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    VA - Nancy Dunning, Ron Kirby, & Ruthanne Lodato, murdered, Alexandria, 2003-2014

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    Okay, this is in my neck of the woods. Nancy was our realtor for awhile and very active in the community. Many locals believe her husband had something to do with it, or at least, knows something. Just thought I'd put this one up here since I didn't see any other threads about her...

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    In all likeliness it's a pro hit so it's about finding out who ordered it. Both mobsters and cops would know who to go to for this sort of "service". Could be that Dunning had his wife killed but it's also possible that organized crime figures were pressuring him with threats to his family and acted on it. These crimes are often impossible to solve

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    just seeing if anything new has come up in this case recently? i grew up in alexandria...was still living there when this happened and i check in on the case every so often on the city's website but there's never any update...any ideas about what happened?
    "and in the night i've been waiting for the real possibility that i may meet you in my dreams if i go to sleep...if i don't fall apart, will my memory stay clear? so you had to go, and i had to remain here..." pearl jam

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    What kind of relationship did the good Sheriff and his wife have before the murder? Were they always together?

    I know this would be no indication of innocence or guilt but I am curious as to their public persona as a couple.

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    I don't remember all the details on this case...but IIRC, I thought that the LE showed Target security footage of someone possibly following Nancy into/out of the store. I'm wondering what ever came of that. Was this person eliminated as a suspect, never identified?? Target and the area it is in is such a populated area, how could anyone not identify or give a more detailed description of this person?
    "and in the night i've been waiting for the real possibility that i may meet you in my dreams if i go to sleep...if i don't fall apart, will my memory stay clear? so you had to go, and i had to remain here..." pearl jam

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    I know someone who called LE about the person in the Target video. They basically were like, "Yeah, yeah, whatever...". There have been no new developments at all, that I'm aware of.
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    Nancy Dunning

    Police absolutely need to focus on her husband...anger management issues, dominating, demands total control...very scary, lots of emotional issues. When his wife's name comes up he goes into "overkill" with his emotions. He was a total drunk at the time she was murdered and everybody knows she was the breadwinner. He is now living the high life in Hilton Head and pretending to be the grieving widower. Somehow the police have to tie him to this. People are probably afraid to talk because of the close friends he still has at the sheriff's department. He has some devient sexual tendencies that I do not need to talk about.

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    nancy dunning

    Do you know her husband?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiltonhead View Post
    Police absolutely need to focus on her husband...anger management issues, dominating, demands total control...very scary, lots of emotional issues. When his wife's name comes up he goes into "overkill" with his emotions. He was a total drunk at the time she was murdered and everybody knows she was the breadwinner. He is now living the high life in Hilton Head and pretending to be the grieving widower. Somehow the police have to tie him to this. People are probably afraid to talk because of the close friends he still has at the sheriff's department. He has some devient sexual tendencies that I do not need to talk about.
    Quote Originally Posted by hiltonhead View Post
    Do you know her husband?
    No, I do not know him but the picture you paint is exactly how he has been described. Our neighbors have known them for 30+ years, raised kids together, used to have dinner at each others' homes, etc. They believe he is somehow connected, but honestly it's something that's very "hush hush" otherwise. No one will talk about it.

    Without even knowing his personality, the circumstances themselves put him at the forefront as far as being involved somehow: she was upposed to be meeting husband/son for lunch but never showed up. When she didn't answer her cell, they headed home to "check on her". Seems a bit of overkill to me. I would've just thought, "Hmmm.... guess she forgot and she has an appt or something." And gone on with my lunch/my day. I never would've thought to go home and check on her, thinking that something suspicious was up. But what better alibi than to be seen AT A RESTAURANT and WITH YOUR SON while your wife is being murdered. Not sure if the husband would have had time to shoot her and then meet the son for lunch w/o raising the son's suspicions, or if he hired someone. No forced entry, nothing stolen, shot from behind as she was headed up the stairs...

    I'm still not sure if he's involved, but he's at the top of my list of suspects.

    With the 7th anniversary of her death approaching, I just wanted to revisit this thread, maybe bump it up...

    ETA: for those of you not familiar with the case, her husband was the SHERIFF.
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    Question Nancy Dunning

    Doesn't anybody think it is really strange that THE SHERRIFF didn't take a lie detector...that he is playing golf daily, NOT doing a damn thing to help find her killer? Somebody has to know something.


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    7th Anniversary... :(

    Just wanted to bump this in Nancy's memory since today is the 7th Anniversary of her murder. The neighborhood lit luminaries and lined the sidewalks with them, as they do every year to honor her memory. It was something she thought of doing just before her death - as a way to let folks know that the neighborhood businesses were open during the holidays. She never got the chance to light them so the community has done it for her since her death.

    I hope they are able to build evidence/prosecute whoever is responsible. I heard more rumors yesterday - just don't know if there's any truth in them because there are alot of theories about "why" and exactly "how", but all roads seem to lead to one person.

    RIP, Nancy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlK View Post
    In all likeliness it's a pro hit so it's about finding out who ordered it. Both mobsters and cops would know who to go to for this sort of "service". Could be that Dunning had his wife killed but it's also possible that organized crime figures were pressuring him with threats to his family and acted on it. These crimes are often impossible to solve
    Hmm...what's the basis for thinking that this was a "pro hit?"
    Why would a "pro" attack her at her home knowing that she was married to a member of law enforcement and might have access to a firearm? Or risk having the LE member either be at home or arrive there? Or, take on a hit that would bring excessive amounts of heat upon themselves?

    IMHO, a "pro" would have done the "hit" away from the home and would have planned it to appear to have been a random act of violence,robbery or sex crime. Or, had he/she done it at the home, they would likely tried to do it at a time where the body would remain undiscovered for longer than a few hours,giving him/her ample time to get away unnoticed.

    This may have been a contract killing, but nothing that I have read about it indicates the work of a "professional."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocytus View Post
    Hmm...what's the basis for thinking that this was a "pro hit?"
    Why would a "pro" attack her at her home knowing that she was married to a member of law enforcement and might have access to a firearm? Or risk having the LE member either be at home or arrive there? Or, take on a hit that would bring excessive amounts of heat upon themselves?

    IMHO, a "pro" would have done the "hit" away from the home and would have planned it to appear to have been a random act of violence,robbery or sex crime. Or, had he/she done it at the home, they would likely tried to do it at a time where the body would remain undiscovered for longer than a few hours,giving him/her ample time to get away unnoticed.

    This may have been a contract killing, but nothing that I have read about it indicates the work of a "professional."
    Interesting topic... I ran into some other neighbors who knew her and her husband well. They said the latest belief is that it was in fact a professional hit... either ordered by her husband or by someone who was trying to get a message to her husband or had something to gain from Nancy's death themselves. It was too clean, no forced entry, absolutely zero evidence in the home. No one has reported any viable tips. So it appears that it could be the work of a professional... which gives me chills...
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    Quote Originally Posted by belimom View Post
    Interesting topic... I ran into some other neighbors who knew her and her husband well. They said the latest belief is that it was in fact a professional hit... either ordered by her husband or by someone who was trying to get a message to her husband or had something to gain from Nancy's death themselves. It was too clean, no forced entry, absolutely zero evidence in the home. No one has reported any viable tips. So it appears that it could be the work of a professional... which gives me chills...
    Hmm...
    You are aware that there's a difference between a "contract killing" and a "professional hit", correct?
    Anybody can arrange a contract killing.All you have to do is pay someone to kill somebody.
    However a truly "professional" hit would require finding someone that kills, if not for a living, then enough to plan and execute what is a fairly complex task.

    There are very few people that do hits on civilians (non-criminals) as the task is very difficult and the police tend to take a dim view of non-combatants being killed. Also the planning involved is beyond the skills of most criminals and discovery means life imprisonment or the death penalty, making it an expensive undertaking for all involved.

    This appears to be either a random act of violence or a contract hit by an amateur or a dilettante, not the work of a professional killer. A "pro" would be highly unlikely to take a "job" that involved killing the relative of a police officer,especially a female relative. The heat to reward ratio would be just too great.

    And the theories that you have poroposed actually contradict one another: If it was "ordered" by the husband, why do it at his home and how did he pay them? If it was to "send a message" to the police chief husband, why kill her? Why not simply shoot up the house or leave a note or card in the bedroom? Equally effective and far less "heat" than the daytime execution of a female LE relative.

    And if someone "gained" something by the woman's death, that fact would be readily apparent in the wake of her demise. From what I managed to gather, no one (other than the husband) seemed to "benefit" from her death.

    To me, this appears to be the work of a "lucky" amateur rather than a seasoned killer. Leaving the body where it can be easily found, killing a relative (especially a female) of an LE member, attacking at an LE member's home in the daytime and not making the "hit" appear to be an attempted robbery/rape "gone wrong" rather than an intentional killing are all signs of someone that rarely kills or did so for minor financial gain.

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    I actually don't have the opinion of either a contract kill or a professional hit - I have no idea what I believe at this point. I have heard so many rumors that I believe her death could be the result of many things.

    When I posted about the professional hit, that is the latest rumor by folks who have lived in the neighborhood for decades and knew both Nancy and Jim for just as long. I'm just the messenger...

    I just hope they find whoever did it because Nancy deserves that much.
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