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    Something that is very, very odd to me about this mess: we all assume that Casey left in a huff after the big fight with Cindy on the 15th. Perhaps Cindy threatened KC, saying I"m gonna get custody of Caylee.

    But then, according to Cindy's two-hour-long interview with LE, she BELIEVED KC's story about going to Hard Rock Hotel with Zani, Juliet, and the kids, believed the stories about the delays getting home, the "extra meeting", the "accident", etc. Cindy's descriptions of the phone conversations she had with KC lead one to believe they were getting along fine. Obviously, Cindy still trusted KC. Whatever fight they got into on the 15th, the hatchet already seemed to be buried.

    I do Caylee died at the hands of KC on the 15th or the 16th of June (undecided whether it was intentional or an accident). It's just odd to me that Cindy would believe this rediculous string of lies right after a huge fight, and right after KC was caught stealing money. No wonder KC was able to get away with so much over the years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cher352 View Post
    Personally I don't understand why the carpet was not ripped out of the trunk area and burnt. Sure you would have to have some explantion for the missing carpet but couldn't be worse that leaving the proof there.
    Bingo! this is exactly what i have been thinking, i cannot wrap my brain around the chloroform (esp. why wouldn't the flies all be knocked out too? why wouldn't GA pass out driving the car home with all those fumes? someone mentioned there was enough of those fumes to knock out the driver of the car?


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    Quote Originally Posted by txanmom View Post
    Bingo! this is exactly what i have been thinking, i cannot wrap my brain around the chloroform (esp. why wouldn't the flies all be knocked out too? why wouldn't GA pass out driving the car home with all those fumes? someone mentioned there was enough of those fumes to knock out the driver of the car?
    Dont eat me alive here but.....

    I dont think the chloroform came into play until after George brought the car home. I think he used it to try and clean what ever was in the truck up or to try and mask/or if not destroy what ever was making the horrible smell.

    I dont think Casey was using it on Caylee. Then agian I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Me View Post
    Dont eat me alive here but.....

    I dont think the chloroform came into play until after George brought the car home. I think he used it to try and clean what ever was in the truck up or to try and mask/or if not destroy what ever was making the horrible smell.

    I dont think Casey was using it on Caylee. Then agian I could be wrong.
    i agree with you here because it just doesn't make sense. i tried to google whether chloroform was an ingredient in Febreze or something like that (I know they said it was NOT a byproduct but pure chloroform, but i just wonder where you would come up with that as a cleaner in and of itself.) Anyway it sure would be nice to have the search dates and contexts for the computer/chloroform searches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by txanmom View Post
    i agree with you here because it just doesn't make sense. i tried to google whether chloroform was an ingredient in Febreze or something like that (I know they said it was NOT a byproduct but pure chloroform, but i just wonder where you would come up with that as a cleaner in and of itself.) Anyway it sure would be nice to have the search dates and contexts for the computer/chloroform searches.
    I agree.Also, I thought about this the other day. Her friend (RM I think) had the pic on his facebook/myspace about "Woo her with Cloroform". Well maybe (and I could be wrong) , maybe when KC saw it in his pics she didnt know what chloroform was and looked it up. I look up stuff all the time. It doent mean I am going to us any information I find. In fact I looked up how head shrinkers shrink heads yesterday. That doesnt mean I am going to shrink my 18 month olds head now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Me View Post
    I agree.Also, I thought about this the other day. Her friend (RM I think) had the pic on his facebook/myspace about "Woo her with Cloroform". Well maybe (and I could be wrong) , maybe when KC saw it in his pics she didnt know what chloroform was and looked it up. I look up stuff all the time. It doent mean I am going to us any information I find. In fact I looked up how head shrinkers shrink heads yesterday. That doesnt mean I am going to shrink my 18 month olds head now.
    Well I would say maybe she did but the fact it was found in the car trunk totally erases that IMO. She looked it up to use it. Plus we dont know how the search was done that will also be a clue. If in fact they did find chloroform in the trunk it was no innocent search IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txanmom View Post
    Bingo! this is exactly what i have been thinking, i cannot wrap my brain around the chloroform (esp. why wouldn't the flies all be knocked out too? why wouldn't GA pass out driving the car home with all those fumes? someone mentioned there was enough of those fumes to knock out the driver of the car?
    That has bothered me.


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    Since everything CA says has some twisted hint of truth to it, I'm really looking at the "broken rib" and laceration behind the ear statement. She mentioned the broken rib to Amy in a text and to Cindy about the car accident involving ZG. The laceration behind the ear statement must have come from somewhere and ring true in some way. Just from what we know about CA's lies in other areas...this bothers me!


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    okay i just looked up chloroform on wikipedia and one of the listed uses was to knock out mosquitos to study them. it also mentioned that it evaporates rather quickly - but in an enclosed hot area it *could* create a byproduct chemical phosgene (sp?). anyhoo, if it could knock out mosquitos why wouldn't the flies by knocked out?

    because...if she used the chloroform to kill the baby all those weeks before it was discovered and then later tested by LE ?could? it have actually lasted that long? that would be approximately one month give or take a week.

    this chloroform thing has really, really got me stumped.

    the one theory i had on it was KC was planning on making it look like a kidnapping(knowing her love of crime shows) she prolly got her idea for the chloroform/kidnapper scenario, then researched it, most likely stole it from one of the listed places one could find it and then waited to use it. But, here is where that theory goes awry, because how did it not effect her during the time she was driving in that car. (hey maybe this is what she was doing at the amscot between 7am-11am when AL picked her up she was passed out from the chloroform fumes in the car. lol)


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    Quote Originally Posted by txanmom View Post
    okay i just looked up chloroform on wikipedia and one of the listed uses was to knock out mosquitos to study them. it also mentioned that it evaporates rather quickly - but in an enclosed hot area it *could* create a byproduct chemical phosgene (sp?). anyhoo, if it could knock out mosquitos why wouldn't the flies by knocked out?

    because...if she used the chloroform to kill the baby all those weeks before it was discovered and then later tested by LE ?could? it have actually lasted that long? that would be approximately one month give or take a week.

    this chloroform thing has really, really got me stumped.

    the one theory i had on it was KC was planning on making it look like a kidnapping(knowing her love of crime shows) she prolly got her idea for the chloroform/kidnapper scenario, then researched it, most likely stole it from one of the listed places one could find it and then waited to use it. But, here is where that theory goes awry, because how did it not effect her during the time she was driving in that car. (hey maybe this is what she was doing at the amscot between 7am-11am when AL picked her up she was passed out from the chloroform fumes in the car. lol)
    Yes, but didn't she have ice pops and chicken nuggets with her when AL picked her up? If she was passed out, how did she get them and keep them cold? Assuming they were cold, that is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by What'sThatClue View Post
    Yes, but didn't she have ice pops and chicken nuggets with her when AL picked her up? If she was passed out, how did she get them and keep them cold? Assuming they were cold, that is.
    i know that last part i was just jokingnot very nice to do in light of everything, i know...


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    Quote Originally Posted by txanmom View Post
    i know that last part i was just jokingnot very nice to do in light of everything, i know...
    Oh, okay, sorry! I'm a little foggy this morning, lol. Been on here too long--I should have noticed.

    Okay, carry on....


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    [QUOTE=gitana1;2750454]
    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I don't think anything like this was going on because except for some of the day time hours, KC's whereabouts were pretty well tracked by her parade of friends and her parents, in the last few months AND, if she was getting money from escorting, she'd be making alot. They do make a good amount of money. Around $2,000.00 a "date" or so, from what I have read. So why would she be stealing so much money from evryone else? $45,000.00 from her mom, money from Amy, from her brother, from her brother's friend, her grandparents, etc. Plus, she had so many boyfriends! One would think if she was heavily involved in escorting, for example, she would not have the time to date. I think this story is crazy and sordid enough as it is and while anything is possible with a nut like KC, I don't think it is more involved than a sociopathic girl who did not want to be tied down by her kid and controlled by mom, but needed her mom's support because she could not hold down a job or would not. She is a thief, a liar and an immature person who did not want to parent, so when all her theiving, lying and child neglect caught up to her, she made her baby go "missing"in a way that she thought would make her be seen as a victim, rather than as the bad guy. Sordid and complicated enough to me!
    But where was she going when she was supposed to be working? Even her friends thought she had a day job. NO ONE can account for those unexplained times when she was supposedly "working" and yet she would leave and say she was going to work.
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    i think she just spilled the chloroform or broke it when she moved Caylee's body, forcing her to abandon the car.


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    You know what I can't figure out? Why wasn't Caylee in some sort of preschool or some sort of day care? Sine KC was a single mother with no or little income she would have qualified for free day care or limited income day care. We have that here in San Diego, not sure if they have the same programs in Orlando.


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