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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleA View Post
    You know, I just had this strange thought. After reading the Q&A threads with Dante and Exit, plus hearing what JG had to say, I really can't mesh this "new" Casey with the "old" Casey. It makes me wonder if that flurry of calls was because of an accident which led to GA helping her dispose of the body and giving her a "script" and maybe, just maybe, she snapped after that. Maybe her actions from 6/16 until now have been caused by a sort of PTSD after seeing her daughter dead. In her interview, she never says anything about being worried about what her Dad will think, only her mom. Could that be because he already knows? Could GA have pressured her into this cover-up scam?
    The issue I have with the theory that George is somehow involved, is that in the initial police statement regarding what happened, the officer says, upon returning Casey home from wild goose chase #1, GA met the officers outside and expressed strong concern that his daughter was holding back information.

    Deep down inside I don't believe CA or GA were involved... before the fact, anyway. Lee either. I think they know now that Caylee is deceased, that Casey had a hand in it, and they will do anything and everything in their power to protect her now.... perhaps because they never "protected" her in the past... they just let her go on as the disturbed sociopathic liar that she was. I think there's a lot of guilt on the part of CA and GA.


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    The drive home

    If Cindy has the type of personality I think she has, I doubt she would have waited until she got home to talk to Casey about the money that was stolen. She seems quick tempered and easily angered to me. If that's the case, it would be interesting to note Cindy's phone records and whom she may have called on that long ride home. I don't see her "stewing" about it all the way home. I bet she called somebody. If she couldn't reach Casey, she probably called George and gave him an earful.


  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    The cam showed the time being around noon while at the nursing center. If it was approximately an hour away...then I would assume the "argument" with the grandmother over the check (not verified, but mentioned by CA's brother) happened after the photos were taken. So that might leave the timeline about 3ish when they returned home?

    Clint came home from Jacksonville after visiting with his father late afternoon, IIRC. He says Casey was already there. I wish we knew the exact time he came home!

    This narrows the window further and almost too much, imo.

    Now..let's just say this for sake of debate only:

    Casey left Caylee with CA and GA when she went to Tony's that evening. She stormed out...alone.

    What happened after Casey left?
    I thought I read somewhere that CA and Caylee had dinner with CA's mom after the visit? I apologize if I'm mistaken, but I'm almost certain I read that.


  4. #34
    I agree, Jane. She would have been blazing up her phone on that long ride home. So Casey would have known what was coming...yes? Or was she going to ambush her when she got home with it? Sounds more like the scenario because Casey would have left before she arrived knowing she was going to "face the music". I bet she did call GA tho and possibly LA, too.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
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  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by JustanotherJane View Post
    I thought I read somewhere that CA and Caylee had dinner with CA's mom after the visit? I apologize if I'm mistaken, but I'm almost certain I read that.
    Does dinner mean lunch or does dinner mean dinner? LOL Older people sometimes eat earlier so could be around fivish, but it would put the return trip too late, imo. I would suspect they had lunch together as Caylee would have needed to eat around noon. They probably went around the corner to Mom's house for lunch, too.

    The check could have come up at that time. I could see her mother waiting until they were away from the grandfather to bring it up knowing how it would upset CA to save her husband the trauma.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustanotherJane View Post
    I thought I read somewhere that CA and Caylee had dinner with CA's mom after the visit? I apologize if I'm mistaken, but I'm almost certain I read that.
    This is also my understanding. After visiting her father, Cindy and Caylee went to her mother's home in Mt. Dora where they stayed for dinner.

    DT


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    SS - In case you didn't see this on the Tim Miller/LP thread:


    I looked into this a bit and was able to find some info relative to Florida
    statutes on non-consenual vehicle towing.

    It appears to me that it may be the primary responsibility of the police or sherrif to notify the registered vehicle owner their car was towed and where to pick it up but that's only an educated guess. Someone would have to call OSCO or the storage yard to find out the exact procedure and time frame for notification.

    Statute: 715.07 Vehicles or vessels parked on private property; towing.--


    2. The person or firm towing or removing the vehicle or vessel shall, within 30 minutes after completion of such towing or removal, notify the municipal police department or, in an unincorporated area, the sheriff, of such towing or removal, the storage site, the time the vehicle or vessel was towed or removed, and the make, model, color, and license plate number of the vehicle or description and registration number of the vessel and shall obtain the name of the person at that department to whom such information was reported and note that name on the trip record.

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=& URL=Ch0715/SEC07.HTM&Title=->2008->Ch0715->Section%2007#0715.07

    DT


    “Do you not know that there comes a midnight hour when every one has to throw off his mask? Do you believe that life will always let itself be mocked? Do you think you can slip away a little before midnight in order to avoid this? Or are you not terrified by it?" - Soren Kierkegaard


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    Quote Originally Posted by shannon718 View Post
    So Cindy choked Casey and Casey left with Caylee? Clint said that Casey slept at Tony's that evening.

    Cindy says she swam with Caylee and Casey wouldn't swim because it was to cold.
    Cindy also says she tucked them both into bed.

    Many many inconsistencies on that date from Cindy.
    Maybe KC didn't swim because she had left at that point (or was still PO from the fight?)


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    Thanks, DawnTreader!! I guess I did miss that post! Well..so they would know almost immediately who the car belonged to in order to start the process. It makes me wonder (as it has all along) if they chose to ignore the letters from the Tow company until July 15th. Interesting.
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    I just have this feeling that Cindy has alittle more involvment and I think Casey is covering for her becaues she is scared of her mom and probably thinks Cindy did her a favor and gave her freedom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DAWN TREADER View Post
    This is also my understanding. After visiting her father, Cindy and Caylee went to her mother's home in Mt. Dora where they stayed for dinner.

    DT



    And many people call lunch, 'dinner' and their later meal is called 'supper'. My husband is from Pittsburgh (close to Ohio) and that's how his family spoke. And especially on a Sunday, the large meal was always served sometime in the early afternoon (usually after church) and called Sunday dinner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shannon718 View Post
    June 15th: I wonder what time the fight occured and what time she showed up at Tony's. Do we have her phone records for that day? Its been so long since we have discussed those.

    So:

    Caylee goes with Cindy to Mt Dora

    Returns and Fights with Casey because she found out she stole from her Great Grandparents.

    What happens next? Who witnesses it? Lee and George?

    Cindy lies about the events of the day which makes NO sense to me. even if she was embarrassed about the fight she had with Casey that is SMALL potatoes compared to Caylee being missing.

    Why would she lie about the LAST day that Caylee was ever seen alive? Fight or no fight...that is obstruction and lying to LE ONCE AGAIN.
    Someone pointed out on the Interview thread that there was a change in CA after the last 911 call and before her first public interview. I agree. A profound change IMO.


  13. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by DAWN TREADER View Post
    This is also my understanding. After visiting her father, Cindy and Caylee went to her mother's home in Mt. Dora where they stayed for dinner.

    DT
    The nursing center is in Mt. Dora and her home is around the corner from the center, I believe. This would make it so late for them to come home and would not put Casey there at that time as she was already at Tony's according to Clint and Tony.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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  14. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by What'sThatClue View Post
    And many people call lunch, 'dinner' and their later meal is called 'supper'. My husband is from Pittsburgh (close to Ohio) and that's how his family spoke. And especially on a Sunday, the large meal was always served sometime in the early afternoon (usually after church) and called Sunday dinner.
    Exactly why I think it was actually lunch instead.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenninFla View Post
    not all of these are symptoms she "has" to have. my son Has PTSD which was diagnosied by 2 different drs and He has none of these symptoms the only thing he does is get into sever rages from time to time and "acts" like he is living in another reality. They can resort back to any time frame in life and live that as reality. He also went thru something very truamatic and his mind has cauesed him to "block" it out, he is only 5 but if it can effect him this way then I dont see why it cant effect kc that way. He is also Bi-polar and has slipped into sever rages tried the to attack us and then snap out of it and not remember anything. She could have one of these killed the baby in a rage and then snapped back and tried to hide it. My son has been known to live in another "reality" for weeks before snapping into the present time.
    If I recall the DSM-IV requires several symptoms be present in order for there to be a diagnosis.


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