the tickets at the concert. Presumably, he was charging more than he paid for them, but it is also possible he sold them at less than face value to get rid of them.
    it's highly unlikely the scalper sold them for more than they were worth. that practice was not looked upon favorably in the dead community!!

    ETA: realize this is the fact forum, and i don't know for a fact that he didn't pay more than face for it, just saying that the price of the ticket was likely as stated on the ticket.

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    At least one handwriting expert with over 20 years experience says that the note reads "Caroline D." not "Caroline O."

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    Quote Originally Posted by njf520 View Post
    At least one handwriting expert with over 20 years experience says that the note reads "Caroline D." not "Caroline O."
    Thanks, I agree with that. In looking at the note, the author was Caroline T, but the second name does not appear to be caroline at all. It looks like Corrine D or something. Seems to much of a variance for a caroline to drastically change writing her own name on the next line.


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    Note wasn't found in his pocket. It was found within proximity of the vehicle and may not have even been in his original possession!

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    Does anyone know the exact size of his jeans? It might help confirm his height-or maybe challenge it...

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    Both the driver and Grateful Doe tested negative for alcohol/drugs in their systems.
    Where is Shawn Hale? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7546/0/ Missing from Apple Valley CA since 11/04/1994

    Where is Michelle Crawford? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14428/0/ Missing from Lawton, OK since 06/08/1999

    Where is Jennifer Lee Schmidt? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4822/0/ (Missing From West Lafayette IN(Purdue University) since 08/06/85.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainwater View Post
    Both the driver and Grateful Doe tested negative for alcohol/drugs in their systems.
    How do you know this? I thought reports were private.


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    The Virginia State police have stated so in press conferences and interviews. Here is the latest interview that I know of that contains the statement re: drugs/alcohol from a police source.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5208512.html

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