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    LIST investigation leads not revealed as trial nears-NO DISCUSSION

    I think it would be interesting to compile data on what LE might have investigated in regard to the upcoming trial..and not yet revealed through discovery.

    LE is extremely resourceful when it comes to investigations. We all have many questions about certain items we feel they may need to look at. Let's name these, discuss them, and determine evidentary value (if any)

    These are the items I feel they have looked at and either are testing or ruled out:

    1. MOST IMPORTANT..evidence regarding 09/12/08 statements released in discovery
    2. Lee's travel records to Chicago...did he really go there?
    3. video survellience from car wash where she took AL's jeep
    4. Ground sonar at Oveido home
    5. any mileage records on pontiac from oil changes, etc to track mileage to verify she stayed local with Caylee's body
    6. Lee's DNA...results compared to paternity, crime scene, etc...
    7. reconstruction of all bank records, credit card charges from CA, GA & LA
    8. Landfills..they have HAD to of searched grids based on dumpsters for Amscot, apartments, and BOTH Anthony's residences
    9. results of test on pipes/drains at residence where she washed the clothes
    10. Data on any possible drug rings, or escort rings associated with KC to rule this out
    11. attendence records of AL supporting claims he was in school when he stated
    12. was NG actually the counselor for CA?
    13. KC's dna samples at jail..did it show use of drugs? what kind? Chloroform?
    14. video from JCP was she alone?

    whew. Any more?
    What else?
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    Who is NG?
    Caylee, "He will raise you up on eagle's wings, bear you on the breath of dawn, make you to shine like the sun, and hold you in the palm of his hand."

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    Quote Originally Posted by awakewriter View Post
    Who is NG?
    Nicole G..murdered at JB park the first part of June...still haven't ruled out possible link to KC in some sort of way....
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    NG as CA's counselor? What is this? Do you think that Nancy Grace was some sort of counselor to CA? I am confused as to where that comes from. I'd be very interested in hearing more.

    I think Annie D's interview will be very telling. That is the one thing I've been waiting for to be released.

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    Forensic results on any dumpsters tested, if any were.

    GA's employment records. (Hours verified at work.)

    SOMETHING CONCRETE explaining where in the he!! Casey got ZFG's name and info from.

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    Any possible connections between KC and NG or CA and NG.

    Any connections with "Ryan" from the "tattoo shop" (in guestbook at NG's memorial site) and the tattoo place KC frequented.

    Forensic evidence from the back of the cell phone (the battery part) found in the search for evidence in NG murder (and the baseball cap found).

    Forensic evidence from AH's totaled vehicle.

    The missing (destroyed) key from AH's totaled vehicle.

    Cadaver dog search of LA's home and yard.

    Forensic evidence from TonE's place and RM's place.

    Trash pick-up schedule from TonE's place.

    Forensic evidence from everything taken from the Pontiac.

    Forensic evidence on chlorine buckets. Proof of purchase of chlorine and other pool chemicals against actual items present.

    JCP purchases and missing receipts.

    Inventory of Caylee's toys, clothing and belongings cross-referenced to photo's from Photobucket.

    Video images from Amscott and any other places KC was known to frequent or where receipts and other evidence have placed her in the 31 days.

    Testimony from co-workers at Fusion.

    Forensic evidence on ALL of the gas cans (3 or 4 in total I think by now) and whether or not they have all been accounted for (the two GA had the KC stole and what AH took her to Target to buy).

    Forensic evidence taken from hard drive of LA's computer.

    (sorry if these things were already said...I can't remember everything I have read on here!)

    That's about it for right now...
    Can you just give us a simple yes or no, Cindy??

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    one more thing:

    forensic evidence taken from objects found in the cemetary and the follow up investigation done by de detective AB.

    Thank you for your patience
    Can you just give us a simple yes or no, Cindy??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie Treat View Post
    one more thing:

    forensic evidence taken from objects found in the cemetary and the follow up investigation done by de detective AB.

    Thank you for your patience
    Maybe I missed this what did they find in the cemetary????

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    Contents and all info on the letter given to crime lab with 'Lee' on it.

    Transcript of Lee and TonE's conversation when TonE was wearing a wire.

    Transcripts of any other conversations TonE taped, on his own or while wearing a wire.

    Contents of e mails 'hacked' from CA and sent to media.

    Transcripts of interviews from extended family members, ie. GA's parents, siblings, CA's mother, siblings, aunt, ect.

    LE interview with MN, formerly the A's lawyer. (I know he has restrictions but other things he knows outside of client/attorny may be relevant)

    LE interview with LG, formerly associated with the A's.

    Any witness sightings of KC or her white car near the remains site, on June 15th or any time there after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt1997 View Post
    Didn't we get the results from the neighbor's shovel? Or was that only for the hair on the shovel?
    http://www.editgrid.com/user/evi/FBI_Evidence_Tests

    Q29 Swabs from shovel handle (0050 Item #1, Q-22) / Shovel / DNA STR more than one individual

    Q29.1 swab from Q29 /
    Present K3 male Burner Unable to use Include
    Excludes Casey no comparison for Caylee or Burner

    Q30 Swabs from shovel handle (0050 Item #1, Q-22) / Shovel /

    Q30.1 / Unable to use Inclusionary No comparison for Caylee, Casey, Burner

    Q31 Swabs from tip of shovel (0050 Item # 2, Q-23) / Shovel / No detectable DNA or STR

    Q32 Swabs from tip of shovel (0050 Item # 2, Q-23) / Shovel / No detectable DNA or STR



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    Maybe I missed this what did they find in the cemetary????
    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...enwood&page=13

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    Why would Nicole G be KC's counselor? I am still confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txmama View Post
    Why would Nicole G be KC's counselor? I am still confused.
    a possible theory exists that Nicole G,who was a counselor (not academic- the type of counselor she was is shown in her thread) at UCF...and CA receiving advice to boot KC...and other items matching coincidences with her disapperance have led some to believe this may be connected...nothing shows it either ruled out OR ruled in..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valrico Analyzer View Post
    a possible theory exists that Nicole G,who was a counselor (not academic- the type of counselor she was is shown in her thread) at UCF...and CA receiving advice to boot KC...and other items matching coincidences with her disapperance have led some to believe this may be connected...nothing shows it either ruled out OR ruled in..
    http://www.wesh.com/news/18193642/detail.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valrico Analyzer View Post
    a possible theory exists that Nicole G,who was a counselor (not academic- the type of counselor she was is shown in her thread) at UCF...and CA receiving advice to boot KC...and other items matching coincidences with her disapperance have led some to believe this may be connected...nothing shows it either ruled out OR ruled in..
    This may be the program she was attending at UCF. Not sure if NG was involved with this, but this is open to the community free of charge and although there may be other options available there...this is the only program I know of for counseling aside from the program offered to students:

    UCF (University of Central Florida) Community Mental Health clinic.

    "The University Of Central Florida Community Counseling Clinic offers free individual, couple and family counseling sessions. On occasion, we also conduct group-counseling programs. With the exception of short semester breaks, the Community Counseling Clinic (CCC) operates weekdays and evenings throughout the year. Counseling sessions are usually 45-50 minutes in length. Over 1,200 individuals receive services annually!

    Graduate students from the Counselor Education and Clinical Psychology Programs staff the CCC. All sessions are videotaped and monitored by closed circuit TV. A faculty member and/or advanced graduate student learning clinical supervision skills observes the counseling session. Your counselor (a graduate student) receives consultation and suggestions from the supervisor(s) reviewing these tapes."

    http://www.ucfcounselored.org/Clinic.html

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    Did LE investigate any local hotels where casey might of spent the night of june 15th. Still in an area where her cell phone pinged.

    Caseys and TL's text the night of June 15th
    TL interview about phone conversation that night

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    Who was in her car after June 15th.

    Did she use her car to tote around her friends then there was a change in that after June 15th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbar53 View Post
    Who was in her car after June 15th.

    Did she use her car to tote around her friends then there was a change in that after June 15th?
    JB himself stated in court that the only person who had access to/use of the pontiac was CMA. It went from Amscot to the tow yard and was locked up there safely until the A's picked it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbar53 View Post
    Did LE investigate any local hotels where casey might of spent the night of june 15th. Still in an area where her cell phone pinged.

    Caseys and TL's text the night of June 15th
    TL interview about phone conversation that night
    Thats right..that has never been disclosed. Interesting...

    personally, although I don't 'feel" he's involved, I have never been able to rule him completely out either...
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    Testing of debris that was collected. (forensic palynology, soil testing, etc.) Entomological evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txmama View Post
    Why would Nicole G be KC's counselor? I am still confused.
    NG was killed in Blanchard park.She was a counselor at UCF.A ZG-K(the name comes up again) is media coordernator at UCF.
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    OK, I understand that thought now. Thank you for clarifying.

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    The CSI collected from the house.

    Annie D.

    What Casey bought at JCP.

    TonE's other statements.
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    Could the hair be tested for chloroform or any other drugs?
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    The results of the psychological assessment done after Casey's arrest will be interesting.

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    Did KC test positive for drugs or was she tested at first arrest?

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