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Thread: Triple Homicide/Attempted Homicide, Roaring Springs, KY - 10/15/08

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    Triple Homicide/Attempted Homicide, Roaring Springs, KY - 10/15/08

    http://www.truecrimereport.com/2008/...d_the_fren.php

    Kristy Frensley was a divorced mom working in a salon and living with her three kids, Kayla, Kortney and Ethan at 169 Military Rd in Roaring Springs, KY. On Wednesday afternoon, something terrible happened. Now Kristy is in serious condition and her children are dead.

    There's been no POI named in this case, but y'all know how it goes -- it's hard to not read between the lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHuff View Post
    http://www.truecrimereport.com/2008/...d_the_fren.php

    Kristy Frensley was a divorced mom working in a salon and living with her three kids, Kayla, Kortney and Ethan at 169 Military Rd in Roaring Springs, KY. On Wednesday afternoon, something terrible happened. Now Kristy is in serious condition and her children are dead.

    There's been no POI named in this case, but y'all know how it goes -- it's hard to not read between the lines.

    Steve
    Not real hard at all to read between the lines..unfortunately.
    You know they're looking at the ex husband and it says that one of the daughters had just returned from living with him....maybe he was ticked because of that and there may have been a money issue..child support, etc.....or he could be just one of those men who lose it when divorce happens. Justice will be served. Hopefully the mother will live and can tell what went down. My prayers to her...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowlover77 View Post
    Not real hard at all to read between the lines..unfortunately.
    You know they're looking at the ex husband and it says that one of the daughters had just returned from living with him....maybe he was ticked because of that and there may have been a money issue..child support, etc.....or he could be just one of those men who lose it when divorce happens. Justice will be served. Hopefully the mother will live and can tell what went down. My prayers to her...
    If the mother lives and can tell what happened, it should just be a matter of time -- if the ex did it.

    For the record, I felt like I was going to lose it when I got divorced. But you know, it dang sure never occurred to me to hurt anyone. I think some men are just barely veiled psychos for most of their lives and all it takes is something that in their minds finally gives them the excuse.

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    Local news tonight for Nashville, stated the mom was in the process of selling the house and moving to Hopkinsville KY for a new job..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straitfan View Post
    Local news tonight for Nashville, stated the mom was in the process of selling the house and moving to Hopkinsville KY for a new job..
    I'd like to know more about that ex, that's for sure. What channel were you watching? WTVF, WSMV, WKRN, or some other?

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    I clicked out of the page I was in, but the oldest daughters dad in Calif had been in contact with the Sheriffs department trying to get confirmation of ID. He had been expecting the worst of course.

    Does anyone know if LE has been able to track down the recent ex husband? He is military right? Is he active?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    I clicked out of the page I was in, but the oldest daughters dad in Calif had been in contact with the Sheriffs department trying to get confirmation of ID. He had been expecting the worst of course.

    Does anyone know if LE has been able to track down the recent ex husband? He is military right? Is he active?
    Is it possible this guy is an attorney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHuff View Post
    I'd like to know more about that ex, that's for sure. What channel were you watching? WTVF, WSMV, WKRN, or some other?
    www.newschannel5.com

    It was on all 3 channels (I'm a channel flipper so don't remember which I heard it on) this link has new video from tonights news, seems they were murdered first prior to the fire, stated 2 victims located in the pool. (ya'll may already have known that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink34 View Post
    Is it possible this guy is an attorney?
    The Calif dad? Or the Maj. dad that might be the POI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straitfan View Post
    www.newschannel5.com

    It was on all 3 channels (I'm a channel flipper so don't remember which I heard it on) this link has new video from tonights news, seems they were murdered first prior to the fire, stated 2 victims located in the pool. (ya'll may already have known that
    In the vid it's stated a presser will be held at 7am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    The Calif dad? Or the Maj. dad that might be the POI?
    The Poi, and the Dad to the youngest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink34 View Post
    The Poi, and the Dad to the youngest.
    He could be. Weird that he's not been mentioned, even in the context of being a grieving father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    He could be. Weird that he's not been mentioned, even in the context of being a grieving father.
    Cant say for sure without confirmation of middle initial, but there is an attorney with the same name in area and same age..

    What do you make of the scenario.. snipped of course:

    Local residents said that two victims were found outside the home - one floating in the pool and one by the woodshed.

    The others were inside the house.

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    Local news on channel 4 stated in one video, reports the mother had recently won a custody battle, also the oldest daughter had recently returned from living away for a year with family..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink34 View Post
    Cant say for sure without confirmation of middle initial, but there is an attorney with the same name in area and same age..

    What do you make of the scenario.. snipped of course:

    Local residents said that two victims were found outside the home - one floating in the pool and one by the woodshed.

    The others were inside the house.
    Rampage. A neighbor said it appeared to be execution style. But to me it appears chaotic. But there are no reports of anyone hearing anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straitfan View Post
    Local news on channel 4 stated in one video, reports the mother had recently won a custody battle, also the oldest daughter had recently returned from living away for a year with family..
    Don't know if this means anything, but Kayla, the oldest, may have had a different father. Kristy's maiden name was Williams, and records show she'd never been married before when she married Jeffery Hugh Frensley on Jan. 1, 1995. Kayla's last name was Williams, and she would have been born in 1991. So she was living with a different man entirely in California, would be my guess, and not Jeff Frensley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    Rampage. A neighbor said it appeared to be execution style. But to me it appears chaotic. But there are no reports of anyone hearing anything.
    I agree, I think execution style may go to COD, rather than "actual".
    House first, then 2 outside. Had it happened the other way around, someone would have run, imo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHuff View Post
    Don't know if this means anything, but Kayla, the oldest, may have had a different father. Kristy's maiden name was Williams, and records show she'd never been married before when she married Jeffery Hugh Frensley on Jan. 1, 1995. Kayla's last name was Williams, and she would have been born in 1991. So she was living with a different man entirely in California, would be my guess, and not Jeff Frensley.
    Yes, Steve, Kayla's actual last name was Williams, and jives with her academic records. The custody dispute was a relocate against Frensley.
    The trigger perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink34 View Post
    Yes, Steve, Kayla's actual last name was Williams, and jives with her academic records. The custody dispute was a relocate against Frensley.
    The trigger perhaps?
    Sadly, yes. If the killer was a controlling, narcissistic sort, it would fit that his response to such an event might trigger such a thing. The burning of the house seems more significant than just hiding evidence, too -- esp. considering that victims were found outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHuff View Post
    Sadly, yes. If the killer was a controlling, narcissistic sort, it would fit that his response to such an event might trigger such a thing. The burning of the house seems more significant than just hiding evidence, too -- esp. considering that victims were found outside.
    Ya know, your right, I had not considered the potential symbolism of burning the house given the circumstances. I'm thinking we need to know:

    1) Where was Mrs. Frensley and in what order was she attacked?
    Does it differ from the children? History is rife with the "leave the Mother alive" to mourn her young as the deepest pain

    2) Could there have been a struggle in the house and the unsub wounded, thus the need to burn as an unplanned event?

    3) What was the reason for Kayla to leave the home for the last year?
    Did she return upon seperation of her Mom and JF?

    4) This takes an act of a seriously disturbed and tortured person. Murdering your own children, imo, is an act of spite or mercy (real or perceived). Which is this?

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    How horrible. Some of the family must have known what was happening because he couldn't kill them all at the same time. I can't begin to imagine the horror they must have felt. I hope the mom survives but in all honesty...if I were in her shoes I wouldn't want to ever wake up to what this lady will have to face if she survives. Losing one child is a nightmare but to lose all three of your children....

    I hope LE figures this all out soon and the monster is put away for life.

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    http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/...0News/1950418/

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    Some military officials parked nearby. The father of at least one of the deceased has military ties and requested their presence, Patterson said. The house is near the northwestern boundary of Fort Campbell.
    Patterson would not say anything about the killings or whether their bodies were inside or outside of the home, although he said they were found in different locations on the property. He also would not say what hospital the injured person had been taken to, citing safety. Several friends and neighbors said Kristy Frensley was in intensive care after undergoing surgery.
    Malcolm Biggs, who had been the family's next-door neighbor for two years before moving one road away, said neighbors told him all four victims' throats had been slit, that one body was outside and that Kristy Frensley was discovered in a swimming pool.

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    The below article indicates that someone (Kristi?) was pulled through a window:

    http://www.theleafchronicle.com/arti...WS01/810170354

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    Nicho McGee said her brother-in-law "Butch" McGee, who lives next door, was at the scene of the fire Wednesday and pulled one of the victims from the house.
    "He said he saw a pink sock kicking at the window," she said. "He said her neck had been cut and her hands had been tied around her back."
    A message left with Nicho McGee for her brother-in-law was not returned.
    Trigg County Sheriff Randy Clark confirmed that one victim was pulled from a window, but could neither confirm nor deny that "Butch" McGee had been on the scene.

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    I live in Hopkinsville and I can tell you that the LE here is being very tight lipped. The story that I'm getting is her current husband was on post all day (Fort Campbell - 101st Airborne) and that has been confirmed.

    Kristi was found outside in the pool with multiple stab wounds. All the children had their throats slit - but one body was found half in / half out & crawl out a window (to escape the fire?).

    It has been reported that Kayla's father is in California and the LE wont even release information to him --- maybe they haven't 'confirmed' that Kayla was one of the victims in the house.

    Again - this is all just what is going around here at work - but 'supposedly' the suspect stole a Directv van to flee --- the van has been recovered -- but the suspect has not.

    Many here are getting upset that LE wont say if we need to be on the look out of this person ---

    Here is the link to our local newspaper.

    http://www.kentuckynewera.com/
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    Oh man, this is just awful. If it was an upset father how could he take out his anger towards his wife onto his own children.

    If the girl who was pulled out of the window had her hands bound then I wonder if all of them did. The two found outside may have tried to make a run for it but with their own hands bound it would be very hard to keep your balance. If there was only one killer he would have had to subdue all of them very quickly. 3 women could overtake one man - especially 3 women who are trying to save their own lives and their family members lives.

    There are just no words to express condolense for Kristi. If I were her I'm not sure I would want to live. Hopefully the desire to make this person pay for what they did along with her families support she will find the strength to overcome.
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