Shirley P. Interview Only (Cindy's Mother) 7/22/08
Some eyebrow raising comments taken from: http://www.wftv.com/news/18155274/detail.html
1. Cindy told her mother that Caylee was her life and her mother says if not for Caylee, Cindy might have harmed herself.
2. The released documents show Grund also told investigators Cindy wanted Caylee to call her "Mommy" in front of Casey.
3. The documents also show there was no rotting pizza in the trunk of Casey’s car. Cindy Anthony has long claimed a horrible smell that detectives have described as the smell of death, was due to a rotting pizza. But the documents show there was nothing but an empty pizza box in a bag in the trunk. Investigators say when George opened the car trunk at a towing company, with a towing company employee next to him, flies flew out of the trunk. The pair tossed the trash bag that was in the trunk into the dumpster. Later, when investigators went back to it and opened it, they found flies, maggots, and the empty pizza box.
4.The investigation has brought out accusations Casey had been making against those closest to her, namely that her father George has abused her, and that her brother Lee made inappropriate sexual advances toward her once when she was in junior high. The documents show Casey said her mother Cindy did not believe that to be true.
5. Investigators also say the documents indicate that Casey might have been considering coming clean a couple of times. On the day she was indicted for murder she actually called her attorney from the sheriff's headquarters and hinted she might help investigators find Caylee. But once she talked to him she changed her mind. In August, she was about to meet with her father at the jail but once again it appears her attorney talked her out of it.
Shirley P. Interview Only (Cindy's Mother) 7/22/08
I guess what strikes me as "different" from what I knew is that I was not aware that George was rare, if ever, working. I knew about the potential divorce...and the fact that did not transpire...i just didn't know how/why. I assumed they worked their differences out. I didn't realize Cindy carried SO much responsibility in that family. That only reinforces my previous opinion and post of her personality. Ironically, Cindy herself graduated from my hometown in Ohio at the same school my brother attended. I know all of the places they spoke of in Niles, Oh. What I am curious....is why did George give up his career as a State Trooper? His personality traits, from what I've read in all those email exchanges that Cindy's brother and mother describe...just is not one of a cop. He sounds quite troubled, lazy and passive from those email exchanges. That is certainly not a cops personality. Maybe that is why he wasn't a Trooper anymore? Something just not right with him not working and Cindy supporting all. It doesn't fit. Perhaps there is more to this than we are aware.
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From what has been said George worked for the Trumbull County Sheriffs Office and Cindy felt that George should quit. She wanted the perceived lifestyle and money of owning a car dealership. He left the sheriff office and went into business with his father and then for himself. The when and why of the incident with a plate glass window is something that I have not seen any documentation on. I did look on line in at one time in Trumbull County and could find no records for this. It may have not been something that would have been handle on the county level and it may be with a local police department if there was ever any report at all. I did some research into deeds and such and found that there is a judgment against George from the Ohio labor and industry department for repayment of funds. The original filing documents are not on line so I cannot tell if this because George did not pay state unemployment and disability to the state according to their rules or funds that may have been paid out to George improperly. Actually without seeing the original reason for the judgment this may have been a debt that George ended up with due to the way his father may have filed for paperwork while he worked with him.
In George’s FBI interview he did make mention that he had made some bad choices in finances and failed in a business. Somewhere I did see that one of his former co-workers from the Sheriffs office spoke highly of him so I am not sure if the idea that he may have had problems being a cop is correct. I tend to take what is said about George and his past with a very large grain of salt due to the fact that what we have witnessed so far with Cindy shows that she is not above lying. On the lie-o-meter scale Cindy scores up there pretty well.
I did catch in one of Mrs. P’s. e-mails her comment about Cindy not going to Ft. Meyers as planned. [George’s parents live there now]. In Cindy’s statement with LE, I do not remember if it was the one with OCSO or the FBI she said that she was suppose to go to Ft. Meyers to visit with her in-laws but they didn’t go because her father took a spell for the worse and she went and stayed with her mother to be close. Interesting that Mrs. P. did not mention a thing about Alex P. having any trouble or Cindy coming down and staying there. George also mentions that they did not go to Ft. Meyers due to Mr. P.’s health. So did Mrs. P. not tell her sister that Alex was not well or did Cindy not want to see George’s family and told LE and George a lie? If Cindy did in fact tell George that she was going to go and stay with her mother due to her father’s health and Mrs. P. says nothing of this to her sister where did Cindy go.
This is something that I have not seen anything about. This was a trip to Ft. Meyers was to have taken place sometime in the month of June but my memory is little fuzzy so I don’t want to say an exact date. I do apologize that I have not included page and line detail of the transcripts and emails that back up what I just posted. With the holiday I just do not have the time to go through the transcripts right now. Possibly later next week I can see what I can find to give everyone the links to be able to read for themselves.
I thought it was interesting that somebody mentioned in the emails that George's family had mental illness and Casey had it too.
Who knows? Cindy's problems could all be stress related. To me, she sounds pretty reasonable in the begging of those emails, just like she seemed reasonable at the beginning of this discovery... then came all the fighting, the denials and inconsistencies.
I can totally understand how all that would kinda screw with your relationship, having her live there but the mom acting out like that!! All that manipulation slipping in beneath the cracks from both the child and her mom- ugh- I can't imagine- you must love your husband very much!
CA wanted GA to quit being in homecide I read, but I also read that he had to quit or be fired. Since GA was a cop when he was married to another woman. Then he met CA. Did CA and GA have an affair? That caused divorse? or was he already divorced? Did GA have any children with other wife? The other wife's sister had said GA lied all the time and had a violent temper. In any case GA can't keep a job??? Does GA family have mental illness problems? At one time GA was suicidal I read also????
Not only was Dr. Mitchell's article very interesting, post #116 (Holly in Orlando) grabbed my attention "I know first hand if she (Holly in Orlando referring to CA) goes back to work at Gentiva, her staff will walk OUT" I guess that gives some insight into what CA's fellow employee's think of her, hmmm...
This mays sound crazy. But could KC have "Split Personality Disorder".
very rare psychological disorder in which a person has two or more distinct personalities, each with its own thoughts, feelings, and patterns of behavior. The personalities often are direct opposites and dominate at different times, with abrupt transitions triggered by distressful events or memories. Each may be entirely unaware of the other but aware of unexplained gaps in remembered time. In psychiatry the condition is known as dissociative identity disorder. The term “split personality,” denoting schizophrenia, refers to an unrelated disorder in which the split (separation) is between thought and feeling.
Didnt Kiomarie and others state that KC couldnt remember from one day to the next, things she had told them.
Maybe, when she was around Caylee she referred to herself as the Nanny since she had already disassociated herself with being a mother and didnt want to keep Caylee in the beginning. But at Night time she was KC.
Maybe KC is Zanny since she can relate to her so well, and place her places that KC wanted to be, like New York or living in her own apartment at Sawgrass.Maybe the two personalites clashed and thats when Caylees life was taken.
*****MAYBE THIS IS WHY LE RAIDED HER CLOTHES CLOSET , MAYBE SHE WAS DRESSING AS ZANNY DURING THE DAY as her possibly working as a Call Girl******....
If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. ~Mark Twain
Friends of mine and I had a chat about this possibility last week! We dispelled the idea for two reasons:
1. No one has stated that KC suffers from personality changes
2. We didn't see any evidence that she has lost any huge chunks of memory.
Great idea, but I don't think KC has multiple personality disorder. If that were true, the real KC would have been freaked out when she found Caylee missing. She showed none of that emotion. JMO
However, I could be wrong.