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  1. #46
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    Does anyone know what I need to do to access a cold case homicide file? It occurred in the 60's in Pennsylvania. Any idea of the process I need to follow? I assume such would not be online.

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    I need to find information on a murder that took place in Missouri on 8/23/2003, It was near Kansas City so I don't know the actual name it took place. I have the name of one of the victims but I don't know where to look. When I google search nothing much really comes up. Where should I search?

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    Intelius.com

    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    When I was just getting started on my father's case, April 2010, I ran his lady friend through intelius.com and bought all of the search options.

    Their report came back perfectly clean. It was not until we had a PI on board that we found her murder conviction, 7 different names, husband and a bunch more. I even had her birth date and SSN to search with.

    I have found these types good for finding addresses, neighbors and sometimes relatives but in my experience none of them are good at finding any real background info on a person.

    Butler V Saenger

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfbaynancydrew View Post
    The latest one that's actually a little bit alarming is spokeo.com

    You would be wise to type in your name and have your profile removed via the "privacy" link at the bottom right hand. It not only gives all of your public info, it gives the names of your children, your income level, credit rating, a photo of your house and more.

    Scary!

    Having said that, I use it...
    I paid for a years access to Spokeo in June 2010. Its cheap so that was not an issue. But over the last year the information you get for that has become less and less. In my opinion its not worth the fee now. It does not give you much if anything more than you can find with some careful searching.

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    Does anyone have recommendations on speech recognition software and/or programs that transcribe audio to text?

    I would like to transcribe a lengthy radio interview into text. I tried Dragon Dictation on my iPad, unsuccessfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dndacct View Post
    When I was just getting started on my father's case, April 2010, I ran his lady friend through intelius.com and bought all of the search options.

    Their report came back perfectly clean. It was not until we had a PI on board that we found her murder conviction, 7 different names, husband and a bunch more. I even had her birth date and SSN to search with.

    I have found these types good for finding addresses, neighbors and sometimes relatives but in my experience none of them are good at finding any real background info on a person.

    Butler V Saenger
    I have spent the better part of 2 hours reading through your website. You did one heck of a job for your dad. I only wish I could have done the same for my brother, but unfortunately, no resources. Good luck with all the remaining suits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    I have spent the better part of 2 hours reading through your website. You did one heck of a job for your dad. I only wish I could have done the same for my brother, but unfortunately, no resources. Good luck with all the remaining suits.

    Thanks for the support. January 6 is now Shea Saenger's sentencing date for Mail Fraud unless it is delayed yet again. It was October 2 then October 14 then December 2 and Now January 6.

    It has been over two years since I began this and while I know where most of the money that was stolen by Shea Saenger went we have yet to recover any of it. Her relatives in Arkansas, Lousiana and Mississippi are just fighting with delaying tactics trying to hang on to as much of it as then can for as long as they can. The big money is in Arkansas and our 1st trial there is set for June 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dndacct View Post
    Thanks for the support. January 6 is now Shea Saenger's sentencing date for Mail Fraud unless it is delayed yet again. It was October 2 then October 14 then December 2 and Now January 6.

    It has been over two years since I began this and while I know where most of the money that was stolen by Shea Saenger went we have yet to recover any of it. Her relatives in Arkansas, Lousiana and Mississippi are just fighting with delaying tactics trying to hang on to as much of it as then can for as long as they can. The big money is in Arkansas and our 1st trial there is set for June 2012.
    Hang in there! We're here for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    Hang in there! We're here for you.
    Friday we have a meeting at 1:45 with the US Attorneys who are prosecuting and then the sentencing hearing at 2:30. This is my only chance to stand up in front of a Federal judge and say what I think. Hoping I don't choke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dndacct View Post
    Friday we have a meeting at 1:45 with the US Attorneys who are prosecuting and then the sentencing hearing at 2:30. This is my only chance to stand up in front of a Federal judge and say what I think. Hoping I don't choke.
    You'll do great! You've been working toward this moment for so long. When you're done let us know how the meeting & hearing went.


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    Well its over. Shea Saenger was sentenced today to 46 months in prison, 3 years supervised release and restitution of over $2,161,000.

    Pres release from the US Attorneys' Office in Seattle

    It is not as much time as we wanted but it is more than we expected so I’ll call it a victory. The plea agreement called for 46 months which is what she got. What she did not get was credit for 6 and half served served on a Contempt of Court charge in Kittitas County. We were told months ago that the judge would give her credit for that time served but today he did not.

    Now all I have left to deal with are four civil suits against Saenger’s relatives and their counter suits against me
    Last edited by dndacct; 01-07-2012 at 02:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dndacct View Post
    Well its over. Shea Saenger was sentenced today to 46 months in prison, 3 years supervised release and restitution of over $2,161,000.

    Pres release from the US Attorneys' Office in Seattle

    It is not as much time as we wanted but it is more than we expected so Iíll call it a victory. The plea agreement called for 46 months which is what she got. What she did not get was credit for 6 and half served served on a Contempt of Court charge in Kittitas County. We were told months ago that the judge would give her credit for that time served but today he did not.

    Now all I have left to deal with are four civil suits against Saengerís relatives and their counter suits against me
    It never ceases to amaze me how much evil exists in this world, here you have a family just full of it. Karma will get them, I hope the courts do too. Congratulations on your win today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCoastMom View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me how much evil exists in this world, here you have a family just full of it. Karma will get them, I hope the courts do too. Congratulations on your win today.
    There are a lot of things that I could say about this branch of the Lumpkin family but I cannot do it with out just sounding petty and mean.

    I would like to take credit for the win but truth is we had some amazing good luck. One of the best things that happened was the US Postal Inspector who was assigned to investigate. She has been fantastic and I think to a certain extent she had to drag the US Attorney along kicking and screaming. I really believe that if a different person had been assigned we would have had a different out come.

    Some months back I wrote the Chief Postal Inspector commending her and I also put a plug in for her with our congressional delegation. She deserves more than that but that is all I can do.

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    hope it's ok to ask on this thread - does anyone know about how much a P.I. would cost in Texas? just for a background check, but more in depth than i could find from some place such as intelius.com? i have only the person's name, birth date and possible address, and i'm not sure that's enough info to get a complete check in other states and everything (plus can't be sure i'd get the correct person). so, i thought a p.i. might be better; but wondering about cost (?)

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    ok- i ran intellus - got a lot of info, also i ran his report thru dps (the public part of the site, found only a misdemeaor (C) there that's resolved. but nothing else - we wanted to know if he'd been in the military, his high school, college, if any, job history - has had 2 kids by 2 former girlfriends; we'd like to know if he is paying child support ... there are SO many years unaccounted for; the mom just wants to know as much as she can about this guy that is taking away the daughter - i even checked military records as best i could; but i am at a total loss of how to press forward. i know that NOW he goes to UH part time and works part-time at a local restaurant. other than that, i know his permanently mailing address (at his parents), several different apartment addresses and his date of birth, and his middle initial - initial ONLY - no name, no ssn. any was to find out more? employment record, military service, juvie court time - anything??oh please, if someone can help us, i've run thru my google and pay site sleuthy site tools

    *** any assistance/hints/tips anyone can offer will be greatly appreciated <3

    she doesn't mind paying a PI, if she can get the info she wants and as long as it's not TOO out there.
    Last edited by news247; 01-30-2012 at 01:53 AM. Reason: xplain reasoning a bit

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