BondJamesBond
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After reading a very interesting resource posted yesterday by another WS'er regarding statement analysis I took another (completely hack/amateur) look @ Casey's statement to LE about the phone call she received from Caylee on 7/15 ~NOON. My apolgies for the length, but, I put it all here for convenience.
DISCLAIMER: I edited this portion of the transcript down for brevity. I did not intentionally change the content. I omitted some exchanges where the detectives & Casey interrupt each other for clarity.
Here's my SPECULATION:
6/15 Cindy threatens Casey with filing for custody of Caylee. The intense argument ensues. In the midst of the shouting match w/ Cindy, Casey puts the ultimatum to Caylee, "Caylee! Do you want to stay with me (Casey) or grandma (Cindy)?!?! What's it going to be?!?":furious: Caylee is frightened and she does what any child in that situation would do, she goes in fear to her primary caregiver - Cindy. This sends Casey over the edge feeling Caylee has betrayed her and justified Cindy in the process. Casey thens sets out for revenge on defenseless Caylee at the next opportunity - exactly where/how TBD.
Q: What’d your daughter say to you?
A: She said, hi mommy. And she started to tell me a story talking to me about her shoes and books and…I tried to ask her where she was…and she just kept talking about the book that she’s…reading. We have videos of her reading the story and she’s telling me the story (inaudible)…a thousand times. She’s… [Casey conveniently uses the last video she saw of Casey reading the book as the basis for this lie-on-the-fly]
Q: …she seem happy and…
A: …fine. She seemed perfectly fine. There was nothing in the background.. [Casey, unprovoked, pre-empts the 'background' question indicating she's thinking in parallel about the plausiblity of her story]
Q: …no sign of any type of stress at all?
A: Not at all.
Q: Great that’s wonderful. Let me ask you a question. Your daughter hasn’t seen you in over a month and she’s not, she
A: She was excited, she was excited, sorry, to talk to me. But at the same time it’s crazy that she didn’t get upset when she talked to me. Which…had it been my mom…I know it would have been…totally different. [Casey didn't realize she completely left emotion out of her story until LE prompted her and struggled to recover. When she does recover she fantasizes about Caylee being excited (i.e. happy) with her and upset with Cindy - the reverse of the reality of 6/15 fight. She also reveals that the Caylee=Cindy relationship is "totally different" than Casey=Caylee.]
Q: …that makes sense to you?
A: She never gets upset when she talks to me. Whether I haven’t seen her for an entire day or if I had to work late at night I didn’t see her almost an entire day until the next one. [...more supplanting of Casey's reversal of reality. "Upset" may also be jealously saying that Caylee didn't seem to care if Casey came or went as long as Cindy was there.]
Q: The last time, the last time somebody took her and you didn’t see her for five weeks was when?
A: Never.
Q: Okay. Now you haven’t seen her in five weeks. Hasn’t been in her own home, hasn’t seen her mother in five weeks. That didn’t upset her.
A: She was fine.
Q: She was fine she talked about the, y’all talked about the book. I mean is all that stuff you’re saying true, right?
A: She’s always been like that though.I don’t understand…how, but she’s always been like that.
Q: Okay but I’m getting that, but let’s get back to you say this had never happened before.
A: Uh-huh
Q: She’s never not seen you for five weeks.
A: Uh-huh.
Q: Not talking to her mother okay. She finally talks to her mother after five weeks.
You’re…you ask her where she is. You begin asking her these questions and she just wants to talk about the book, she’s happy, she’s not worried, doesn’t seem upset.
A: She’s always like that. You can even ask my mom, she’s the same way. [Casey slips big time here and reveals that Caylee doesn't react to her, as in, she doesn't run to hug Casey when she's been gone...and Cindy's "the same way". In Casey's mind, neither Caylee or Cindy care for Casey...they have each other now.]
Q: Okay, let me go back to the, when was the last time you didn’t see her for five weeks? When was the last time something like this happened where she was gone and you didn’t see her for five weeks? The last time this happened when?
A: Never.
Q: Okay so this is the first time okay.
A: This is the first time I’ve been away from her for more than a day.
Q: Okay. The first time you ever been away from her for more than a day and she wasn’t the least bit upset?
A: No.
Q: When you talked to her on the phone that day?
A: She wasn’t the least bit upset when I talked to her.
Q: She went on about, you know I miss you mommy none of that I just…she talked like you said she talked about that book and all that stuff right that’s it?
A: And when I asked her to give the phone to another adult to somebody else she was fine, she was willing to do it, but the phone hung up. She doesn’t hang up phones. [The giving of the phone is a metaphor for what happened 6/15. Caylee was "willing to do it" (i.e. go to Cindy), but, "the phone hung up"...(i.e. I put a stop to that)
Sorry for the length. I just had to get it down in one spot.
DISCLAIMER: I edited this portion of the transcript down for brevity. I did not intentionally change the content. I omitted some exchanges where the detectives & Casey interrupt each other for clarity.
Here's my SPECULATION:
6/15 Cindy threatens Casey with filing for custody of Caylee. The intense argument ensues. In the midst of the shouting match w/ Cindy, Casey puts the ultimatum to Caylee, "Caylee! Do you want to stay with me (Casey) or grandma (Cindy)?!?! What's it going to be?!?":furious: Caylee is frightened and she does what any child in that situation would do, she goes in fear to her primary caregiver - Cindy. This sends Casey over the edge feeling Caylee has betrayed her and justified Cindy in the process. Casey thens sets out for revenge on defenseless Caylee at the next opportunity - exactly where/how TBD.
Q: What’d your daughter say to you?
A: She said, hi mommy. And she started to tell me a story talking to me about her shoes and books and…I tried to ask her where she was…and she just kept talking about the book that she’s…reading. We have videos of her reading the story and she’s telling me the story (inaudible)…a thousand times. She’s… [Casey conveniently uses the last video she saw of Casey reading the book as the basis for this lie-on-the-fly]
Q: …she seem happy and…
A: …fine. She seemed perfectly fine. There was nothing in the background.. [Casey, unprovoked, pre-empts the 'background' question indicating she's thinking in parallel about the plausiblity of her story]
Q: …no sign of any type of stress at all?
A: Not at all.
Q: Great that’s wonderful. Let me ask you a question. Your daughter hasn’t seen you in over a month and she’s not, she
A: She was excited, she was excited, sorry, to talk to me. But at the same time it’s crazy that she didn’t get upset when she talked to me. Which…had it been my mom…I know it would have been…totally different. [Casey didn't realize she completely left emotion out of her story until LE prompted her and struggled to recover. When she does recover she fantasizes about Caylee being excited (i.e. happy) with her and upset with Cindy - the reverse of the reality of 6/15 fight. She also reveals that the Caylee=Cindy relationship is "totally different" than Casey=Caylee.]
Q: …that makes sense to you?
A: She never gets upset when she talks to me. Whether I haven’t seen her for an entire day or if I had to work late at night I didn’t see her almost an entire day until the next one. [...more supplanting of Casey's reversal of reality. "Upset" may also be jealously saying that Caylee didn't seem to care if Casey came or went as long as Cindy was there.]
Q: The last time, the last time somebody took her and you didn’t see her for five weeks was when?
A: Never.
Q: Okay. Now you haven’t seen her in five weeks. Hasn’t been in her own home, hasn’t seen her mother in five weeks. That didn’t upset her.
A: She was fine.
Q: She was fine she talked about the, y’all talked about the book. I mean is all that stuff you’re saying true, right?
A: She’s always been like that though.I don’t understand…how, but she’s always been like that.
Q: Okay but I’m getting that, but let’s get back to you say this had never happened before.
A: Uh-huh
Q: She’s never not seen you for five weeks.
A: Uh-huh.
Q: Not talking to her mother okay. She finally talks to her mother after five weeks.
You’re…you ask her where she is. You begin asking her these questions and she just wants to talk about the book, she’s happy, she’s not worried, doesn’t seem upset.
A: She’s always like that. You can even ask my mom, she’s the same way. [Casey slips big time here and reveals that Caylee doesn't react to her, as in, she doesn't run to hug Casey when she's been gone...and Cindy's "the same way". In Casey's mind, neither Caylee or Cindy care for Casey...they have each other now.]
Q: Okay, let me go back to the, when was the last time you didn’t see her for five weeks? When was the last time something like this happened where she was gone and you didn’t see her for five weeks? The last time this happened when?
A: Never.
Q: Okay so this is the first time okay.
A: This is the first time I’ve been away from her for more than a day.
Q: Okay. The first time you ever been away from her for more than a day and she wasn’t the least bit upset?
A: No.
Q: When you talked to her on the phone that day?
A: She wasn’t the least bit upset when I talked to her.
Q: She went on about, you know I miss you mommy none of that I just…she talked like you said she talked about that book and all that stuff right that’s it?
A: And when I asked her to give the phone to another adult to somebody else she was fine, she was willing to do it, but the phone hung up. She doesn’t hang up phones. [The giving of the phone is a metaphor for what happened 6/15. Caylee was "willing to do it" (i.e. go to Cindy), but, "the phone hung up"...(i.e. I put a stop to that)
Sorry for the length. I just had to get it down in one spot.
