Correct me if I am wrong - I thought maggots only existed in decaying flesh or tissue (animal or otherwise) but NOT pizza
AND, impatientredhead, I agree TOTALLY with what you are saying...I mentioned similar earlier...just not with human decomp....LOL
My earlier post as an answer to someone elses post :
True...DMTS and DMDS are really not so bad smelling, actually....most of those chemicals aren't particularly gross to me....but, I'm a Flavor Chemist, and have dealt with them (and far more worse smells than those) on a regular basis to develop flavors for food. You'd be surprised what some of the "things" that are blended together (to make a finished flavor) smell like individually....LOL
These naturally occuring chemicals in the foods as you mentioned are waaaay beyond miniscule, and contribute little to the actual "flavor" or "smell" of those foods. Coffee has over 500 individual naturally occuring chemical components, BUT, only 10 - 20 blended in the proper combinations gives you the "actual" flavor/smell.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, it's not the actual "component" per se, but the COMBINATION of the components as a "whole" which would identify a particular odor/flavor.
AND there IS such a thing as "Pseudo Corpse"...Formulations I & II.....interesting read...go to Chapter 4.....
From the document dump today:
The documents also show there was no rotting pizza in the trunk of Casey’s car. Cindy has long claimed a horrible smell that detectives have described as the smell of death, was due to a rotting pizza.
Nope...read Chapter 4...goes thru methods used to train cadaver dogs. BUT, I'm in no way saying human body parts/blood aren't used, as well. Why "calibrate" GC/MS with a "pseudo" if dogs aren't even using it to train ?? Would be totally worthless for ID of decomp if not what dogs hit on.....the individual chemicals utilized in the pseudo scent would EXACTLY match the chemical components of human decomposition (which is where GC/MS would come into play for analysis of "actual" human decomposition chemicals in "matching" the pseudo scent). AND, I'm sure "real" human remains are also part of their training.
Thats all I'm tryin to say....
I really don't see any purpose in training with them with all the bodies which are donated to science labs now. Any teaching university would have cadaver parts for training. It only takes minute pieces to train effectively. We train with specifics in addition to cadaver scent. We use blood, bone, hair, etc.
Casper just finished with encasement in concrete, buried under 5" of concrete and passed.
That's really interesting !! Which state's do you train dogs for ?? Maybe the training manual I was referencing is just for smaller LE forces.....they also went into the handlers testifying at trials, and info they need to keep records on in order to give reliable testimony. Some good stuff you do. Oh, well.....we never know it all.....when you stop learning, you stop living, right???
Ok...so we finally find out that there was only a box for the pizza, but no pizza. All those experiments for naught. But, now I wonder, where the heck did Cindy came up with this story? She repeated it so many times that obviously it was rehearsed. Surely she knew there wasn't any pizza in the box, right? If that's the case, then that whole convo about the smell with George, "It was the pizza, right George?" is a bunch of baloney. Honestly, I don't think I can trust any of the conversation the As had with LE now. But, who the heck gave them THAT story to put out? We knew the maggots could be a missing piece to the puzzle. Now that I know they were there and the pizza was not, I can state unequivocally that there was a dead body in the trunk (there's always that nagging thought!). So why WAS this trunk so clean?
I'm wondering if the FBI/CSI found some of those maggots in that trunk if they can test them for DNA purposes?
If they can do that it would show the DNA of Caylee..wonder if that was done???
ETA: so there was unwrapped pizza?