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03-05-2009, 03:39 PM #26
Every once-in-awhile even a blind squirrel finds a nut
Google Map also updated to show the exact location of the car which Tony pinpointed.
03-06-2009, 10:38 AM #27
I'll update the maps later today to show Casey's location on Chickasaw (south of Black Mesa Dr. across from the church) when Tony picked her up.
With this level of detail and a ave. walking speed we can triangulate w/ her cell records again (see posted above) to peer into about when she would've had to start walking and if she had any delays along the way of a direct route.
FWIW...in Tony's statement he recalls that it happened mid-day. The cell records show that the whole scene started @ 2:44PM.
03-06-2009, 06:21 PM #28
Updated Google Map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?sourc...,0.054245&z=14
Updated screenshot of Google Map:
Update street-level view:
Casey's Pontiac was next to the fire hydrant, and she & Tony pulled in front of her on this side of the utility pole, with the gas cans. It doesn't appear there was enough room between the back of the Pontiac and the intersection for Tony to pull in behind her...
..and yes, I noticed what appears to be a car very-like a white Pontiac Sunfire heading north on Anthony Dr.
03-07-2009, 12:30 PM #29
I mostly agree with your conclusion that the body had to be out of the trunk. But to play devil's advocate ... It was kind of a long walk to her parents. The day was warm. And the gas cans heavy. I don't think she had much choice but to call for help.
03-09-2009, 01:47 AM #30
Breaking it down...
Now that we know the exact location of the Pontiac when it ran outta gas, the orientation of the car (direction), and her exact postion when Tony picked her up we can firm things up a bit. Hmmm.
Let's see.... It was 90F when she started walking, 5mph breeze...warmed up to 93F and the breeze dropped off to 1-3mph by the time Tony picked her up Worst case...it would have been a 16 minute walk to the gas station @ Pershing (vs. 29 minute walk to G&C's)...then the walk back with an admittedly heavy gas can. Given her actions, it appears that 'free' gas may have been the over-riding decision-making factor that afternoon. The heat prolly played a role too, but, IMHO, even Casey would've walked the 32-minute roundtrip vs. risking being caught with a body in her trunk . Best Case...Tony even commented to LE about the guy he saw outside near the Pontiac...and, in case you didn't read between the lines, Tony was thinking..."Casey, WTH didn't you ask THAT guy if you could borrow a little gas???!!!??".
Sooooo...why was Casey going to G&C's 6/23 anyway? She'd been going to G&C's almost daily until 6/20. She was there 6/16, 6/17, 6/18, (6/19 PM is unknown due to the 3+hr inactivity on her cell) and then again early PM Fusian-Friday 6/20. She backed into the garage up to 3 times. IMHO, these trips were primarily about dealing with the body and to a lesser extent getting clothes and things she needed.
Until we know with certainty the identity of "Lexus" we can't be sure if the associated calls were related to establishing G or C's whereabouts. However - it is worth noting that even including "Lexus" Casey made NO ATTEMPT to call G&C's in advance of her planned 6/23 visit to establish that the coast was clear. It appears to me that Casey timed her visit with the intent of missing George on 6/23 and 6/24, but, was quite cavalier about it on both dates since she didn't make advance calls. IMHO, this suggests the purpose of 6/23 visit may have been to actually get gas after George left. Monday was her first opportunity to do this with both G&C outta the house. Casey had to know she was running low on gas. IMHO, the absence of calls checking to see if the coast was clear 6/23 at a time when she was already so close to G&C's further supports that Casey wasn't worried about anything more than the stain, and perhaps the developing smell, in the Pontiac. Add to this JWG's earlier observation that Casey pulled into (vs. backed into) the driveway 6/24 before realizing George was still home...the stack of circumstancial evidence supporting the body was disposed pre-6/23 is mounting.
Also, a bit OT, but, FWIW. When we do learn the identity of "Lexus" we may be able to nail the body disposal to 6/19 ~8PM vs. 6/20 owing to only calls to "Lexus" on 6/20 at the time Casey made her G&C visit that day as potential coast-is-clear calls. If “Lexus” has nothing to do with checking on G&C’s whereabouts, then…IMHO, the body was disposed on Suburban 6/19 ~8PM.
Here's how it went down on 6/23, IMHO & based on cell pings, call data, statements, walking & driving distances & times:
1:41PM Casey took an incoming call from Amy while at Tony’s apt. and they talked for just a few seconds.
2:25PM (based on drive time) Casey left Tony's apartment
2:43PM Casey ran outta gas on Anthony Drive.
2:44PM Casey called Tony who was in class, either talked to him for 2.5 minutes and told him she's outta gas, or, she left a 2.5 min (long) vmail to call her ASAP with some description of general area on Chickasaw she would be found. Tony's statement indicated he was at his apartment when she called, which suggests to me Casey left a vmail and he called her when he got to his apartment after class @ 3:02PM.
2:51PM Casey called Jesse, but, did't connect, or aborted the call…perhaps she thought about 'Plan B', but, then decided she'd better wait to hear from Tony.
2:52PM Casey called Amy and chatted away for 11mins. This is likely the conversation Casey relayed to Amy that she ran outta gas and Casey later mis-attributed in her text on 6/27 as having run outta gas "Two weeks in a row".
3:02PM Casey dropped the call with Amy to take the incoming call from Tony and they talked just under 1.5 minutes. Casey prolly attempted to tell Tony how to find her and finally gave up in frustration and said she'd walk to Chickasaw, which would be consistent with Tony's Statement
3:04PM Casey decided she had time to kill (slight pun intended ) and called Amy. They chatted for just under 5mins when Casey grabbed her backpack and started walking. They continued to talk for just under a total of 10mins.
3:19PM Casey took an incoming call from Mark H. which tells us Tony hadn't picked her up yet.
3:25PM Casey terminated the call with Mark H. seeing Tony drive up and onto the grass shoulder on the opposite side of the road.
Tony left @ 3 mins after he finished the call with Casey on his 19min drive.
Casey's walk started just minutes into her call with Amy and gave her 16 mins (@3.4mph ave walking speed) to make the 0.88 mile walk to the pick-up point.
It is important to note that Casey had to have no concern about being seen by George as she walked down Chickasaw. After all, she had allowed plenty of time for him to have gone by and report to work @ 3PM.
And, just 'cause I wanted to eliminate the wild possibility that under-achiever-Casey (1) carried the body to the disposal site, (2) returned to the Pontiac to get the full backpack, and (3) walked to the pick-up point before Tony arrived...well...that would have taken her 67 minutes (@ 3.4mph ave walking speed). To accomplish this her car would've had to have run outta gas @ 2:18PM...making what would have been her high-risk walk down Chickasaw & Suburban with the body at precisely the time George would have been leaving for work. And if one would wanna suggest Casey had the opportunity to drive to the disposal site first, we can eliminate that since we know now that the Pontiac was oriented in the direction of going toward G&C's. OK...I know that was waaay out there...but, I figured I'd go ahead and put it out there 'cause someone was gonna toss it out sooner or later
Last edited by BondJamesBond; 03-09-2009 at 09:57 AM.
03-09-2009, 06:35 AM #31
On page 2 of this released document
it states that "Casey Anthony's cellular telephone records showed 14 calls to Gentiva Health Services at 407-629-7992 and 407-629-7565, inclusively, as follows:
06/24/08 1119 - previously id'd as Lexus dealership
06/24/08 1448 - previously id'd as Lexus dealership
06/25/08 1252 - previously id'd as Lexus dealership
06/25/08 1336 - previously id'd as Lexus dealership
06/25/08 1412 - previously id'd as Lexus dealership
06/25/08 1417 - previously id'd as Lexus dealership
With this clarification that that number is actually a second number at CA's work, it appears the "Lexus dealership" completely goes away on KC's calls.
Hope that helps.
03-09-2009, 08:13 AM #32
Anyway, solid analysis and it gives me the opportunity to press the "thanks" button on your post.
03-09-2009, 08:18 AM #33
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03-09-2009, 08:38 AM #34
I'm really amazed by how many errors there are in these reports. I mean, for Pete's sake, it's not hard to call a number and see who answers, so there should never be such a significant error as this one.
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