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11-23-2008, 01:18 PM #2Former Member
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The links worked for me. Maybe Windchime fixed them already?
11-23-2008, 01:19 PM #3
Thanks again WindChime for your prompt response. You're too good!
11-23-2008, 01:20 PM #4
11-23-2008, 01:25 PM #5
should we move the last 5 posts in here so we can keep them going maybe?
11-23-2008, 01:33 PM #6
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11-23-2008, 01:49 PM #7
11-23-2008, 02:30 PM #8
Actually, I already cast a chart & analysis, Deliberation and Decision June 18, for the moves made to conceal the homicide. That would have been in Thread #3.
As a web sleuth, I and others have tried to work from known facts and timed activity, allowing reality knowledge to dictate to astrology. There is another approach open to astrologers. That is to show when the happenings on earth would have coincided with celestial movement that created a very dark picture, one where an acting party commits crime.
In the present chart, the natal ASC of the child Caylee is under attack, not oblique but direct, from Mars, the south node of the Moon, Neptune. The quincunx, 150°, is also known as a death aspect among other meanings, and is active here in the position of Jupiter and of Uranus. The Ruler of the H. of the child is conjunct the Part of Fatality. The acting party is Mars, significator of the First House. Mars co-rules the H. of death. Pluto also rules the H. of death and directly afflicts the Sun, ruler of H. 5. and Venus and (F).
Further, Casey had a progressed New Moon at the degree of the ASC of this horoscope. As is well known, Uranus at this time sat on her Mercury. This 22° of Pisces is the only degree equated to deception in the Samuel Weymss scroll of degree meanings. The Moon here has just visited Casey's Saturn and now opposes Mercury stationing to turn direct in two days. This represents decisions like blowing your hair dry in the bath; shall we say "poor".
I've no idea whether there were significant pings or strange silences from the cell phone at this time. This is not an election chart for murder. It is a deselection chart for doing anything but sleeping the sleep of the just..
11-23-2008, 02:43 PM #9
Tuba I checked the pings -- your chart says the homicide likely occurred on the 17th at 2:36am?? Is that correct? Her phone was 'dead' from 11:16pm the prior evening of the 16th until 10:52am on the 17th. That's ALOT of downtime for chatty cathy. The unusual part is that the last ping on 16th and first ping on 17th are on E. Colonial? Not usual ping spot for AL house? Didn't connect it to any of the other players either -- I could be missing something though. I didn't see any hotels around there....thought maybe she had stayed in a hotel that night. Thanks
11-23-2008, 02:49 PM #10
The chart for this crime is set for 2:34 a.m., see upper left hand corner of the chart. If the crime had occurred on June 16, 2:36 a.m.
11-23-2008, 03:13 PM #11
Do the pings for ALs house hit 3 towers?? One on E Colonial and two near his house?
Or is she with someone else (unknown) on E Colonial for the last ping on 6/16 (11:16pm) and the first ping on 6/17(10:42am). I'm confused. Seems a bit far for pinging there from AL house. I could be wrong -- I'm not a ping expert by any stretch. LOL
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11-23-2008, 03:43 PM #12
I remember East Colonial well but not Sutton. I will have to resort to the maps again.
11-23-2008, 04:38 PM #13
A couple of remarks about the crime chart, in addition to what is beneath the chart and posted as text in #8 above: the conventional part of death is for this horoscope 0:14 Aries, square Pluto within 19'. The part of danger & violence is 28:13 Capricorn, quincunx or inconjunct Venus. The part of police is 0:11 Taurus in H. 1 and conjunct Casey's lunar node, natal and progressed.
On the H. 12 Cusp is Caylee's natal Uranus, square Casey's Saturn in H. 8 conjunct the Moon of this horoscope. H. 12 reveals personal 8th H. matters for a child as it is eight Houses away from theirs, the 5th.
The Moon of this horoscope is at the solstice point of Jupiter here. The day after Thanksgiving, which I have already marked on Casey's calendar, Mars will transit her Saturn (same degree) for two days and stamp the Moon of this chart as a turning point, a change, a reshuffle in matters judicial (Jupiter in H. 10) and homicidal. Theft & fraud, being H. 8 crimes, are also affected. Nor can we forget that Mars had transited Caylee's Sun opposite Neptune from the day the drugging began, I allege.
That is indicated by the number of days since Mars was on her Sun until this event but also by the routine of administering chloroform denoted by Uranus controlling the H. of habits, treatments, routines in the Deliberation & Decision Chart and the day the Sun began its square to Uranus, Friday the 13th.
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11-23-2008, 06:56 PM #14
This is for Beckaroozie and others interested in the Black Moon Lilith (BML).
I have found BML to be prominent by house and aspect in many forensic charts. However, as I will point out further below, BML is a secondary indicator of death, not a primary one.
In forensic horary astrology the way I practice it, key charts include the "Last Seen," (the last time a missing person was seen alive), the "Last Heard," (the last time a missing person was heard from, including texting or making a voice call from cell phone), and the "Police Report," (the time the missing person was reported missing to the police.
Not all charts are available in all cases.
In Caylee's case, we have two "Last Seen" charts, depending on whether you believe George A. really saw his granddaughter on June 16th at 12:50 pm. The other "Last Seen," of course, is the videotape from the Nursing Home on June 15th at 12:03 pm (verified by police computer forensics).
In addition, we have the three telephone calls Cindy A. made to police, the most important of which is the #3 Phone Call to LE, made on 7/15/08 at 9:41pm.
(There is also a possible "Last Heard" chart calculated for the date and time Jesse G. stated he heard Caylee in the background during a phone conversation with Casey, but he later retracted that assertation, stating he couldn't be sure he really heard the child during that specific call.)
The most critical chart in this case, IMO, is Cindy's #3 Phone Call to LE which I have discussed in various posts throughout the Astrology threads.
Here is the biwheel showing Caylee's natal as inner and #3 Phone Call to LE as outer:
In that chart, I ascertained Caylee was dead, through the actions and/or non-actions of her mother. BML sits in prominent position conjunct the Midheaven in the 10th House of what is before the public eye at 7 Sagittarius, squaring Mars the agent of death. If you cast a biwheel with Caylee's natal as inner and #3 Phone Call to LE as outer, you will see event chart BML located in Caylee's natal 4th House -- the grave. There are a few interaspects here, but three are most chilling:
1) Event chart BML squares Caylee's natal Uranus
2) Event chart BML trines Caylee's natal Saturn
3) Event chart BML inconjuncts Caylee's natal Mars
This gives a sense of sudden (Uranus) death (Saturn) and lends credence to the theory of accident. However, the closest interaspect BML makes is the inconjunct (150 degrees) --- a strong death aspect in forensic astrology --- to Caylee's natal Mars, which rules Caylee's 4th House of the Mother (as well as the grave), giving more testimony to violent death/ murder (Mars) caused by the mother (Mars rules Caylee's natal 4th House of the Mother).
In Tuba's possible Homicide of the Child chart posted above, BML sits at 5:18 Sagittarius, conjunct the Moon, in the 8th House of Death. Just those facts alone makes BML prominent and deadly.
BML has been prominent in several charts we have examined regarding this case, but here is what I would like to make clear:
While BML is often prominent in crime charts (Last Seen, Last Heard, Police Report), she can only be considered to be SUPPLEMENTARY TESTIMONY OF DEATH. Her position by House, Sign and Aspects gives SUPPORT to the judgement of Death, but is never the primary indicator.
In the key charts we have examined, Caylee's death has been clearly and repeatedly visible without any analysis of BML.
Last edited by Soulscape; 11-23-2008 at 07:01 PM. Reason: clarification
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