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    Quote Originally Posted by Friptzap View Post
    If you mean Caylee I cannot agree more, but I don't mind throwing some time in here and there to help out some of these others.

    It gives me a break trying to read through all the new docs.

    Well it was a general we, as in me and those similarly doing so. The we I refer are the ones here that are defending her position to sue. Allthough I do not believe she will win I do believe she has a right to sue. Even though on that same note we must defend Casey's rights as well in that there does not appear to be a statute in place for ZG to win a case, In some of "we's" opinions.
    I think we have another thread on that topic.
    Please don't start posting about that in here. Two completely different topics.


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    Subsection 4 has to do with agency personel information and that's the section of 119.70 that was amended by this bill. It has nothing to do with the material released in this case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JBean View Post
    State's Atty's office. but they probably have E&O insurance LOL.
    Government attorneys generally do not have E&O insurance. Government entities are generally self insured or have a pool with other governmental entities. Ultimately, the taxpayer is the insurer.


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    Great! Just what we need...more lawyers involved in this case!

    I don't think there was any wrong doing in what was released.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
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    Quote Originally Posted by gardenhart View Post
    Subsection 4 has to do with agency personel information and that's the section of 119.70 that was amended by this bill. It has nothing to do with the material released in this case.
    Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense. I am still curious what allowed the State to release those phone records to the public with all those phone numbers in them......can anyone explain that....I have seen links to statues but Im knee deep in my own course work and not really looking to take up law :P


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    Quote Originally Posted by Friptzap View Post
    AHAH! but they gave the information to the FSAO!

    Plus that just seemed too long for the title.....

    Friptzap: The OCSD is in no way responsible for what happens to the information once it is passed on to the SAO. You need to change the name of this thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    Government attorneys generally do not have E&O insurance. Government entities are generally self insured or have a pool with other governmental entities. Ultimately, the taxpayer is the insurer.
    I was just kidding around Themis


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    Quote Originally Posted by jennjenn View Post
    Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense. I am still curious what allowed the State to release those phone records to the public with all those phone numbers in them......can anyone explain that....I have seen links to statues but Im knee deep in my own course work and not really looking to take up law :P
    They were Discovery documents. All evidence that LE collects that they plan on using in court, or that could clear her has to be turned over to the defense in discovery. Discovery must be filed with the clerks office. As a citizen you have a right to anything that is public record. Anything filed with the courts is public record. Just like you can go down and get marriage and divorce records, bankruptcy and deed records, etc. As a citizen you have a right to watch cases and see your government in action as well as reviewing these documents yourself. The laws, IIRC vary from state to state and for some reason, I think I remember that not all states are required to give things to people that do not live in their state. I was worried about that with this case because I wanted to see everything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Friptzap View Post
    AHAH! but they gave the information to the FSAO!

    Plus that just seemed too long for the title.....
    OCSO was the investigating body , once they turn it over to FSAO they are no longer responcable . I believe Cindy made a trip to FSCO to file a complaint regarding info that was released about her , concerned about identity theft. Or at least that's what she said she was there for . Kinda funny if you think about it .


    The attempt was made in most cases to blacken out info.by FSAO The media could have also done a better job concealing private info once they got their hands on it . Now I noticed in the newer doc. that they did a better job concealing private info . Live & Learn

    I have to agree thou I would be pretty upset if my private info was put out there for the taking . The parties involved do have a right to file a complaint and seek damages if they feel they are justified in doing so .
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    Once it is filed with the clerk's office, then it is public record. However, I think the media should have been more responsible in releasing that information. I would not want my personal info being viewed on every website in the country!
    Some of these people will have their names thrown around for years and this case has affected a lot of people, not just ZFG. That's all I will say about her.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TxLady2 View Post
    Once it is filed with the clerk's office, then it is public record. However, I think the media should have been more responsible in releasing that information. I would not want my personal info being viewed on every website in the country!
    Some of these people will have their names thrown around for years and this case has affected a lot of people, not just ZFG. That's all I will say about her.
    Amen to that! Normally you have to go to the hassle of going to the courts and finding what you want and paying for the copies and so most people don't exercise their rights to the stuff...very few. We are a rare breed here guys! And normally there isn't nearly as much info. I can't imagine nationwide, if not world wide having all of my business spread out like that.


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    Talking

    Another thing is when you black out things with a regular marker when faxed it will not be blacked out..learned this the hard way when I worked with sensitive materials way back when I actually worked..


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    Quote Originally Posted by HRCODEPINK View Post
    Wooooooow...that's not good. I haven't read the full statutes yet, but I can't help but wonder if they might have not even thought about it because I would be willing to bet that the law was intended to protect the officers working the case, not the ones that are witnesses. But like I said, I have not read the law, I just assume that because it makes the most sense. How often, really are LE involved in something as crazy as this...has there ever been anything as crazy as this? You know what I mean. Especially with there being multiple persons in LE! You den't expect to find someone being involved in something like this who made the rounds at the police academy. I wonder if GA counts? He wasn't LE in Florida. I'll have to come back and read that tomorrow.

    Regardless of any of it, if that is the law, it is the law and it is a good one in my opinion. Someone should be held accountable.
    To protect ALL officers from someone coming after them. Certain persons are protected in public record like that. Cops are one of them. Doesn't matter if they are a wittness or the officer of record. Someone might want that info for revenge.
    Just my opinion.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spangle View Post
    To protect ALL officers from someone coming after them. Certain persons are protected in public record like that. Cops are one of them. Doesn't matter if they are a wittness or the officer of record. Someone might want that info for revenge.
    Exactly!


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    I feel for all these people, their addresses and everything else out there for all. BTW, the FL Secretary of State's website was down this weekend for maintenance to remove SS#'s


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