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    All About Chloroform#2

    The first thread has 42 pages to it. Can one of the mods please lock it?

    Thanks,

    Salem
    Last edited by JBean; 09-09-2008 at 08:28 PM.


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    Originally posted by JBean: Just to help in these situations, at the top of each thread is a functuion called search this thread. Often you can put in a key term and see what pops up within this thread only. Try doing a search on the word *level* and see if any results produce useful information to you.
    Just my helpful hint of the day

    JBean - thank you for this tip. I'm still learning my way around here

    OKAY - back to chloroform. I read in the other thread much discussion about whether or not the maggots and flys would survive under chloroform and it seems the general consenus it that they would not. BUT would they survive if they were in the plastic trash bag? It seems to me that the maggots were in the trash bag that was thrown away.

    I think this is a key issue as to when the chloroform was used.

    Salem


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    I'm pretty sure it was said there were flies in the trunk, that escaped when trunk was opened at the tow lot. I did a forum search and there are many references, but I don't have a link the original statement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by treeseeker View Post
    I'm pretty sure it was said there were flies in the trunk, that escaped when trunk was opened at the tow lot. I did a forum search and there are many references, but I don't have a link the original statement.
    yes there was, including bug entemology and apparently the flies that came out at the lot when they opened the trunk and found the pizza box and the trash bag (was discared oiver the fence-later recovered by police) were sceond generation flies according to some bug research.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Friptzap View Post
    yes there was, including bug entemology and apparently the flies that came out at the lot when they opened the trunk and found the pizza box and the trash bag (was discared oiver the fence-later recovered by police) were sceond generation flies according to some bug research.
    didn't they also say there were maggots in the trunk?

    who gets maggots from old pizza? they don't like pizza.


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    Quote Originally Posted by future criminologist View Post
    didn't they also say there were maggots in the trunk?

    who gets maggots from old pizza? they don't like pizza.
    okay, i have to admit housecleaning is probably NOT my fortay! (lol) but i had 2 pieces of pizza that were in the bottom of a kitchen sized green plastic trashcan that I keep on my by patio. they were underneath the trash bag and must have been there for a month or more (fuzzy here as we order pizza out alot) anyways my point being i kept wondering why, why, why did we have all these flies. I thought i had cleaned everything well enough and finally checked in the bottom and found the pizza. Here is a description of it, it was TOTALLY black. But, there was no smell, just flies and maggots. I live in SW texas and this was recently and temps have been consistently upper 90's with very little rain. I immediately blew off CA comment about the pizza being the source of the smell since i was in the midst of this little amateur science project of my own. So, I guess they (flies) like old pizza (prolly cuz of the pepperoni?) BUT big deal here NOT SMELL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by future criminologist View Post
    didn't they also say there were maggots in the trunk?

    who gets maggots from old pizza? they don't like pizza.
    They don't. I have seen pizza tossed in an open dumpster for a week and it doesn't smell and there are no maggors on it. It turns into something resembling shoe leather.
    I have a constitutional right to my opinion and I am stating it!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by treeseeker View Post
    I'm pretty sure it was said there were flies in the trunk, that escaped when trunk was opened at the tow lot. I did a forum search and there are many references, but I don't have a link the original statement.
    I don't understand how someone could clean with chloroform and not knock themselves out though..


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    Quote Originally Posted by shannon718 View Post
    I don't understand how someone could clean with chloroform and not knock themselves out though..
    It probably would if you were in a poorly-ventilated room. I read an article about problems with chloroform in indoor-pool areas. Not enough to knock people out, but enough to detect in their systems after swimming.


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    Context of Chloroform Searches

    Probably not release by LE, however, I wonder what context CA's computer searches took.
    When conducting an online search, wouldn't most people try to limit the results by narrowing the search parameters? If so, her queries would indicate how she intended to use it, for instance, in some specific manner: sex, cleaning, incapacitating, etc.


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    So - if bugs would not have survived the chloroform, then the chloroform was put in the car after the tow yard, right? This would lead one to believe that there was chloroform at the Anthony home and that GA &/or CA used it to try to clean the trunk stain?

    Interesting and thank you both, Friptzap and treeseeker for responding.

    Salem


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    So - if bugs would not have survived the chloroform, then the chloroform was put in the car after the tow yard, right? This would lead one to believe that there was chloroform at the Anthony home and that GA &/or CA used it to try to clean the trunk stain?

    Interesting and thank you both, Friptzap and treeseeker for responding.

    Salem
    It was reported on another thread that Cindy asked LE if they wanted any evidence out of the car the day they reported Caylee missing. It looks as though the car was at the A's residence a couple of days before LE came out to search for evidence. It is possible they cleaned the car. My question would be, was there mention of the car odor on that first police report - the day they called to report Caylee missing. Decomp, or something similar to an over-bearing car air freshener? My understanding is that chloroform is sweet, pungent, and can be found in may air fresheners.


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    Quote Originally Posted by treeseeker View Post
    My understanding is that chloroform is sweet, pungent, and can be found in may air fresheners.
    Dear Lord, I hope that isnt true hubby is in love with spraying air fresheners. I will be reading every bottle now. I get 10 bottles and if I dont hide it he will use it all in one week... I will now put this idea in his head so he will stop with the air freshener, he kills us with it..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelray View Post
    Dear Lord, I hope that isnt true hubby is in love with spraying air fresheners. I will be reading every bottle now. I get 10 bottles and if I dont hide it he will use it all in one week... I will now put this idea in his head so he will stop with the air freshener, he kills us with it..
    Turns out chloroform is used in quite a few household items - that's why I wondered if the car smelled like one of those really strong car air fresheners. There are also claims that it forms in the shower as the chlorine in the water evaporates. Between the health scares and the uh, "off-label" uses, I'm surprised it's not more closely regulated.


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    If the flies and maggots were alive and Chloroform kills flies, maggots and bugs, then wouldn't that mean that the Chloroform was introduced to the trunk after it was picked up? Bug spray/insect repellent contains Chloroform, I think GA sprayed it in the trunk to kill the maggots, flies, etc...


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