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    Trip to the airport

    Can someone please tell me how long it would have taken the Ramseys to drive to the Jefferson airport? has anyone read that it would have taken 30 minutes? thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terralee
    Can someone please tell me how long it would have taken the Ramseys to drive to the Jefferson airport? has anyone read that it would have taken 30 minutes? thank you.
    Hello, terralee. The trip, 15-20 mi. mostly on US 36 would normally take 20 to 30 min.
    This is my opinion, and change is good.

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    Thank you Vicktor

    Please correct me if my timeline is wrong, JR stated that he awoke at about 5:30 am Patsy shortly after that,she had herself to get dressed, makeup on, I believe Patsy still had packing to do or gift wrapping Im not sure, she also rinsed out a top of JBs both children had to be woke up,fed and theres always last minute things to do before leaving home the car had to be loaded and with a 20 minute drive to the airport how could they expect to ever make it on time, all this in an hour? I know I couldnt.

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    There are benefits in owning your own plane. You can be as late as you want for takeoff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by terralee
    Please correct me if my timeline is wrong, JR stated that he awoke at about 5:30 am Patsy shortly after that,she had herself to get dressed, makeup on, I believe Patsy still had packing to do or gift wrapping Im not sure, she also rinsed out a top of JBs both children had to be woke up,fed and theres always last minute things to do before leaving home the car had to be loaded and with a 20 minute drive to the airport how could they expect to ever make it on time, all this in an hour? I know I couldnt.
    It could have been a stretch, but maybe they were used to running a little late. Other posters have suggested that they probably got up earlier. I agree its possible but don't find fault in either senario. It seems like the first inclination would be to check the child's room, under the bed etc., then to check all the entrances to see if any were ajar, then to go to the basement to look for evidence of a breakin.
    This is my opinion, and change is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terralee
    Can someone please tell me how long it would have taken the Ramseys to drive to the Jefferson airport? has anyone read that it would have taken 30 minutes? thank you.

    terralee,

    I agree with your suspicions about the airport timeline that morning. No family in their right mind would purposely schedule themselves so tightly. IMO the Ramseys actually scheduled themselves to get up about an hour before they say they did, which would have made it 4:30 A.M., not 5:30 A.M.

    The ride to the airport would have been about 20 minutes. They had to be at the airport by 6:30 and take off at 7:00 sharp to meet the flight plan already filed by Archuleta and to redezvous with the flight in Minneapolis.

    It's also interesting to note that Mike Archuleta says he (Archuleta) got up at 4:30 A.M. to get ready for the flight, and he didn't have to worry about bundling up kids and whatnot.

    I think the Ramseys got up at 4:30 A.M., not 5:30 A.M.

    JMO

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    John stated that he took a melatonin that night to ensure a good sleep which could suggest that he was covering himself of any responsibilty for anything that occurred during the night, also after such a hectic day wouldnt it have been reasonable to set the alarm clock Ive read nothing to suggest that he did. Im puzzled BC at why you feel they got up at 4:30 if they did then why would John say 5:30? thank you for your response

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCrab
    I think the Ramseys got up at 4:30 A.M., not 5:30 A.M.
    I don't think they ever went to bed.
    And I don't believe for ONE minute that if the events hadn't transpired as they did, Patsy would have worn the same outfit she did the night before on that plane ride.
    Patsy was dressed to party, not to travel.

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    I agree, Shylock...it's not something you do. Don't get me wrong, I've had sweatpants that wanna walk to the laundry 'cos I've thrown them 3 nights in a row when I come home from work. But when you are that wealthy and you have clothes up the wazoo, not to mention paid help to make sure that they all are always clean, you do NOT wear clothes to a party AND AGAIN to travel the following morning. Even poor folk like me have party clothes and then clothes I would wear when travelling.
    Above is my opinion only

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    The Ramseys owned John Douglas's book, Mindhunter. Even if neither of them had read it, they were obviously interested in true crime topics and would have known how important clothing fibers can be in solving a case. Regardless of whether Patsy had ever changed into her jammers or nightie and gone to bed, I think she purposely wore the same clothing on the 26th that she'd worn on the 25th to account for any of her clothing fibers that might later be found on JonBenet's body, and that the main purpose of her dramatic Lazuras bit was to provide an excuse for any such fibers. Too bad she didn't know that fibers from her clothing would be found in the ligature knot, as well as in the paint tray, which was still in the basement near where JonBenet's body had lain.

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    I hate to form a committee on a dead dog, but...

    I really don't for one minute believe that a southern belle/beauty queen like PR would eat crab at the Whites house, party (whatever that entails), change into bed clothes, sleep, wake up, put on new makeup without a shower, spraysprayspray her big ole hair, and don the same clothes as the night before. Her clothes would have been pretty "fragrant" after the seafood and party atmosphere (smoke and drink), and I just don't believe she would wake up and put them back on. I have so much less money than her, I am a southern girl, and I would NEVER do so. Not to mention that she was supposed to meet Melinda's fiance for the first time when they "rendez vous-ed" for the connecting flight.

    Nope...she never went to bed. If she had, she would have bathed and she would have put on a nice clean outfit.
    Just my opinion anyway... cheers!

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    sariebell

    Please excuse me if Im having a senoirs moment here but Im sure Ive read that Patsy stated that she wanted to impress Melinda s fiance when she met him BUT Im positive Ive also read awhile back that this was not the first time she had met him, sometime prior to Dec they were all gathered together at some yachting regalia in Charlevois and if this is true this was NOT their first meeting. Come to think of it I think I read this is DOI, not sure though.
    imo

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    You're right terralee. It was at a boat thingie in Michigan, I read it somewhere but can't remember where. It might have been long ago here on WS. I remember reading a list someone posted here for some event and Stewart's name was on it. In other words, John & Patsy knew him and had met before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terralee
    Im puzzled BC at why you feel they got up at 4:30 if they did then why would John say 5:30?
    terralee,

    The Ramseys claim they didn't get up until 5:30 A.M. because then they can say there wasn't enough time for them to stage the crime and write the ransom note. They called 911 at 5:52 A.M., just 22 minutes after they say they crawled out of bed at 5:30. But I don't buy that for a minute, because that wouldn't have left enough time for them to get to the airport by 6:30 A.M.

    I think the Ramseys had the alarm set for 4:30 A.M., but got up even earlier due to the murder, maybe as a result of JonBenet's scream. The Ramseys slept with their bedroom windows open just like the Stantons across the street, and would also have heard the scream just like Melody Stanton.

    From the interviews:

    JOHN RAMSEY: "I mean we hear noises from -- when we hear noises, it was typically from outdoors from students."

    LOU SMIT: "You can hear that from your room?"

    JOHN RAMSEY: "We always slept with the windows open."

    JMO
    Last edited by BlueCrab; 05-01-2004 at 07:02 AM.

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    I agree Bluecrab. No way would they have enough time to do all that, plus get to the airport in time and I believe it was a CYA thing.

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