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    HM,
    Thank you for the chart. I, for one, think you should not censor your political beliefs or religious beliefs in order to deliver your findings in your chart analysis. EVERYONE who comes here to read this thread initially came because YOU were kind enough to offer us your wisdom and knowledge. For that, I am grateful. If I do not agree with your opinions or anyone else's opinions, I can nicely state what I believe as well without being harsh or asking anyone to change what they see, think or believe. Please continue to offer all that you can to clarify your reasons for why you come to the conclusions that you do from applying keywords to your posts. I appreciate you!

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    And, here is this from the DailyKos...

    I am watching the economic/bailout/fraud problems we have with the Credit Derivative, Interest Derivatives, etc., with growing concern. The Venus/Pluto hard aspects going on right now are linked to the USA chart Venus, and to Obama's Venus, both in Cancer.

    Apparently the banks are in such bad shape that the powers in charge do not want to release the information to us, the general public, for fear of a run on the banks, or crashing the market even further. From what I read there is so much bad stuff out there that the problems can't be solved (like well over 600 Trillion on bad stuff!)

    The powers in charge must think we are stupid, and will be fooled if they do not release the numbers. Whatever happened to the promise of transparency?

    All we are getting is Neptunian obfuscation and fog. I am watching transits to the Pluto/Venus hard aspect in the USA chart, and also the transits to the USA Neptune/Node this month, to see when some of the stresses might be most difficult to handle.

    We need to keep an eye on April 13th. (Wonder what the 15th will bring, what with the Tea Parties and all.) That day, transiting Mars and Mercury will be in hard aspect to each other, and transiting the USA Mars/Neptune/Node hard aspects, while the transiting Sun will be in hard aspect to the USA Mercury/Uranus hard aspect.

    Later in April, Mars will move to be in hard aspect to Pluto, and this will fall right on the USA/Obama Venus. Transiting Mercury will be in hard aspect to the USA Moon on this day as well, and the Sun will have moved to make hard aspects to the USA Mars/Neptune/and Node. Watch for the events around the 27th of April.

    Keep in mind that events are not always exact on the date I look at, because I do not take the Moon's transit into account. Might allow a day or two on either side for news watching.



    Bank Stress Test Results May Be Delayed
    by Richard Lyon


    Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 05:00:55 PM PDT

    There has been intense debate about whether the major banks are or are not insolvent and what to do about them. Many supporters of the administration have urged everyone to wait for the results of the stress tests, assuring us that more shall be revealed.

    Richard Lyon's diary :: ::
    Rueters is now reporting that it is possible that more shall be concealed.

    Stress Tests

    The U.S. Treasury Department is planning to delay the release of any completed bank stress test results until after the first-quarter earnings season to avoid complicating stock market reaction, a source familiar with Treasury's discussions said on Tuesday.

    The Treasury is still talking about how results of the regulatory stress tests on the 19 largest U.S. banks will be released, and may disclose them as summary results that are not institution-specific, the source said.

    There are some things about this report that seem to me to be plausible conclusions. This a trial balloon from Treasury to test the waters to see what they can get by with. The results of the stress tests are not turning to be very possitive for some of the bigger fish in the pond.

    If they thought they were going to have favorable results would they be hemming and hawing like an embarrassed kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar? No they would more likely eager to say look, look the banks are coming along nicely and our plan is working.

    The lack of transparency about the details of the state of the financial system and the details of what has happened to the vast sums of tax money that has been poured into it is the greatest barrier to a sane and rational discussion of policy alternatives. It is looking like the situation isn't going to improve in the near future.



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4...May-Be-Delayed

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    See if you can spot the Neptune in this article. Just for fun.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_sales_p.html

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    White House denies bowing to Saudi King

    found this on Politico... there is a video on the site, so you can watch and decide for yourself whether we are getting the truth or Neptunian fog.

    The White House is denying that the president bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia at a G-20 meeting in London, a scene that drew criticism on the right and praise from some Arab outlets.

    "It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah," said an Obama aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    The Washington Times called the alleged bow a "shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate" and said it violated centuries of American tradition of not deferring to royalty. The Weekly Standard, meanwhile, noted that American protocol apparently rules out bowing, or at least it reportedly did on the occasion of a Clinton "near-bow" to the emperor of Japan.

    Interestingly, a columnist in the Saudi-backed Arabic paper Asharq Alawsat also took the gesture as a bow and appreciated the move.

    "Obama wished to demonstrate his respect and appreciation of the personality of King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz, who has made one of the most important calls in the modern era, namely the call for inter-faith and inter-cultural dialogue to defuse the hatred, conflict and wars," wrote the columnist, Muhammah Diyab.

    The video shows Obama dipping toward the king as G-20 leaders greet one another at the ExCel Centre in London.


    The "bow" comes about 55 seconds in to the video.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi..._to_Saudi.html

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    I post, you decide.


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    The Bad News keeps piling up!

    Report: Pakistan rejects U.S. plan, wants drones

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    Posted: 04/08/09 11:56 AM [ET]

    U.S. envoys met with Pakistani leaders on Tuesday to ensure that the $7.5 billion that President Obama plans to send their way over the next five years will be used to achieve common goals in the fight against extremism.

    But according to a Pakistani newspaper, regional envoy Richard Holbrooke and Joint Chiefs Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen came up empty-handed and received a "rude shock" when a proposal for joint operations against al Qaeda and Taliban forces in the volatile tribal regions was rejected.

    Dawn newspaper reported that Pakistan also asked the U.S. to turn over the unmanned drone missions over the territory to them, saying that the drone strikes were fueling extremism.

    And The Independent published an interview with Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari on Wednesday in which he said Pakistan would go after high-value targets on their own if the U.S. would hand over its drone technology and intelligence.

    link to the whole article;

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/...009-04-08.html

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    OMG you guys, this is too much even for me. It's like watching Fox News. I'm outta here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeymom View Post
    What about the hijacking of an American ship, by pirates, that is happening right now?
    Yes, it totally fits the Saturn/Uranus opposition, with the Moon and Mars transits triggers!

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    Talking Please explain about the cargo ship incident.

    Quote Originally Posted by housemouse View Post
    Another event I think is related to the aspects forming yesterday...

    The hijacking of the cargo ship carrying food supplies to Kenya, Uganda (?)? and other countries in Africa, and the recapture of that ship...

    Think about the keywords, and see how well they fit.
    Housemouse, I can't wait to read what you have to say in this forum, even if I am not able to follow and understand everything. I wish I had your insight and knowledge. Could you please explain what you mean about the keywords and how they fit?

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    Keywords are the primary words associated with the individual planets, signs, and houses in Astrology, which is more like a language than anything else. A language that describes events and our experience.

    Legends have been posted several times in the various threads. Try to go back and find these, for they are good tools for understanding the charts that are posted. You spot the symbols, use the keywords associated, and then understand the event, person, or country whose chart has been posted.


    http://www.skyscript.co.uk/ingresses.html (good keywords for mundane astrology here)

    http://articles.directorym.net/Astrology-a946197.html (these are more general keywords)

    http://www.astrocollege.com/campus/l...Munkasey_X.pdf (a pdf that explains a bit about it all)

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    Quote Originally Posted by housemouse View Post
    See if you can spot the Neptune in this article. Just for fun.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_sales_p.html
    Neptunes in this article.
    That's Obama. It's Bernie Madoff and Bill Clinton --- who in a slightly different life would have been a door-to-door scam artist in small-town Arkansas. It's Robert Preston in The Music Man. It's Mark Twain's con artists in Tom Sawyer, the Duke and the Dauphin. It's all the pitch artists on TV, and all the used car salesmen, desperate to get rid of that lousy old lemon on the lot.
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    Good job, Butterfly1978!

    I relate these phrases to the action of Neptune as well.

    keep the mark hypnotized with talk

    Magic acts are just distraction plus sleight of hand.

    his power fantasies

    respond to symbols and ignore substance

    con act

    ::::SIGH::::

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    This is exactly what I have feared, since back in the primaries. Obama was not forthcoming about many things during the campaign. Those he associated with was enough to send up red flags for me. Now, bowing to the Saudi King. Very scary times we are living in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by housemouse View Post




    The White House has a history of kissing Arabian Royalty, and bowing and holding hands. It is considered proper protocol when greeting them, not that I like it or agree with it.

    housemouse, I was not and am not trying to argue with you or create disharmony.
    I truly regret if posting this offends you.

    As Virtual Truth stated earlier in this thread, you shouldn't have to censor your political and religious beliefs here, and neither should anyone else. I was not taking you to task for your concerns about Islam. I was pointing out that wild misconceptions result from offhanded or naughty (your word) comments.

    Respectfully, I am going to stay out of this thread. I think that will be best.

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    I honestly do not feel that housemouse is saying anything against Islam, Muslims or anything of that sort, I think she is being misunderstood.

    I hope I am not stepping over the line here by saying this, but this is my views about it. I could give to craps if Obama is Christian, Muslim, Buddist or whatever, but at least he could be is honest. He has stood there on live tv and stated Americans are Arrogant, he said this on another countries soil. I also remeber the use of the sentence we clinge to our religion and our guns, awhile back.
    Now I dont know if you guys remeber but the Dixie Chicks got banned for saying something offensive about Bush on foreighn soil, yet its okay for Obama to talk about the county he is president of on foreign soil, like we are all just horrible people.

    Basically what I am saying is its not the politics, or the religion its what he is saying and what he is doing.
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    Hi HouseMouse... i absolutely love your posts and have been faithfully reading them from the Caylee case.. you carry a wealth of information and knowledge...as hard as I have tried to follow just how you do it from day one...i guess that just isnt my forte as I just dont get it... but love your input and interrpretations (sp) I have now followed you over from the Caylee thread and found this marvelous thread of astro and current events. What a nice change from the neverending Casey A cycle and although I may not carry the knowledge that you do..i am one with you and your thoughs. A shout out to you and please keep on posting... there are those of us that wake up in the morning and look forward to seeing what it is you have found out. To all other posters on this thread.. I read each and every post (im sure its starting to get obvious now with my hitting the non stop thanks button)...lol just a quick hello and thankyou .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtual Truth View Post
    HM,
    Thank you for the chart. I, for one, think you should not censor your political beliefs or religious beliefs in order to deliver your findings in your chart analysis. EVERYONE who comes here to read this thread initially came because YOU were kind enough to offer us your wisdom and knowledge. For that, I am grateful. If I do not agree with your opinions or anyone else's opinions, I can nicely state what I believe as well without being harsh or asking anyone to change what they see, think or believe. Please continue to offer all that you can to clarify your reasons for why you come to the conclusions that you do from applying keywords to your posts. I appreciate you!


    ITA. Housemouse, you are wonderful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FifthEssence View Post

    When talking about the energies and influences of the planets and luminaries in Astrology, we have to remember that we as individuals have been gifted the ability to make 'choices' with these energies. How we utilize them.

    When we look at our United States and world affairs in general, we look to the charts of our/those countries and their respective Leaders. You could say we are at the mercy of the 'choices' those Leaders make. Some wise, others not.

    It is the cumulation of the choices made by the individual Leaders of each nation mixed with aspects noted in the charts of their country that reflect on the current and future poliitical affairs and well being of planet Earth.

    thank you

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    I appreciate the kind words, but I am worried. We are living through a very difficult period right now, and people are becoming increasingly polarized in their views and opinions.

    It is impossible to analyze charts and events in a way that will make everyone comfortable. I am seriously thinking that it might not be a good idea to do much more delineation of USA events, because inevitably someone will feel (mistakenly) that I am being political.

    We are not here to debate politics, but to relate events to charts. I am sorry that people do not understand this.

    I am not sure what to do yet, and will rely on FifthEssence to help me see if I can find a way to keep the thread going without conflict. The back and forth about the "bowing", and the photos posted of Bush and the Saudi fellow are an example of what shouldn't happen on the thread.

    I say again, we are not here to debate politics, but to relate events to charts. I am sorry that people do not understand this.

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    We will be closing this Thread.

    Unfortunately, when People ask about events regarding the OUR country and how it's effected by the planetary transitions, inevitably the answers will lead to a political response that can be misinterpreted or misunderstood.

    I trust you understand.

    PRAY for our country and our leaders.

    Thank you.
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