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  1. #16
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    I just did:

    "I am a member of an internet forum called Websleuths, and we are seeking to identify an unidentified young man who died in a car accident on June 27, 1995. He was between 16-21 years of age, and may have been named "Jason." He was between 5'7-5'9, 169 lbs., and had light brown/dark blond hair that may have been dyed red at some point. He may have been following the Grateful Dead. For more information, please see http://doenetwork.org/cases/127umva.html and leave a message here if you knew this young man. Thank you."

    yikes, I hope I don't get a bunch of wacko messages!

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    In response to Marion's question....

    Not sure where the information originally came from - I don't remember seeing it before. But here's what I found.....


    http://websleuths.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=487


    http://websleuths.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=425

  3. #18
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    The man standing in the crowd with the red curly hair seemed to have a moustache to me and he looked a little too old to be Jason. It was a great find though.

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    Perfect teeth

    Here is what gets me. "Jason" had perfect teeth. You would think that a parent who took their child to the dentist regularly is a responsible parent. I would also tend to think that a responsible parent would be searching for their child.



    These are not facts, but thoughts:
    • Jason's parents are elderly and are not familiar with how to use the internet.
    • Jason's parents are deceased.
    • Jason was an only child and therefore would not have siblings looking for him.
    As crazy as it sounds, is there a way to contact all dentists on the east coast asking if they recognize this person? It would be time consuming, but maybe there is a way it could be done on the internet, in a forum such as this.
    Last edited by kittykat1; 08-30-2008 at 10:22 AM. Reason: clarify last statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittykat1 View Post
    Here is what gets me. "Jason" had perfect teeth. You would think that a parent who took their child to the dentist regularly is a responsible parent. I would also tend to think that a responsible parent would be searching for their child.


    Something that needs to be taken in consideration is, "Jason" went missing in 1995. If he had a history of being a runaway, most LE (during that time) wouldn't even consider filing a missing report.

    Look what happened with Tawni Lee Mazzone, formerally known as Maricopa Jane Doe. Her mother tried to report her as missing, tho, the police wouldn't file a report because of her history. Five days after that attempt Tawni is dead. However, it took more than 9 years for the family to discover that.

    I'm willing to bet that the same scenerio is going to take place with "Jason" and many of the other unidentified young people.

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    I just started reading the threads tonight and haven't made it through the first discussion thread (the 20 page one). I hope to catch up soon.

    Has anyone tried to make a comment on the forum at:

    http://www.dead.net/show/june-25-1995

    This link takes you to the Grateful Deads fan site and is for that particular concert. Maybe someone there would recognize him.
    This post is my opinion only unless supported with a link.

    WHERE IS SKY METALWALA?

    MISSING SINCE 6 NOVEMBER 2011 when his mother ALLEGEDLY left him in a locked car.
    She has been uncooperative with law enforcement and has seemingly moved on with her life.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...-6-Nov-2011-19

  7. #22
    I'm thinking that since concert was in DC and he was in VA that he was on his way home which has to be somewhere along that route...so maybe like the southeast states, texas, ok, ne, ks, tn. I also think he's definetly under 21 because if your 21 or over you bring your id to get alcohol. so because he didnt have an id he probably didnt need it because hes under 21. Is there anyway to maybe get somewhere just by narrowing down to those states where that route heads?

  8. #23
    ok so i thought i would go to myspace to work there, he already has a myspace and has over 700 friends. His myspace suggests he was going south. So just keep myspace in your mind because he's got all the same info on his page as we all know. A lot of 30 somethings have myspace so hopefully the carolines come across him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azsteph1110 View Post
    I'm thinking that since concert was in DC and he was in VA that he was on his way home which has to be somewhere along that route...so maybe like the southeast states, texas, ok, ne, ks, tn. I also think he's definetly under 21 because if your 21 or over you bring your id to get alcohol. so because he didnt have an id he probably didnt need it because hes under 21. Is there anyway to maybe get somewhere just by narrowing down to those states where that route heads?

    I think that makes a compelling argument! It doesn't seem as though he was following the next leg of the tour as the show on the 27th of June was in Michigan. Maybe he arranged to meet up with or was staying with someone who lived closer to the venue before he decided to head south?

  10. #25
    I dont know how many people on here have a myspace but i think it would definetly help if whoever does adds him as a friend because friends looks at friends pages and so on...that would kind of be a way to help get his picture farther across the internet. And to maedchenx thats exactly right about him not being a true follower his myspace says the same thing. Maybe if we went to chat rooms on all major sites (ie. aol, yahoo) we could go to a grateful dead chat room and find out how many dead head fans went to that show. Its a pretty big show. Even the moderate fans would've went.


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    At first I thought that curly redhead could possibly be him, but I dunno. That guy seems pretty tall, and our guy was an overly tall man. I don't think he'd stick UP.
    I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far. - Joe Walsh

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    I also think he's definetly under 21 because if your 21 or over you bring your id to get alcohol. so because he didnt have an id he probably didnt need it because hes under 21.
    I carried my ID with me before I turned 21, especially if I was traveling. That said, I didn't get an ID until I was about 19 and moved out and started working. I didn't drive till I was about 20, so I didn't have a license as a teenager. It is quite possible that "Jason" had simply had no reason to acquire an ID at that point in his life. Which would seem to point to him being on the younger side of the age estimate.

    In one of the previous threads, someone asked if it was possible that his wallet had been stolen at the accident scene, before medics and police arrived. I wonder if any money was found on him at all, even small change. If he was carrying around cash to purchase tickets and that brand new t-shirt, you'd think he'd at least have a little bit in change left over.

    I really want to see the police report, so some of these questions can be answered.

    Edited to add: Now that I think about it, do we know for sure the t-shirt was purchased at that concert? I know the t-shirt is from that tour, but I can't recall if it was ever established as a fact that the shirt came from that particular show. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this.
    Last edited by Shecky; 08-31-2008 at 08:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittykat1 View Post
    Here is what gets me. "Jason" had perfect teeth. You would think that a parent who took their child to the dentist regularly is a responsible parent. I would also tend to think that a responsible parent would be searching for their child.



    These are not facts, but thoughts:
    • Jason's parents are elderly and are not familiar with how to use the internet.
    • Jason's parents are deceased.
    • Jason was an only child and therefore would not have siblings looking for him.
    As crazy as it sounds, is there a way to contact all dentists on the east coast asking if they recognize this person? It would be time consuming, but maybe there is a way it could be done on the internet, in a forum such as this.
    There is also the possibility that Jason's parents could be alive and well but have written him off for some reason or Jason could have chosen to break with them. If contact was broken for acrimonious reasons that could explain his family not searching for him. Jason could have been bisexual or homosexual (a deal breaker for too many parents) or have been told 'live by our rules or get out' by strict parents or 'live according to our faith or get out' by pious parents. Perhaps he has family out there who hope he will contact them again one day when tensions have eased or he has straightened his life out.

    That is a great idea about the dentists. Maybe you could ask your dentist if there is a dental magazine or publication that most dentists subscribe to. The editor may be willing to do an article. You could also ask about the major companies that manufacture or supply dental devices (like fillings) or dental surgical equipment. They may be willing to mail out a NCMEC flier of Jason with their products. I doubt it but it's worth a shot. Red hair is just uncommon enough for a dentist or orthodotist to perhaps remember him.

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    Personally, I don't think why a family hasn't reported someone missing is really important to gaining their identity. The circumstances are too numerous to count in regards to why there is no missing person file on JD. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. We have to work around it. Even in a worst case scenario where no one is looking for this guy, the fact is that we are. We're all looking for him.
    nothing seems black when i see your red shoes

  15. #30
    i thought about the fact that maybe he bought the shirt at the concert but i figured that wouldn't help us at all so it doesnt matter if he had it prior or not. I put a blog on my myspace about our guy and told my friends to put him as a friend just so we could display his picture and info across the internet more.

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