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    Madam Z?

    This just occurred to me today. I've been wondering, how if Zanny never existed, that Casey had been talking about her for years and even Caylee apparently knew her - talked about her dog..

    I have long felt like Casey's real job was "escorting" or to put it more basely, hooking. What if Zenaida was the Madam who arranged her gigs and watched Caylee while Casey was entertaining?

    What if Z was looking at the sawgrass apts. for another "shop"? Maybe sometime in the spring, Z decides to hit the road for a better more opportunistic town. No doubt she never would have told Casey her real name.

    Still - no way she kidnapped Caylee, but this might explain something. At least it gives Casey someone to pin it on.

    just a way out theory.

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    and maybe she DID normally meet Z in a stairwell, of wherever her client was and hand Caylee off. And it could explain why she was looking in clubs for her. And why she was hesitant to go to police.

    BUT it certainly doesn't explain why she wasn't upset or why she has decomp in the back of her car.

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    I agree...I think the "nanny" was someone of questionable character. And, "Zani the Nanny" was just a cute name. And could include Xanax at times. Was just reading Kiomarie's "questionable" statement....

    She approached LE? And she couldn't get her facts straight??

    It's obvious to me that she, her family are involved with this...JMO!
    Casey did say the "nanny" lived in FL, GA, NC & PR as does Kio's family.
    Kio's family includes a Zenaida.
    Another family member lives on Hopespring Drive...Is he the one that reported the shovel story? If so, then the story is untrue.

    Why have some of these persons placed their homes on the For Sale market recently?

    George Anthony said he knew "names" & they were being watched. He was going to Sanford/Deltona to check things out. Well, this is another area for some of these persons.

    IMO Casey worked as a barmaid in a strip club...I don't know why I feel this way. And I think it was Dancers Royale on Colonial. They feature a day where you can "meet the girl's at the beach" (Cocoa Beach) "Caylee is with the nanny at the beach. I posted a photo here of a barmaid that resembled Casey. So, "Universal" is a strip club IMO & just Lee knew about it. "Were you there for work or fun?"
    ...............

    IMO Casey sold Caylee for cash/drugs/apt. money
    But, it may have just been a temporary arrangement...for the summer
    To someone she knew, someonehast would love to take care of Caylee
    No wonder she had no worries.

    But, something went terribly wrong with the use of the sedative chloroform.......

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    Zenaida & Kio did say they hung out at the same clubs as Casey.
    On the Friday before June 16th....(June 13th) Casey took Caylee to Fusion! Why?!
    This may have started as a temporary solution to Casey's need for cash & some time alone with TonE...But, the chloroform did it's job too well.

    Casey took TonE to "her club" Voyage
    Supposedly, there is a "back room" There are supposed to be photos of Amy, TonE, & Casey...I just see mother of the year in the last photo......

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2356267...7605539805092/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberjack View Post
    Zenaida & Kio did say they hung out at the same clubs as Casey.
    On the Friday before June 16th....(June 13th) Casey took Caylee to Fusion! Why?!
    This may have started as a temporary solution to Casey's need for cash & some time alone with TonE...But, the chloroform did it's job too well.

    Casey took TonE to "her club" Voyage
    Supposedly, there is a "back room" There are supposed to be photos of Amy, TonE, & Casey...I just see mother of the year in the last photo......

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2356267...7605539805092/
    I see 2:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2356267...7605539805092/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2356267...7605539805092/
    Faxing death threats to a location near you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberjack View Post
    Zenaida & Kio did say they hung out at the same clubs as Casey.
    On the Friday before June 16th....(June 13th) Casey took Caylee to Fusion! Why?!
    This may have started as a temporary solution to Casey's need for cash & some time alone with TonE...But, the chloroform did it's job too well.

    Casey took TonE to "her club" Voyage
    Supposedly, there is a "back room" There are supposed to be photos of Amy, TonE, & Casey...I just see mother of the year in the last photo......

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2356267...7605539805092/
    Zenaida never said that??? please provide link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberjack View Post
    I don't think so. Maybe this is the Lake Vaj guy? AL is a little more "punky." And I don't mean punky brewster.
    Faxing death threats to a location near you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SusieClue View Post
    This just occurred to me today. I've been wondering, how if Zanny never existed, that Casey had been talking about her for years and even Caylee apparently knew her - talked about her dog..

    I have long felt like Casey's real job was "escorting" or to put it more basely, hooking. What if Zenaida was the Madam who arranged her gigs and watched Caylee while Casey was entertaining?

    What if Z was looking at the sawgrass apts. for another "shop"? Maybe sometime in the spring, Z decides to hit the road for a better more opportunistic town. No doubt she never would have told Casey her real name.

    Still - no way she kidnapped Caylee, but this might explain something. At least it gives Casey someone to pin it on.

    just a way out theory.
    The name is a name she just started using. Nobody has known this person by name prior to this incident, I need to finish this thread but so far I have documented all of the Zani the Nanny names from the second report released by the police and all of Casey's friends that know her from within that report and NOBODY said anything about knowing this nanny by the name of Zani prior to this incident. The boyfriend claims since he has known her but he also claims it has only been a few times she has been without Caylee when she was with him and I contend that he is meerly confused by when because it rhymes and that would do the trick. Anyway please read this:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...&postcount=115

    It is well documented even her best friends say its a recent occurence within the last 30 days prior to her arrest, yeah I have seen posts Cindy has supposedly come out and said something about knowing this person by name but even when Casey's best friend discussed it with her Casey's brother Lee he said he never heard it either.

    Next few nights I will get the other two documents transcribed for the Nanny timeline and see what else is available to find on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friptzap View Post
    Zenaida never said that??? please provide link.
    Casey said she attempted to go to nightclubs Zenaida frequented.
    Kiomarie said she & Casey went to the same clubs.

    True...A name is just a name. That's why I chose not to add a last name. I think those are all made up by Casey.

    TechnicalConfusion: Looks like the guy in the photo may be the owner of Voyage. I was interested in seeing pics of Amy & TonE


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    Is that Lee standing at the bar with the blonde??

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2356267...7605539805092/
    When you make a monster, sooner of later the villagers get mad and show up at your castle with torches and pitch forks. It's life. Get used to it....

    Unlike the living,when the dead speak,they do not lie.

    Tim Miller says you can't put a price on a childs life--The A's are out to prove him wrong.

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    I go back and forth between was the nanny a complete fabrication or was she an actual person.....whom KC was trying to hide the identity of.......
    Death Leaves A Heartache No One Can Heal. Love Leaves A Memory No One Can Steal. Rest In Peace Caylee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishbosoxfan View Post
    Is that Lee standing at the bar with the blonde??

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/2356267...7605539805092/
    IMO....No. Not LA.
    Death Leaves A Heartache No One Can Heal. Love Leaves A Memory No One Can Steal. Rest In Peace Caylee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberjack View Post
    I don't think that is Tony?
    "What you see and hear depends a good deal on where you are standing: it also depends on what sort of person you are." - C.S. Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by AutomaticAuttie View Post
    I don't think that is Tony?
    Nope. Not "TonE" probably just some associate at the club IMO.
    Death Leaves A Heartache No One Can Heal. Love Leaves A Memory No One Can Steal. Rest In Peace Caylee.

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