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    WEDNESDAY, MAY 23: Gordon Brown (then Chancellor and PM in waiting) called and spoke with Gerry -very kind and giving encouragement.

    Feeling a bit emotional afterwards.


    A bit emotional? Just a bit???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    It's May 26th, 22 days after Maddie went missing before Kate says she loves her. I find this so odd. It was the same in all the many tv appearances. Kate never said she loved Maddie. She always said Maddie knows she is loved or something like that, always indirect, never out and out, we love you, we miss you. I always thought that was weird.

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    Absolutely Salem, that is why the "love" expressed in the diary is not Kate but her writing to an audience! Nothing more than a damage limitation exercise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtFox View Post
    That line is one of the creepiest things I've ever read about this case!

    What is it with her - is it because she is a doctor that she is obsessed with mealtimes, baths, sleep, and running? There's just a very "clinical-cold observer of herself" thing going on there, as if all of it is happening to someone else and not her.
    She is not writing as herself Thoughtfox, she is writing in the guise of someone who actually cares & she is making a darned bad job of it!

    Quote Originally Posted by poco View Post
    WEDNESDAY, MAY 23: Gordon Brown (then Chancellor and PM in waiting) called and spoke with Gerry -very kind and giving encouragement.

    Feeling a bit emotional afterwards.


    A bit emotional? Just a bit???
    Yes it's a joke isn't it!

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    Did she keep a diary before? I would be interested to compare the two.

    I would think in the diary you would see early on more wondering about what could have happened along with much more emotional writing.

    If she is more of a recorder of events at least I would expect more ideas/lists on what to do, things to check out, etc.
    IMHO

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    It looks very much written in retrospective to me.
    Is this the Journal that GMs sister asked her to write?
    The person who said Damage Limitation was right, too much unnecessary detail in parts.
    And why did M pull away from KM when it was bedtime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badhorsie View Post
    It looks very much written in retrospective to me.
    Is this the Journal that GMs sister asked her to write?
    The person who said Damage Limitation was right, too much unnecessary detail in parts.
    And why did M pull away from KM when it was bedtime?
    Yes badhorsie, this is the diary that Philomena suggested Kate keep. If I remember correctly, she started it after May 3rd but, I am not sure exactly when. It was reported a few times in September 2007 (see: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...lice-want.html).

    I have also read that this may not be the complete diary?? Waiting to hear more about that....

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    Yes, this is the journal she was supposedly told to write as a way of coping.

    The other creepy remark I saw was "Gerry gave a great performance."

    Maybe it's just an idiomatic kind of thing, but the use of the word "performance" was odd to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post

    Poor Maddie. I hope she is discovered soon and brought home. I wish I could go to Portugal and look for her around the tressels.

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    I'd like to go too! I'd like to search for her in the hills where they jogged, Kate mentions it here:
    MONDAY, JULY 23: I got up at 7.00 and went running. I was surrounded by a pack of dogs (more or less 12)—it really wasn’t a nice experience. I went to the flat, high part of the cliff as I felt really alone and a little frightened. Please God, don’t let Madeleine be buried here. Please God, make sure she’s alive. Please God, bring her back quickly to us.

    Also around the very high hill with the monument on top.....

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    It's curious that she was wondering if Madeleine was buried near where she was jogging--why would she think that? If it was truly an abduction by a pedophile, why would that be her first thought?

    I think the diary is filled with some truths and then the lies, a good lie always includes some truth.

    She really doesn't know where Madeleine was buried, and so that was sincere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texana View Post
    It's curious that she was wondering if Madeleine was buried near where she was jogging--why would she think that? If it was truly an abduction by a pedophile, why would that be her first thought?

    I think the diary is filled with some truths and then the lies, a good lie always includes some truth.

    She really doesn't know where Madeleine was buried, and so that was sincere.
    I think she knows exactly where Madeleine's body is Texana.
    She is a conniving lady & introducing these red herrings is a conscious move. This "version" of the diary is for public consumption!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnaby View Post
    I think she knows exactly where Madeleine's body is Texana.
    She is a conniving lady & introducing these red herrings is a conscious move. This "version" of the diary is for public consumption!
    Possibly, but the idea that "they" (being Gerry and the Tapas party co-conspirators) had taken Madeleine and put her somewhere--with the expressed intent that "If we do this and you don't know, you'll be better able to pass any lie detector tests or anything like that."

    She knows Madeleine is not alive and her remains are in some secret spot in Portugal or a nearby country.

    But yes, overall, she is conniving in the sense that she is being deliberately deceitful in the diary.

    After all, she knows "they are responsible parents" so anything she said or did to keep the twins would be reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texana View Post
    Possibly, but the idea that "they" (being Gerry and the Tapas party co-conspirators) had taken Madeleine and put her somewhere--with the expressed intent that "If we do this and you don't know, you'll be better able to pass any lie detector tests or anything like that."

    She knows Madeleine is not alive and her remains are in some secret spot in Portugal or a nearby country.

    But yes, overall, she is conniving in the sense that she is being deliberately deceitful in the diary.

    After all, she knows "they are responsible parents" so anything she said or did to keep the twins would be reasonable.
    I suppose it is possible that they didn't tell her where the body is but I really doubt it. I mean if a lie detector test was involved then Gerry would have to pass also & there are other issues that would fail Kate unless she genuinely didn't know that Madeleine was dead which I don't believe. I still think that she knows exactly what happened every step of the way.

    She is not only being deceitful in the diary she is trying to be manipulative but is so very transparent. The thing that gets me in all of this is how they can possibly believe that the public are so stupid not to see right through them! Darned writing in that diary is so staged it makes me ill! Definitely not the spontaneous writing as one would in a diary.

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    Yes, it definitely comes across as staged and stiff--I was trying to think what specifically makes it sound that way to me. Maybe it's just that overall it comes across as something written for other people to read, not a personal diary.

    I'll read the excerpts again to see if I can put my finger on why it comes across that way.

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    "Brush teeth. To the bedroom with the kids. M pulls away and puts her head on pillow. Kisses goodnight for M. Pulled the door to as far as possible without shutting it. Silence.

    Dry hair. Put make-up on. Glass of wine. Restaurant. "



    I'm sorry but who really keeps a diary like this? Its totally daft! Glass of wine. restaurant ... do me a favour. It must have been written after the event, which means after Madeleine was 'missing' ... so WHY?

    Its like me writing : Sat down at computer. Logged in to websleuths. Typed a message. Fed cat. Drank coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatinho View Post
    "Brush teeth. To the bedroom with the kids. M pulls away and puts her head on pillow. Kisses goodnight for M. Pulled the door to as far as possible without shutting it. Silence.

    Dry hair. Put make-up on. Glass of wine. Restaurant. "



    I'm sorry but who really keeps a diary like this? Its totally daft! Glass of wine. restaurant ... do me a favour. It must have been written after the event, which means after Madeleine was 'missing' ... so WHY?

    Its like me writing : Sat down at computer. Logged in to websleuths. Typed a message. Fed cat. Drank coffee.

    Gatinho: while I totally agree with you, I must point out someone who really keeps a diary like this! Former Florida Senator Bob Graham is famous for his diaries- here's a sample:

    12:20 p.m. to 1:20 p.m.: "Eat lunch (tuna salad). Watch Ace Ventura. 12:50: Cissy thinks she's going into labor. 1:15: Cissy preparing to leave for Baptist Hospital ... 1:30-1:45: Rewind Ace Ventura. 2:00: Adele [Graham's wife] ready to go. Drive to Baptist Hospital. 2:15: Stop at Blockbuster to return Ace Ventura." "At 5:30 I walked to my brothers house, rang the bell, and was let in. I visited with him because he's sick from 5:40 to 6:40. At 6:45 on the way home I visited the pharmacy and a suit sale at the place where I always get my suits. At 7:30 I went to the family room and tried on both suits. They fit..."

    The log for Sept. 17, 2002, begins by noting his 6:50 a.m. wake-up call, followed by a weigh-in (181 pounds) and hair care: "6:50-7:00 Apply scalp medication." That's followed by more granular detail: "7:00-7:40 Kitchen -- brew coffee -- prepare and drink breakfast (soy, skim milk, OJ, peach, banana, blueberries), read Post, dress in gray suit."
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