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    NC - Jacksonville, WhtFem 319UFNC, 25-40, in woods off Marine Blvd, Dec'95

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/319ufnc.html

    Unidentified White Female


    The victim was discovered on December 6, 1995 in Jacksonville, Onslow County, North Carolina.
    State of remains: Skeletal.
    Estimated Date of Death: Less than 2 years prior to discovery.
    The department has not ruled the death a homicide because there was little evidence. HUH?



    Vital Statistics


    Estimated age: 32 - 38 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Hair may have been brown.
    Dentals: Expensive and extensive dental work. Tooth 19 had a root canal and had been cut for a crown, the crown was missing. She had protruding teeth.
    Clothing: Around her remains, investigators found two New York Transit Authority tokens, two keys with a partially burned key tag, a pair of broken glasses and several coins. The clothing found was a pair of white Nike tennis shoes, size 9; black Lee jeans and a red sweatshirt. Near the body was a thin 18 k gold necklace, two gold bangle bracelets and two gold hoop earrings.


    Case History
    On December 6th, 1995 a surveyor attempting to locate marking stakes located a complete set of skeletal remains in the wooded area adjacent to Courts Plus health club on Marine Boulevard, US Highway 17 in Jacksonville, North Carolina.
    Jacksonville, N.C. is the home of Camp Lejeune Marine Corp Base and Marine Corps Air Station. There are approximately 30,000 United States Marines that reside in and around Jacksonville and Camp Lejeune. Total population is around 70,000.

    This is weird. Does she look a little hispanic?
    What does

    "The department has not ruled the death a homicide because there was little evidence."
    Are they kidding?

    I looked through New York and the closest I came to someone to compare was Evelyn Henriquez
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/967dfny.html

    Evelyn is listed as Hispanic.
    I wonder if the coins are even the victims.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 03:23 PM.

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    NC - Jacksonville WhtFem w/NY Subway Tokens - Dec. 1995

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/319ufnc.html

    How about this one, guys? This lady is from the town near where I grew up.

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    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/anger_linda.html

    Looks like her. Has prominent two front teeth. Probably not her since it seems they suspect that Linda is dead, and they are looking at the ex husband, and Minnesota is kinda far. Any opinions?

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    I came across this missing female, Karen Denise Wells some things match up, some things don't .I figured i'd toss her link up here just incase!


    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2632dfpa.html

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    What about this one?
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fuentes_lucy.html
    I think she resembles the sketch.
    The height is 1" shorter than the low range.
    She wore glasses and earrings. Her earrings in the photo look like wide gold small diameter hoops.
    Jacksonville, NC is a little over half way between NY and FL. If it's her she was there 3 summers, unless she was in Jacksonville, NC for a while before she died. Jacksonville has a large military base. It would be interesting to know if the man she was with had ties to the military.
    I'd love to view Fuentes dentals. How could I do that? This is my first time suggesting, I'm probably in left field, but I want to learn, LOL? Please tell me what you think.
    thanks, Jen
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    Last edited by lotsofdogs2; 04-01-2010 at 02:44 PM. Reason: misspelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamondgirl View Post
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/anger_linda.html

    Looks like her. Has prominent two front teeth. Probably not her since it seems they suspect that Linda is dead, and they are looking at the ex husband, and Minnesota is kinda far. Any opinions?
    Her face is much narrower, and her chin is pointier

    Quote Originally Posted by kaylenbabysims View Post
    I came across this missing female, Karen Denise Wells some things match up, some things don't .I figured i'd toss her link up here just incase!

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2632dfpa.html
    This one looks interesting as a possible. Karen's facial shape is pretty close. Their eyes, nose, mouth and chin are similar proportionally, and she has similar looking teeth. Her face looks too round in the color photo, but looks about right in the B&W straight-on (without glasses) photo.

    However, her blonde hair doesn't match, and there is no indication in "skeletal findings" that the UID had ever given birth.

    The logistics are a problem too. She was last seen in Carlisle PA, and her car was abandoned about 20 miles north of there. That doesn't jibe with a body found over 500 miles to the opposite direction. You would have to get pretty creative to try to come up with a scenario that would fit logistically.

    Quote Originally Posted by lotsofdogs2 View Post
    What about this one?
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fuentes_lucy.html
    I think she resembles the sketch.
    The height is 1" shorter than the low range.
    She wore glasses and earrings. Her earrings in the photo look like wide gold small diameter hoops.
    Jacksonville, NC is a little over half way between NY and FL. If it's her she was there 3 summers, unless she was in Jacksonville, NC for a while before she died. Jacksonville has a large military base. It would be interesting to know if the man she was with had ties to the military.
    I'd love to view Fuentes dentals. How could I do that? This is my first time suggesting, I'm probably in left field, but I want to learn, LOL? Please tell me what you think.
    thanks, Jen
    Lucy doesn't appear to me to be a match.

    The logistics are plausible, and her New York connection corresponds to the subway tokens in the UID's pocket.

    But her teeth don't appear to be abnormally out of alignment, and her face is shaped differently.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 04-01-2010 at 07:39 PM.

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    Here's a woman from NY missing since 1993. Her age and height match and her nose reminds me of the reconstruction. Not sure about the hair and the logistics are a mystery, the little information that there is doesn't give the impression that she planned to travel anywhere. Suppose she could have been abducted, transported and dumped.
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ez_evelyn.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotsofdogs2 View Post
    What about this one?
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fuentes_lucy.html
    I think she resembles the sketch.
    The height is 1" shorter than the low range.
    She wore glasses and earrings. Her earrings in the photo look like wide gold small diameter hoops.
    Jacksonville, NC is a little over half way between NY and FL. If it's her she was there 3 summers, unless she was in Jacksonville, NC for a while before she died. Jacksonville has a large military base. It would be interesting to know if the man she was with had ties to the military.
    I'd love to view Fuentes dentals. How could I do that? This is my first time suggesting, I'm probably in left field, but I want to learn, LOL? Please tell me what you think.
    thanks, Jen

    Does Ms Fuentes's photo look a bit distorted to anybody else? All her features seem to sit a bit crookedly in her face. It reminds me of the photograph in a workplace ID card I used to have which was scanned funny somehow so that my face was flattened and the features a bit twisted.

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    The first face of the 4 at the Doe profile looks Puerto Rican to me. What I find interesting is that they found a hotel key and they tracked down which hotel and room number but:

    No one was registered to the room at the time she would have gone missing, and nothing was recorded as being left in the room at the time.

    unless the room was never rented out, how could LE conclude (without an actual date) that she was not registered there? unless the place is a complete fleabag motel, they would have to have records for each room, who checked in, how the room was paid for etc.

    If they are confident in their time range, (i.e. probably 2 summers before Dec 1995) then ANYONE who rented that room from about Oct 1993 to June 1994 was either the UID, a friend or family of the UID, or the killer of the UID.

    am I reading this wrong?

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    Or the hotel room was being rented on an hourly basis for cash.
    "The opinion prevailed among advanced minds that it was time that belief should be replaced increasingly by knowledge; belief that did not itself rest on knowledge was superstition, and as such had to be opposed." - Albert Einstein


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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleA View Post
    Or the hotel room was being rented on an hourly basis for cash.
    that's a possibility. you'd think for the sake of clarity that the report would have said something like "hotel did not possess detailed records of who rented the room" or "it was impossible to determine who rented the room during the period of time she died".

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    Estimated Date of Death: Less than 2 years prior to discovery. Probably 2 summers.
    Investigators checked hotels in the area before finding the match to the key found with her. No one was registered to the room at the time she would have gone missing, and nothing was recorded as being left in the room at the time.
    Huh? The estimated time of death is so unexact, but for some reason the room was empty all the time that was "probably two summers ago"? Did the motel undergo renovations or something?

    https://identifyus.org/cases/2824
    The only exclusion on the list is Patricia Leventhal

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    This is a possible...

    Many people from CT travel to NYC all the time.
    http://www.lbth.org/ncma/gallery/ncm...hp?A200401208S

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    Huh? The estimated time of death is so unexact, but for some reason the room was empty all the time that was "probably two summers ago"? Did the motel undergo renovations or something?

    https://identifyus.org/cases/2824
    The only exclusion on the list is Patricia Leventhal
    The hotel might well have records that told them when the set of keys went missing. If the keys were missing but nobody was registered to the room, that sounds like somebody stole the keys off the rack.

    I'm not saying this woman was a hooker, but snagging a key off a rack while the clerk is distracted is a fairly common skill for small-town prostitutes to have; if the place is trying to keep a decent reputation for other sorts of customers, they often won't rent by the hour. (Years back, my then-SIL got fired from a motel clerk job for letting a local hooker sneak a key once too often. Turned out the woman was giving the janitor a freebie, and he was grabbing the keys for her, and SIL got the job back...but I digress.)
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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    Did I miss something here? Why are we looking for hispanic women?
    Opinions expressed are strictly my own (who else would they belong to???)

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