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    Quote Originally Posted by housemouse View Post
    GOP Forces Senate to Delay Vote on $410B Spending Bill


    Senate Democratic leaders are working furiously behind the scenes to gather up 60 votes to pass a $410 billion spending bill that funds the government through September.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ss-b-spending/

    It looks like the vote will be postponed until the 9th or 10th. Will be a very interesting day, I think.
    Housemouse, again I am drawn back to your charts. That is the second week of March that you had comment about before.

    As I said in an earlier post, the other board that I frequently read but do not post on, says that is the week also they think will be one of great consequence for the markets.

    We shall see?


    ETA: Unemployment rate is reported as 8.1% today, highest level since DEC 1983.
    Last edited by Kat; 03-06-2009 at 02:21 PM. Reason: saw a number that was interesting.
    "Three things in human life are important: The first is to be kind; the second is to be kind; and the third is to be kind." ~ Henry James


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    There has been so much in the news lately its so hard to keep up. I am so glad that the government issued a warning about traveling to Mexico, I do however wonder what they are doing to keep it from spilling over into the USA.
    84,000 people in Baltimore are facing the possiblity of having thier power turned off for being behind on payments.......This world is falling apart. unemployment rate is up to 8.1 in the USA, 10 percent in China,. Stocks are up just a tiny bit today but still at 6600....
    Housemouse, do you see anything in the charts pointing to ANYTHING good happening?

    Also, Housemouse would you please look at this you can read the article if you like, but what I would like you to look at is the chart for Obama, and give your interpretation of it, if you would. I don't know much about this astrologer or if this web site is even on the up and up but I was searching for a chart on Obama, because I dont know how to do charts.
    http://www.starpathvisions.com/Barac...h%20Chart.html


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    Butterfly, some think there is a "Plunge Protection Team" operating to try to shore up the markets in the late rally today.

    Most of this is completely beyond my comprehension, but if it is true, then today's late rally doesn't mean much. Here is a link to what I was trying to get my old gray head around. Maybe some of you who know more about the market than I do can explain it?

    http://www.gamingthemarket.com/2009/...a-ppt-day.html

    Now, I am off to read the article you posted, and will comment on it as soon as I can.


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    Quote Originally Posted by housemouse View Post
    Butterfly, some think there is a "Plunge Protection Team" operating to try to shore up the markets in the late rally today.

    Most of this is completely beyond my comprehension, but if it is true, then today's late rally doesn't mean much. Here is a link to what I was trying to get my old gray head around. Maybe some of you who know more about the market than I do can explain it?

    http://www.gamingthemarket.com/2009/...a-ppt-day.html

    Now, I am off to read the article you posted, and will comment on it as soon as I can.
    Thanks so much Housemouse... I am really eagerly waiting to see what you have to say about the charts that are posted on that article. I really trust your opinion, and since I do not know this website that posted this, I am really curious as your opinion on it. Thank you in advance!!!!!


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    I just gave the article a quick once-over, and I have a couple of comments to make.

    Her charts are very hard to read. I like my software a lot better, and I think it creates a cleaner and easier chart.

    I will post Obama's chart, using the "supposed" birth-time, but I am "from Missouri" about the validity of the time, as he has spent an awful lot of money on lawyers to keep his long form validated birth certificate from public view. What he is trying to hide, because it would only cost about $10 to $20 to get a copy and post it.

    Also, why he is so desperate to keep all his college records such a deep dark secret.

    Her analysis of his chart tilts toward a very negative interpretation. This is interesting, because most astrologers are very liberal, and choose to interpret Obama's chart in the most positive way possible.

    Most of you who have been reading along know that I am "conservative", and this doesn't reflect my political views, but my core values. I have been registered as an "Independant" since my first vote, years ago, and only recently switched to Repub., so I could vote in the NYS primary.

    But, I am a conservative independent, with some libertarian leanings. The latter because I do not believe we have a right to dictate the choices of others, even if we find them self-destructive. We have enough trouble living up to the Sermon on the Mount, and the Ten Commandments in our own hearts and lives.

    Ok, am going to put up Obama's chart in my next post. I thought I did it before, but there are too many charts running around in my head, and I may not have.


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    Obama's chart.

    This includes both the "easy" aspects, and the "event" aspects, which are the "stress/hard" aspects.



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    USA and Obama

    Here is the bi-wheel for the USA and Obama. USA is the central chart, and Obama is the secondary (outer ring) chart. Note that I use a different USA chart than other astrologers, all arguing about which is the "right" one to use.



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    Now that I have posted the charts, I hope all of you will notice Obama's Mars at the same degree as the USA Neptune. Think long and hard about this.

    Obama's "energy" activates our "hopes and dreams", right? That is how he got elected. To be an honest astrologer, one must think of the potential for positive and negative uses of any planetary potential. Easy aspects can be used in negative ways, and stressful or hard aspects can be used in positive ways.

    Astrology is more a language of energy than a system of prediction. If you think hard about the principles involved in the transits to both the USA chart, and Obama's chart, you can see the language in action in the daily news.

    I am not feeling very happy about Obama at this point in time, because he seems deceptive and ignorant on economic matters. He doesn't seem to understand how our capitalist system works, and thinks the re-distribution of wealth will solve economic problems. We know this has been tried before by other countries, and it just doesn't work.

    Could Obama be foolish enough to think that he can do better with socialism, communism, and/or fascism than Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini? If so, we are going to have some very hard times ahead.


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    Found another article on the website Butterfly linked, and it is also an interesting read.

    Check it out, for the more opinions the better. We can make up our own minds by watching what the man does, and not be hypnotized by what he says.

    http://www.starpathvisions.com/Obama...Formation.html

    This astrologer certainly takes a dark approach to things, and one that we can all hope is way too negative!


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    Here is a copy of Obamas birth Certificate, apparently on the Hawaii Birth certificates they list the Birth time.

    http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...ertificate.jpg

    I agree that the link I had provide was negative, however I had read tons of astrologers who were painting Obama in a "perfect" light.
    What I want to know is the truth, ya know. Is he someone we can trust? Does he have the best intrest of America in mind. My heart wants to believe in him, but my mind just doesn't like and trust something about him. I look at both sides. The positive ones for Obama as well as the negative ones. I do not know what to think thats why I wanted you to look and give your interpretation of the charts, you seem to give a fair and balanced reading of the charts.
    Thanks for all you do, you are so appreciated!


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    Charles Krauthammer on Obama's plans. Notice the "Neptune" word?

    "Deception" at Core of Obama Plans

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ky_budget.html


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    Very interesting article housemouse.. Thank you


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    Here is a revealing article from a London newspaper, about Obama being "fatigued" during Brown's visit. This is supposedly and explanation for Obama's shabby treatment of Brown, and his stupidity on choosing a gift for Brown.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...don-Brown.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
    Here is a copy of Obamas birth Certificate, apparently on the Hawaii Birth certificates they list the Birth time.

    http://images.dailykos.com/images/us...ertificate.jpg

    I agree that the link I had provide was negative, however I had read tons of astrologers who were painting Obama in a "perfect" light.
    What I want to know is the truth, ya know. Is he someone we can trust? Does he have the best intrest of America in mind. My heart wants to believe in him, but my mind just doesn't like and trust something about him. I look at both sides. The positive ones for Obama as well as the negative ones. I do not know what to think thats why I wanted you to look and give your interpretation of the charts, you seem to give a fair and balanced reading of the charts.
    Thanks for all you do, you are so appreciated!
    That "certificate of live birth" has been proven a forgery, and I think I read somewhere that the forger has admitted to it. But, I could be wrong.

    Anyway, it doesn't mean anything. At that time, anyone could register a birth in Hawaii, no matter where they were born. Obama's sister was born in Indonesia, and also has a "certificate of live birth" from Hawaii.

    We need the long form, signed by the attending physician or midwife. And, some suspect that the reason Obama will not release any of the college records from the three he attended, aside from low grades, might be that he applied as a "foreign student".

    Who knows? I sure don't.


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    Scroll back a page and take a close look at Obama's chart. Look at the square between his Sun and his Neptune. Then look at his Mars. It is halfway between his Sun and Neptune, and is in hard aspect to both.

    There is so much to say about this aspect pattern. It lends to weakness, deception, lack of incentive to work, a weakened or disturbed sex life, a lack of will power, the undermining of the health, discontent, weak or little vitality, the danger of infection, possibility for scandal, etc..

    So, just watch transits to this particular aspect, and follow the news.


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