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    Relationships

    Just starting a thread here so I can feel freeeee to discuss things with those of you who are open to the idea that NC may or may not have had a liason with another person, that JA may or may not have, that MH is insinuating that it is possible, that BC allluded to it... I think something is hidden here and perhaps it has nothing to do with anything about the murder... but this will allow us to at least discuss it... if anyone wants to.
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    Cygnus' comments

    "No, my question was, if taken completely out of this context (the murder), were the pictures in which BC appears with his friends (some of them female) on his site any more/less innocent than the pictures of NC with her friends?"

    Cygnus quote above

    As I have mentioned in the gen discussion, I am sure that the Cary Clique (which Brad was associated with by the way) were not perfect. Most people are not.

    I do believe that the only reason to discuss the relationships/social life (without it becoming a gossip session) would be to further understand the murder/custody case.

    Several posts have alluded to NC's affairs. I want to emphasize that although this may have been a possibility, there has been nothing recorded and nothing explicitly said. Brad and MH have implied that NC is not "innocent", so that is why we are discussing it, I think. At this point I think BC and MH are trying to make NC look irresponsible IMO. If we get more information that suggests that NC did have affairs, then that would be interesting, but what would this tell us about the murder and the custody case? These things may be worth discussing in this forum, in addition to all of the other things that will come up in discussion . . .

    JMFLU, is it possible to change the name of this thread to social context, relationships, or something along those lines? I think that may help to draw people into the thread.

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    [QUOTE=Anderson;2761170JMFLU, is it possible to change the name of this thread to social context, relationships, or something along those lines? I think that may help to draw people into the thread. [/QUOTE]


    Sure! (How does one do that?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmflu View Post
    Sure! (How does one do that?)
    Truthfully I have no idea and it may be impossible. I have never started a thread. Just a suggestion anyway.

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    Yes it can be done. Original thread starter needs to 'edit' their first post and I believe that is where the thread title can be changed. Make sure you select 'Go Advanced' in order to see the thread title.

    There is a window of opportunity to edit a post so jmflu should do it within the next 30 - 60 min I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleuthyGal View Post
    Yes it can be done. Original thread starter needs to 'edit' their first post and I believe that is where the thread title can be changed. Make sure you select 'Go Advanced' in order to see the thread title.

    There is a window of opportunity to edit a post so jmflu should do it within the next 30 - 60 min I think.
    As usual, Sleuthy knows what to do! Thanks! Done

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    I now realize that when you told me more than a year ago that two of the people in your group of friends were having an affair that it was Brad, wasn't it?

    This is the quote from one of the blogposts about the affairs. This could very well be a reference to the BC-HM affair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB in FV View Post
    I now realize that when you told me more than a year ago that two of the people in your group of friends were having an affair that it was Brad, wasn't it?

    This is the quote from one of the blogposts about the affairs. This could very well be a reference to the BC-HM affair.
    Thanks, DB!

    Wonder if "affair" can be applied to a "one time thing" as BC claimed it was.

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    I'm not going to 100% rule out that NC could have had something going on the side.......one of my motto's is "never say never".

    HOWEVER......I find it hard to believe she would be having an affair with another man (not even gonna touch the lez thing) and NOT be on birth control pills. I would think if she was taking them it would have shown up on the blood tests from the autopsy.......nothing but caffeine showed up .

    It would just be a very slippery slope to take......not using b/c......especially since her and BC weren't having relations.......just sayin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmoo View Post
    I'm not going to 100% rule out that NC could have had something going on the side.......one of my motto's is "never say never".

    HOWEVER......I find it hard to believe she would be having an affair with another man (not even gonna touch the lez thing) and NOT be on birth control pills. I would think if she was taking them it would have shown up on the blood tests from the autopsy.......nothing but caffeine showed up .

    It would just be a very slippery slope to take......not using b/c......especially since her and BC weren't having relations.......just sayin.

    "The lez thing?" That sounds kind of... well, won't go there.

    Let me just reiterate that she would have had, well, a "bi" thing, if anything at all, with another female. One doesn't automatically switch from men to women, straight to "lez" as you put it, just because of an experience with the same sex.

    I find it hard to believe she had any experiences with another man. Given that her husband would be quick to exploit it.


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    I didn't word my post right ....... the "L" word was used inappropriately I guess. What I was trying to convey is that I didn't get the feeling, nor see any info that would lead me to believe, that NC was into females.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmoo View Post
    I didn't word my post right ....... the "L" word was used inappropriately I guess. What I was trying to convey is that I didn't get the feeling, nor see any info that would lead me to believe, that NC was into females.
    No, I agree. There was nothing to indicate such. We were just commenting how BC seemed to be referring to something vague trying to get the heat off himself and we were tossing about ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahmoo View Post
    HOWEVER......I find it hard to believe she would be having an affair with another man (not even gonna touch the lez thing) and NOT be on birth control pills. I would think if she was taking them it would have shown up on the blood tests from the autopsy.......nothing but caffeine showed up .
    Why do you think BC pills would have shown up on the autopsy report? If you actually read the autopsy report, it lists the drugs that were assayed, the result, method of assay (not listed for all drugs), and the date. No assay was performed for estrogens or progestins, hence we don't know from the autopsy whether or not she was taking birth control pills.

    SPECIMENS received from John D. Butts on 15*jul*2008
    S080016834: 18.0 ml Fluid CONDITION: Decomposed
    SOURCE: Left Pleural Cavity OBTAINED: 15*jul*2008
    Caffeine ************************** Present 07/31/2008
    Cocaine ********************* None Detected ELISA 07/31/2008
    Ethanol ********************************** 60 mg/dL 07/31/2008
    Opiates ********************* None Detected ELISA 07/31/2008
    Other Organic Bases ********* None Detected 07/31/2008
    Oxymorphone ***************** None Detected ELISA 07/31/2008

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    Mmmm......that's interesting. So the ME would have to specifically test for certain drugs you're saying?
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    Boxy - curious where you got the data in your post above. This is not in the autopsy WRAL has up - is there another source ?

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