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    Interrogation Tactics

    I wanted to separate this from the other threads discussing the contents of the taped interviews with KC.

    Police often tell suspects that they have more evidence then they actually do, in order to get the person to confess.

    I've been going through the interviews trying to determine what could be a lie from LE. I've come up with a few possibilities.

    LE said they have video of the saw grass apts that prove KC was not there. He also mentioned that these tapes are kept for a couple of days by law. - I believe this is lie by LE to entice KC to confess. Even if saw grass does have a video surveillance it would not be pointed at the doors of residence, at least I would hope. I believe it would be at the gates of the complex and at the main office and community spots. What is the likely hood of one of these tapes lasting for more than a month? Even if it was done on a digital system, and saved on a computer the memory would have been taped over and reused.

    LE also said that the house across the street from the ex boyfriends was an old folks home. I'm currently trying to verify if that is true or not. They also said there was surveillance at this place as well.

    LE also said they had been in contact and had already interviewed everyone she had told them to interview. But during the interview a detective was receiving calls about interviews that were taking place at the same time. So I don't believe he had as much information as he wanted KC to believe he had.

    I'm not knocking the tactics of LE during the interview. But I think it would be prudent to fact check what was said by all parties and not take LE at their absolute word. It would not be beneficial to LE to tell KC exactly what they have and say now confess! They wanted to back her in a corner, impress her with more than they had a bluff her into telling them where Caylee is.

    Has anyone else found something in the tapes that LE might have used as an advantage during the interview that might or might not have been true?

    This isn't about what KC said during the interviews, but what Law enforcement said. Please stay on topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalie61 View Post
    I've been going through the interviews trying to determine what could be a lie from LE. I've come up with a few possibilities.

    This isn't about what KC said during the interviews, but what Law enforcement said. Please stay on topic.
    I notice no lies from LE, for you. Sorry

    Thanks for the reminder to stay on topic, though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalie61 View Post
    I wanted to separate this from the other threads discussing the contents of the taped interviews with KC.

    Police often tell suspects that they have more evidence then they actually do, in order to get the person to confess.

    I've been going through the interviews trying to determine what could be a lie from LE. I've come up with a few possibilities.

    LE said they have video of the saw grass apts that prove KC was not there. He also mentioned that these tapes are kept for a couple of days by law. - I believe this is lie by LE to entice KC to confess. Even if saw grass does have a video surveillance it would not be pointed at the doors of residence, at least I would hope. I believe it would be at the gates of the complex and at the main office and community spots. What is the likely hood of one of these tapes lasting for more than a month? Even if it was done on a digital system, and saved on a computer the memory would have been taped over and reused.

    LE also said that the house across the street from the ex boyfriends was an old folks home. I'm currently trying to verify if that is true or not. They also said there was surveillance at this place as well.

    LE also said they had been in contact and had already interviewed everyone she had told them to interview. But during the interview a detective was receiving calls about interviews that were taking place at the same time. So I don't believe he had as much information as he wanted KC to believe he had.

    I'm not knocking the tactics of LE during the interview. But I think it would be prudent to fact check what was said by all parties and not take LE at their absolute word. It would not be beneficial to LE to tell KC exactly what they have and say now confess! They wanted to back her in a corner, impress her with more than they had a bluff her into telling them where Caylee is.

    Has anyone else found something in the tapes that LE might have used as an advantage during the interview that might or might not have been true?

    This isn't about what KC said during the interviews, but what Law enforcement said. Please stay on topic.

    Good post.. I too noticed that they tripped over their own misinformation on that one. They say tapes are kept for several days, yet they are talking about a month before! Also, I have two kids in college who have lived at a number of different apartment complexes. We have always chosen those complexes based on the BEST security, and none of them have cameras in the exterior stairwells. Most have them at the gated entrances and clubhouse/pool and some in the parking areas, but not in "private" areas.

    If you listen carefully to the tapes, they use numerous stereotypical interrogation tactics. For example, they say that THEY have talked to Amy, and quite a few other people who are currently "giving statements" yet the dates on those statements don't match up with the date they are telling CA that they are being taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalie61 View Post
    I wanted to separate this from the other threads discussing the contents of the taped interviews with KC.

    Police often tell suspects that they have more evidence then they actually do, in order to get the person to confess.

    I've been going through the interviews trying to determine what could be a lie from LE. I've come up with a few possibilities.

    LE said they have video of the saw grass apts that prove KC was not there. He also mentioned that these tapes are kept for a couple of days by law. - I believe this is lie by LE to entice KC to confess. Even if saw grass does have a video surveillance it would not be pointed at the doors of residence, at least I would hope. I believe it would be at the gates of the complex and at the main office and community spots. What is the likely hood of one of these tapes lasting for more than a month? Even if it was done on a digital system, and saved on a computer the memory would have been taped over and reused.

    LE also said that the house across the street from the ex boyfriends was an old folks home. I'm currently trying to verify if that is true or not. They also said there was surveillance at this place as well.

    LE also said they had been in contact and had already interviewed everyone she had told them to interview. But during the interview a detective was receiving calls about interviews that were taking place at the same time. So I don't believe he had as much information as he wanted KC to believe he had.

    I'm not knocking the tactics of LE during the interview. But I think it would be prudent to fact check what was said by all parties and not take LE at their absolute word. It would not be beneficial to LE to tell KC exactly what they have and say now confess! They wanted to back her in a corner, impress her with more than they had a bluff her into telling them where Caylee is.

    Has anyone else found something in the tapes that LE might have used as an advantage during the interview that might or might not have been true?

    This isn't about what KC said during the interviews, but what Law enforcement said. Please stay on topic.
    Sorry, I don't believe that LE lied during the interview. So far as the security tapes at Sawgrass goes, if they were digital, it is not uncommon for that type of system to save the images for 90 days or even longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalie61 View Post

    LE said they have video of the saw grass apts that prove KC was not there. He also mentioned that these tapes are kept for a couple of days by law. - I believe this is lie by LE to entice KC to confess. Even if saw grass does have a video surveillance it would not be pointed at the doors of residence, at least I would hope. I believe it would be at the gates of the complex and at the main office and community spots. What is the likely hood of one of these tapes lasting for more than a month? Even if it was done on a digital system, and saved on a computer the memory would have been taped over and reused.

    .
    Not all video surveillance run constantly. Some record with movement.

    f it is a gate cam, it would turn on when a car shows up. Then it would turn off after a time of no movement. Using a whole lot less memory then one that runs constantly. Which would mean that it would take longer before it would start recording over it's self.

    Also, it depends on what the recording device is. Video tapes are rather out of style. They don't hold much, etc. Newer systems are being recorded on hard drives. Hard drives hold a whole lot more info then a tape.

    Depending what hardware is being used to store the information, the amount of information that is being added (number of camera's and frams per minute, etc) all decides how long it takes before the system starts recording over it's self.
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    I'm not going to go looking for them, but yes it is entirely possible that LE did overstate what they had or they may even have outright lied. But LE is permitted to lie to a suspect if they feel the suspect is not being honest and forthright with them. This has been litigated all the way to the Supreme Court. And the court determined that it was legal.

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    I agree, LE usually does lie during interrogations trying to entice a confession.

    And I am with you 100% on the sawgrass apartments surveillance "lie".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melly53 View Post
    Sorry, I don't believe that LE lied during the interview. So far as the security tapes at Sawgrass goes, if they were digital, it is not uncommon for that type of system to save the images for 90 days or even longer.
    The point here is not how long they COULD have existed, it is that LE SAID they kept them for a few days! If they kept them for a FEW DAYS how could they be available over a MONTH later? The point is that they proved their own untruth in that one statement. At that time, they were talking about a time span from June 9th to July 16th. In addition, NO WHERE in any subsequent statement from LE or ANYWHERE in their numerous leaks, the statements from the Sawgrass employees, no where, was there any reference at all to viewing tapes. IF THERE WERE ANY TAPES, they would have immediately seen that the dates of ZG's visit were mistaken.

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    Anyone got a direct link to the transcripts that we will be talking about in this thread??
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    I've listened to most of the interviews. I don't know anything about interrogation techniques. But, as I was listening I found myself telling the investigators to shut up and let her talk. Did anyone else get that feeling? They just kept saying the same things over and over...and they just kept talking and talking...they never really gave her a chance to continue with an answer. Whether they thought her words were lies or not, I wish they would have let her keep going...maybe if they had they may have gotten more clues out of the interview..ya know, 'there's usually some truth even in the lies"? What do you all think?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    I'm not going to go looking for them, but yes it is entirely possible that LE did overstate what they had or they may even have outright lied. But LE is permitted to lie to a suspect if they feel the suspect is not being honest and forthright with them. This has been litigated all the way to the Supreme Court. And the court determined that it was legal.
    YES... this is quite true... but remember this means that LE is also permitted to lie to the public, about anything at any time. This is the reason that the information that is out has come through "LEAKS" and "UNIDENTIFIED SOURCES" this allows them to correctly deny later in court that they released any untruthful information. It all came from unofficial and unsubstantiated sources, not THEM.

    It would also be wise of people to realize that LE does not have to believe someone is lying to them or is guilty of anything in order for them to lie when they are questioning that person. They can lie anytime they please about whatever they please. It is a "tactic" that is taught and practiced on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalie61 View Post
    I wanted to separate this from the other threads discussing the contents of the taped interviews with KC.
    Police often tell suspects that they have more evidence then they actually do, in order to get the person to confess.
    I've been going through the interviews trying to determine what could be a lie from LE. I've come up with a few possibilities.
    SNIP!
    I guess I don't get the point of this. Of course LE probably made some stuff up. They are legally allowed to do that. You can go thru the 400 pages and probably find lots of inconsistencies but why? What is the reason for doing it?
    Last edited by JBean; 09-16-2008 at 07:53 PM. Reason: fix broken quote
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breaking Heart View Post
    I've listened to most of the interviews. I don't know anything about interrogation techniques. But, as I was listening I found myself telling the investigators to shut up and let her talk. Did anyone else get that feeling? They just kept saying the same things over and over...and they just kept talking and talking...they never really gave her a chance to continue with an answer. Whether they thought her words were lies or not, I wish they would have let her keep going...maybe if they had they may have gotten more clues out of the interview..ya know, 'there's usually some truth even in the lies"? What do you all think?
    this is a tactic that police use. they often give suspect choices to choose from.
    Usually when they do, it ends up in a confession because there is no way out once a suspect deciedes to travel the path offered by a detective.

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    Kc's interviews

    Her statement at one point was:

    " I will Lie ,Cheat or Steal"
    To find my daughter then the detective tells he "we do not want you to do that,we just want you to tell the truth"

    He line was from the movie "Gone With The Wind"

    Also the name JULIETTE LEWIS
    [ an actress] in lots of movies but for some reason "Natural Born killers"
    is one of her favs?
    Read the synopsis...
    maybe that is why?


    JL has been in several movies such as that.
    I wondered also where and whose hairstyle Casey is wearing?

    The only good thing about her for me is she does have a pretty hairstyle.

    under that pretty hair is one confused young woman...




    #789UMCO unidentified found The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
    Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery he left a note to "LIB"
    PLEASE HELP me find out who this unidentified person is so he can be buried rightfully near his family...


    I DO NOT TOLERATE HARASSMENT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalie61 View Post
    I wanted to separate this from the other threads discussing the contents of the taped interviews with KC.
    Police often tell suspects that they have more evidence then they actually do, in order to get the person to confess.
    I've been going through the interviews trying to determine what could be a lie from LE. I've come up with a few possibilities.
    SNIP!
    Quote Originally Posted by MnkeyBznes View Post
    I guess I don't get the point of this. Of course LE probably made some stuff up. They are legally allowed to do that. You can go thru the 400 pages and probably find lots of inconsistencies but why? What is the reason for doing it?
    To weed out fact from fiction. I don't think we can determine everything that KC has lied about if we don't first figure if the information used by LE during the intergation was truthful or not.

    How can we say that she did not drop off Caylee at the sawgrass, if a video never existed to prove otherwise?
    Last edited by JBean; 09-16-2008 at 07:54 PM. Reason: fix broken quotes

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