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    Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #2

    Other thread was getting a bit long.

    Please reference it here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67854

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    It is my opinion that Caylee's mother has killed her child...either accidentally or premeditated.

    Her parents either know or suspect their daughter of this crime OR they are culpable in this crime.

    Nothing else makes sense.

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    I still don't think it was accidental. Two reasons why: 1-Chloroform search on internet and traces found in trunck and 2- KC out partying in mid June and acting completely normal with her boyfriend (no signs of emotional distress). If she died accidentally, there is no way any mother could move on so quickly acting as though nothing happened. Only a sociopath could do that.

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    This may be a dumb idea, but let's say George and Cindy were willing to actually try and find the child (her body). Can they determine how many miles Casey put on the car (assuming it was Caylee in the trunk) and there for determine a radius in which to search in??

    Like I said, it may be a dumb idea, I have no idea how long Casey actually had the car or if they even have any idea how many miles were on it. I'm just thinking...

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    Well, I would guess nobody but Casey will have an estimate on how many miles the car was driven lately...unless it has been in for a service. That's the kind of thing the police wouldn't miss though, so no need to ask the people who can't seem to tell the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommyto5monkeys View Post
    This may be a dumb idea, but let's say George and Cindy were willing to actually try and find the child (her body). Can they determine how many miles Casey put on the car (assuming it was Caylee in the trunk) and there for determine a radius in which to search in??

    Like I said, it may be a dumb idea, I have no idea how long Casey actually had the car or if they even have any idea how many miles were on it. I'm just thinking...
    No its not dumb - but doubtful they recorded mileage - Fear NOT - Caseys cell phone addiction is going to do her in - they know where she
    was and when by the cell phone pings - just like a few other murderers
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    I believe Casey was working as a "daytime call girl" during the time she was supposedly going to her day job and leaving Caylee with her "pimp" thinking she was safe. The pimp either killed the child or there was a terrible accident and he put the body in Casey's trunk unbeknownst to her while she was out with a client. The "pimp" disappeared, Casey returned and found that he and Caylee were gone. He left a note saying that he'd had an emergency and would be back in a few days and not to worry about Caylee because he had her with him. Casey believes him so she goes out with friends and parties the night away. Casey found out she didn't even know his real name and was unable to locate him or even truly identify him. She didn't know what had happened to Caylee until she smelled the odor coming from her trunk. She panicked, did something with the body and used chloroform to try to eradicate the smell in the trunk. She won't confess because she'd have to admit what she had been doing and is possibly protecting some high profile clients.

    Not really what I think happened, but an interesting possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I believe Casey was working as a "daytime call girl" during the time she was supposedly going to her day job and leaving Caylee with her "pimp" thinking she was safe. The pimp either killed the child or there was a terrible accident and he put the body in Casey's trunk unbeknownst to her while she was out with a client. The "pimp" disappeared, Casey returned and found that he and Caylee were gone. He left a note saying that he'd had an emergency and would be back in a few days and not to worry about Caylee because he had her with him. Casey believes him so she goes out with friends and parties the night away. Casey found out she didn't even know his real name and was unable to locate him or even truly identify him. She didn't know what had happened to Caylee until she smelled the odor coming from her trunk. She panicked, did something with the body and used chloroform to try to eradicate the smell in the trunk. She won't confess because she'd have to admit what she had been doing and is possibly protecting some high profile clients.

    Not really what I think happened, but an interesting possibility.

    wow....that's a good one...and she's terrified for her own life now....won't come clean because she doesn't know the true identities of the pimps, or they are super bad Russian mob types, or gang bangers wit big drug biz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minazoe View Post
    wow....that's a good one...and she's terrified for her own life now....won't come clean because she doesn't know the true identities of the pimps, or they are super bad Russian mob types, or gang bangers wit big drug biz.
    this actually gives Casey too much credit. She killed her daughter and I believe she did it with premeditation. imho

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    [QUOTE=YellowDog;2723336]
    I believe Casey was working as a "daytime call girl" during the time she was supposedly going to her day job and leaving Caylee with her "pimp" thinking she was safe.
    The pimp either killed the child or there was a terrible accident and he put the body in Casey's trunk unbeknownst to her while she was out with a client.
    The "pimp" disappeared, Casey returned and found that he and Caylee were gone.
    He left a note saying that he'd had an emergency and would be back in a few days and not to worry about Caylee because he had her with him.

    Casey believes him so she goes out with friends and parties the night away. Casey found out she didn't even know his real name and was unable to locate him or even truly identify him.

    She didn't know what had happened to Caylee until she smelled the odor coming from her trunk.
    She panicked, did something with the body and used chloroform to try to eradicate the smell in the trunk.
    She won't confess because she'd have to admit what she had been doing and is possibly protecting some high profile clients.

    Not really what I think happened, but an interesting possibility.[...../QUOTE]

    Hi YellowDog....Interesting possibility....and question,

    was C. involved in any type of Call-girl, mule, drug, porn, gambling or illegal activities during this year for extra money??

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    [QUOTE=Letsthink;2728654]
    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I believe Casey was working as a "daytime call girl" during the time she was supposedly going to her day job and leaving Caylee with her "pimp" thinking she was safe.
    The pimp either killed the child or there was a terrible accident and he put the body in Casey's trunk unbeknownst to her while she was out with a client.
    The "pimp" disappeared, Casey returned and found that he and Caylee were gone.
    He left a note saying that he'd had an emergency and would be back in a few days and not to worry about Caylee because he had her with him.

    Casey believes him so she goes out with friends and parties the night away. Casey found out she didn't even know his real name and was unable to locate him or even truly identify him.

    She didn't know what had happened to Caylee until she smelled the odor coming from her trunk.
    She panicked, did something with the body and used chloroform to try to eradicate the smell in the trunk.
    She won't confess because she'd have to admit what she had been doing and is possibly protecting some high profile clients.

    Not really what I think happened, but an interesting possibility.[...../QUOTE]

    Hi YellowDog....Interesting possibility....and question,

    was C. involved in any type of Call-girl, mule, drug, porn, gambling or illegal activities during this year for extra money??
    Well, that's very possible. She was obviously doing something that no one else was aware of. She was very, very secretive which makes me think she was involved deeply in something illegal.
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    [quote=YellowDog;2729594]
    Quote Originally Posted by Letsthink View Post

    Well, that's very possible. She was obviously doing something that no one else was aware of. She was very, very secretive which makes me think she was involved deeply in something illegal.
    I don't think anything like this was going on because except for some of the day time hours, KC's whereabouts were pretty well tracked by her parade of friends and her parents, in the last few months AND, if she was getting money from escorting, she'd be making alot. They do make a good amount of money. Around $2,000.00 a "date" or so, from what I have read. So why would she be stealing so much money from evryone else? $45,000.00 from her mom, money from Amy, from her brother, from her brother's friend, her grandparents, etc. Plus, she had so many boyfriends! One would think if she was heavily involved in escorting, for example, she would not have the time to date. I think this story is crazy and sordid enough as it is and while anything is possible with a nut like KC, I don't think it is more involved than a sociopathic girl who did not want to be tied down by her kid and controlled by mom, but needed her mom's support because she could not hold down a job or would not. She is a thief, a liar and an immature person who did not want to parent, so when all her theiving, lying and child neglect caught up to her, she made her baby go "missing"in a way that she thought would make her be seen as a victim, rather than as the bad guy. Sordid and complicated enough to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I don't think anything like this was going on because except for some of the day time hours, KC's whereabouts were pretty well tracked by her parade of friends and her parents, in the last few months AND, if she was getting money from escorting, she'd be making alot. They do make a good amount of money. Around $2,000.00 a "date" or so, from what I have read. So why would she be stealing so much money from evryone else? $45,000.00 from her mom, money from Amy, from her brother, from her brother's friend, her grandparents, etc. Plus, she had so many boyfriends! One would think if she was heavily involved in escorting, for example, she would not have the time to date. I think this story is crazy and sordid enough as it is and while anything is possible with a nut like KC, I don't think it is more involved than a sociopathic girl who did not want to be tied down by her kid and controlled by mom, but needed her mom's support because she could not hold down a job or would not. She is a thief, a liar and an immature person who did not want to parent, so when all her theiving, lying and child neglect caught up to her, she made her baby go "missing"in a way that she thought would make her be seen as a victim, rather than as the bad guy. Sordid and complicated enough to me!
    But where was she going when she was supposed to be working? Even her friends thought she had a day job. NO ONE can account for those unexplained times when she was supposedly "working" and yet she would leave and say she was going to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I believe Casey was working as a "daytime call girl" during the time she was supposedly going to her day job ........
    ~~snipped~~
    The first time I read this, I thought "naw."
    Now I'm really wondering. If you haven't seen the web sites she visited on her computer, go look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen Anne RN View Post
    ~~snipped~~
    The first time I read this, I thought "naw."
    Now I'm really wondering. If you haven't seen the web sites she visited on her computer, go look.

    And I'm still believing that Casey was a "daytime call girl".
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    And I'm still believing that Casey was a "daytime call girl".
    I don't. I think she would have had more disposable income, Looks like the only money she was spending was what she stole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brini View Post
    I don't. I think she would have had more disposable income, Looks like the only money she was spending was what she stole.
    She may have had debts that we don't know about. Or maybe her "pimp" was holding out on her.
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    You know, I just had this strange thought. After reading the Q&A threads with Dante and Exit, plus hearing what JG had to say, I really can't mesh this "new" Casey with the "old" Casey. It makes me wonder if that flurry of calls was because of an accident which led to GA helping her dispose of the body and giving her a "script" and maybe, just maybe, she snapped after that. Maybe her actions from 6/16 until now have been caused by a sort of PTSD after seeing her daughter dead. In her interview, she never says anything about being worried about what her Dad will think, only her mom. Could that be because he already knows? Could GA have pressured her into this cover-up scam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleA View Post
    You know, I just had this strange thought. After reading the Q&A threads with Dante and Exit, plus hearing what JG had to say, I really can't mesh this "new" Casey with the "old" Casey. It makes me wonder if that flurry of calls was because of an accident which led to GA helping her dispose of the body and giving her a "script" and maybe, just maybe, she snapped after that. Maybe her actions from 6/16 until now have been caused by a sort of PTSD after seeing her daughter dead. In her interview, she never says anything about being worried about what her Dad will think, only her mom. Could that be because he already knows? Could GA have pressured her into this cover-up scam?
    WOW, that could be very possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommyto5monkeys View Post
    WOW, that could be very possible
    I rewatched all the 1st bond hearing testimony last night/early this morning. One thing I noticed that when her mother was testifying CA cried immediately and during the whole thing. When her father got up to testify, she smiled at him (didn't cry so much) and that made me wonder whether she had a closer relationship with her dad or 'something else'. I felt something was 'going on' just because of how CA viewed her parents.

    I did want to bring this out: CA (grandma) testified that that L, the first babysitter used to come to their house to watch CA. Then it was JG and his family. CA knew them all. However, she said she had never met ZG, never had a reason to met her. Personally, I find that strange. To know the first couple of babysitters, then not to met or know the last babysitter? Never having a desire to know who is babysitting your precious grandaughter? Not to know if that person is trustworthy? I just find this really strange. Not once during the whole year that ZG was supposingly babysitting her to ever go with CA to pick up CA? I don't know. Weird to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crafter View Post
    I rewatched all the 1st bond hearing testimony last night/early this morning. One thing I noticed that when her mother was testifying CA cried immediately and during the whole thing. When her father got up to testify, she smiled at him (didn't cry so much) and that made me wonder whether she had a closer relationship with her dad or 'something else'. I felt something was 'going on' just because of how CA viewed her parents.

    I did want to bring this out: CA (grandma) testified that that L, the first babysitter used to come to their house to watch CA. Then it was JG and his family. CA knew them all. However, she said she had never met ZG, never had a reason to met her. Personally, I find that strange. To know the first couple of babysitters, then not to met or know the last babysitter? Never having a desire to know who is babysitting your precious grandaughter? Not to know if that person is trustworthy? I just find this really strange. Not once during the whole year that ZG was supposingly babysitting her to ever go with CA to pick up CA? I don't know. Weird to me.
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    just because the pings show her in the area of her house on the night of 15th June and morning of 16th June - doesn't prove that she was actually in the house. Could have been parked around the corner and waited until 16th when the calls started to parents and then she went back to the house. And Caylee sould have died the night of 15th June or early 16th
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleA View Post
    You know, I just had this strange thought. After reading the Q&A threads with Dante and Exit, plus hearing what JG had to say, I really can't mesh this "new" Casey with the "old" Casey. It makes me wonder if that flurry of calls was because of an accident which led to GA helping her dispose of the body and giving her a "script" and maybe, just maybe, she snapped after that. Maybe her actions from 6/16 until now have been caused by a sort of PTSD after seeing her daughter dead. In her interview, she never says anything about being worried about what her Dad will think, only her mom. Could that be because he already knows? Could GA have pressured her into this cover-up scam?
    These *new* revelations do seem to throw a wrinkle into the mix.
    Problem with PTSD (which was theorized on other threads) is she just doesn't seem to have the classic symptoms associated with this: anxiety, depression, panic, phobias etc.

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    Even though the posts from Casey's old friends indicate that she was once a different person old patterns can still be seen. These friends weren't lovers and were just friends to socialize with. Casey moved too fast with Tony the same as she did with Jesse. Casey complained about her mother/parents to Tony the same as Jesse. Casey had someone on the side with Jesse and then again when dating Tony. It looks to me like Casey can't handle relationships with men and freaks out when she gets in one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacey clementine View Post
    These *new* revelations do seem to throw a wrinkle into the mix.
    Problem with PTSD (which was theorized on other threads) is she just doesn't seem to have the classic symptoms associated with this: anxiety, depression, panic, phobias etc.
    not all of these are symptoms she "has" to have. my son Has PTSD which was diagnosied by 2 different drs and He has none of these symptoms the only thing he does is get into sever rages from time to time and "acts" like he is living in another reality. They can resort back to any time frame in life and live that as reality. He also went thru something very truamatic and his mind has cauesed him to "block" it out, he is only 5 but if it can effect him this way then I dont see why it cant effect kc that way. He is also Bi-polar and has slipped into sever rages tried the to attack us and then snap out of it and not remember anything. She could have one of these killed the baby in a rage and then snapped back and tried to hide it. My son has been known to live in another "reality" for weeks before snapping into the present time.

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